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Ehm, guys, sorry to intrude, but I suggest you go back to the game, and check the "notepad", there, you will see her age.

Just one hint, it seems Combine took some of his idea from Japan (I even though he may be Japanese, but I may be wrong), and AFAIK, at least some of the "Sailors" (I discovered there is more than one, I am not especially a fan), are high school students...
Okay, it is early in the morning, seems I´m blind and a little bit dumb at this time...
I don´t see a notepad in her apartment or inventory. Superhero Datapad and Status don´t tell something about her age.
If I remember right, the only one ingame revealed age was Alona, with 32.
I would say Kate is about the same age.
Rachel should be younger than them, but Valor stating, she has several years of experience being a superheroine, she must be at least in her mid twenties.
Sarah might be in her early twenties and Anne is obviously a teen.

And are you talking about Sailor Moon? Didn´t watch the anime or manga myself, even it was famous during my childhood. As far as my little knowledge is correct, there isn´t any similarity to Rachel, besides fighting evil.

Yeah not a fan of some of the stuff from the original game... Scat, urin, gore, that stupid story with the nerd... I hated that the action would slow down for some of the creep stuff...
Well, that "creepy stuff" is what his games were famous for, but I promise, that I won´t make any scat scenes. Urin and gore might happen, if necessary.

I am working as an official translator for this game, since beginning of this month.
And I made some fan art to motivate him.

The other game is pretty casual and not much released for now.
 

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As a basic option of the outfit, there is a see-through layer. Might work for her more revealing outfit, but the layer doesn´t work with her shoes and gloves. Should look better, if I make some colour corrections, but now I have to hurry, not to get late for my regular job....

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As a basic option of the outfit, there is a see-through layer. Might work for her more revealing outfit, but the layer doesn´t work with her shoes and gloves. Should look better, if I make some colour corrections, but now I have to hurry, not to get late for my regular job....

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Why not to stick to damaged outfit for the story consistence. Do you plan any new malicious events for our heroine?
 

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Green Shadow: Alterverse

My name is Rachel,
my father was a multi-time mixed martial arts champion,
my mother was his manager.
She died in an accident, right after him retiring,
he died seeking for revenge.
With nothing left than memories and the skills he taught me,
I became the Green Shadow.
But in this world,
where superheroines and superheroes mostly get paid by big companies,
I mostly work by myself.
Heroes aren´t all good,
villians aren´t pure evil
and to fullfill my dreams, I shouldn´t be neither!

Now ingame
Rachel:
Why did I record this?
Sounded like my memoirs.
Let´s delete it later,
I´ve got some business to attend.

Quest one: A journalists investigation

This is how the game might start.
With this intro there are quite some options - reading between the lines, she admits to do bad/evil/lewd things if necessary.
The record itself my be stolen by a hacker - blackmail option
And looking like that, I would make her a freelancing journalist, so she will be less suspicious investigating.
Maybe the game might include some elements of Selena OHA, but without the timelimit.
Well, that sounds way to ambitious for someone, who doesn´t want to work on it in near future.....
I hate myself :ROFLMAO:

Okay, how do I fight the gangs?
You must fight as Rachel and not as Green Shadow.
 

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Green Shadow: Alterverse

My name is Rachel,
my father was a multi-time mixed martial arts champion,
my mother was his manager.
She died in an accident, right after him retiring,
he died seeking for revenge.
With nothing left than memories and the skills he taught me,
I became the Green Shadow.
But in this world,
where superheroines and superheroes mostly get paid by big companies,
I mostly work by myself.
Heroes aren´t all good,
villians aren´t pure evil
and to fullfill my dreams, I shouldn´t be neither!

Now ingame
Rachel:
Why did I record this?
Sounded like my memoirs.
Let´s delete it later,
I´ve got some business to attend.

Quest one: A journalists investigation

This is how the game might start.
With this intro there are quite some options - reading between the lines, she admits to do bad/evil/lewd things if necessary.
The record itself my be stolen by a hacker - blackmail option
And looking like that, I would make her a freelancing journalist, so she will be less suspicious investigating.
Maybe the game might include some elements of Selena OHA, but without the timelimit.
Well, that sounds way to ambitious for someone, who doesn´t want to work on it in near future.....
I hate myself :ROFLMAO:


You must fight as Rachel and not as Green Shadow.
you know someone is making a remake of that game https://f95zone.to/threads/selena-one-hour-agent-v0-77-serio.5977/
 
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Well, that "creepy stuff" is what his games were famous for, but I promise, that I won´t make any scat scenes. Urin and gore might happen, if necessary.

I am working as an official translator for this game, since beginning of this month.
And I made some fan art to motivate him.

The other game is pretty casual and not much released for now.
I understand combi-action's fame came from the "creep stuff", I just wish it was a bit more optional for some of us that just wanted action packed adult heroine story... other than the hard core scat and gore most of these fetish things are already really well served... I don't even mind if they are in the game files, but at least the new Hellos games starts out with asking if you want to disable them...

If you are going to make a fan made game, a lesbian biker gang would be a nice enemy... along with other gangs... If she ends up in Jail for a few days for walking home naked after defeat it would make for more immersion with female crooks to "keep her company". They could have an underground fight arena and gym as a HQ, and maby a Dyke bar for a R&R side quest for those who want some more on demand vanilla scenes... or even a straight bar for other more vanilla side scenes (on demand not necessarily story related and repeatable)...

I guess my big issue with this game and alot of others is the way rape is handled, I feel that basically every game is really quick to blackmail, peeping, or in the case of combi-action scat and urine... peeping and perving scenes really slow down alot of games... even if the heroine is supposed to be a total ass kicking bad ass, most of the game is slowed to a crawl at every opportunity by the dev, when it could be alot more action packed... and keep the blackmail and maby some of the slower stuff for later in the game as a cherry on top for when the heroine stuffers a string of defeats and is at risk of being unmasked... then close to the bad endings she gets home invaded, forced into a brothel, blackmailed into a relevant immersive corruption. It also kind of matters who is doing the blackmail, a Chad criminal boss or a nerd.

Manila Shaw has this problem too, of not enough action and too much blackmail... and plenty of times the first few action scenes the defeat scenes are tame... you can go several whole updates with buying burgers, being drugged, or meeting for coffee.

I guess I am just venting. Not trying to shit on others preferences, but is seems almost all ass kicking heroine games have similar pacing and either have a lack of balance between rough man handle battle rape and blackmail, or are balanced in the direction of blackmail, drugging, and other creep stuff. Having 90% of the game be action packed test of strength adult action would be a nice change of pace and would probably even set it apart from others in the category.
 

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Green Shadow: Alterverse

My name is Rachel,
my father was a multi-time mixed martial arts champion,
my mother was his manager.
She died in an accident, right after him retiring,
he died seeking for revenge.
With nothing left than memories and the skills he taught me,
I became the Green Shadow.
But in this world,
where superheroines and superheroes mostly get paid by big companies,
I mostly work by myself.
Heroes aren´t all good,
villians aren´t pure evil
and to fullfill my dreams, I shouldn´t be neither!

Now ingame
Rachel:
Why did I record this?
Sounded like my memoirs.
Let´s delete it later,
I´ve got some business to attend.

Quest one: A journalists investigation

This is how the game might start.
With this intro there are quite some options - reading between the lines, she admits to do bad/evil/lewd things if necessary.
The record itself my be stolen by a hacker - blackmail option
And looking like that, I would make her a freelancing journalist, so she will be less suspicious investigating.
Maybe the game might include some elements of Selena OHA, but without the timelimit.
Well, that sounds way to ambitious for someone, who doesn´t want to work on it in near future.....
I hate myself :ROFLMAO:


You must fight as Rachel and not as Green Shadow.
If you are going to start a new GSR project using an RPGM that is compatible with Joi play, would make for an easy Android play through without actually making an Android version...

And please have a gallery from the start in her apartment
 

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The damaged outfit shouldn´t be a regular one. There will be events, where her outfit takes damage, but storywise I would say it shouldn´t be permanent.

And here is something I made during lunchbreak.
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sense your already making the fan art you could take your time make some opening scenes and some of the sandbox scenes like.

-common crooks
- gang members (from several different gangs)
-Gym and mma octagon scenes
- bar scenes
- maby a few Jail scenes

Then when you have enough content and some extra time load them into RPGM and worry about missions and major story board later it could give you a head start for when the game actually launches... we all know that plenty of developers take their sweet time with updates and people tolerate it... the only downside is it makes a patreon or Subscribe star harder to keep happy, but a slow roll out is still better than no roll out at all.
 

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you know someone is making a remake of that game
Yeah, I know about the remake, but I totally dislike the graphic style the developer is using.
But I really liked the idea of the original game. I would use it like this:
Rachel is after a suspect and has to find some clues who this person is. Lets say there are 10 clues in one "mission" and after finding half of them you can choose which person you want to chase/kill or whatever else she has in mind. So it might happen that you choose the wrong suspect and kill an innocent person which might lead to bad reputation, cops hunting you or something else.

I understand combi-action's fame came from the "creep stuff" (...)
I try to answer as short as possible...
I personally like to create some story and build up the sexual things slowly. In the beginning there should be the option to bribe somebody with money or showing some skin, but not fucking each and everything right from the beginning.

You were talking about Manila, one of the things I really dislike about this game - she is 27, a virgin and directly in the first scene she gets fucked... yeah, it is a porn game, but that is bullshit!

About the lesbian bikers, yeah, why not. I have an underground fightclub in my database, so that´s something I could possibly create.

About the blackmail, I am totally with you. Even a heroine without superpowers, like Rachel, should be blackmailed by somebody stronger or smarter, like the criminal boss you mentioned or the hacker I mentioned before. Therefore I made it possible to kill Ben, before the real blackmail starts. And if she is blackmailed by about 20 persons, like Manila, there isn´t anything special anymore about it.

If I start with the game, I will use RPG Maker MZ, but that is another problem, I don´t have much content for the engine.

But as I stated before, it is nice to have some thoughts and discussions about it, but it is not the time for me to work on it.
 
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Yeah, I know about the remake, but I totally dislike the graphic style the developer is using.
But I really liked the idea of the original game. I would use it like this:
Rachel is after a suspect and has to find some clues who this person is. Lets say there are 10 clues in one "mission" and after finding half of them you can choose which person you want to chase/kill or whatever else she has in mind. So it might happen that you choose the wrong suspect and kill an innocent person which might lead to bad reputation, cops hunting you or something else.


I try to answer as short as possible...
I personally like to create some story and build up the sexual things slowly. In the beginning there should be the option to bribe somebody with money or showing some skin, but not fucking each and everything right from the beginning.

You were talking about Manila, one of the things I really dislike about this game - she is 27, a virgin and directly in the first scene she gets fucked... yeah, it is a porn game, but that is bullshit!

About the lesbian bikers, yeah, why not. I have an underground fightclub in my database, so that´s something I could possibly create.

About the blackmail, I am totally with you. Even a heroine without superpowers, like Rachel, should be blackmailed by somebody stronger or smarter, like the criminal boss you mentioned or the hacker I mentioned before. Therefore I made it possible to kill Ben, before the real blackmail starts. And if she is blackmailed by about 20 persons, like Manila, there isn´t anything special anymore about it.

If I start with the game, I will use RPG Maker MZ, but that is another problem, I don´t have much content for the engine.

But as I stated before, it is nice to have some thoughts and discussions about it, but it is not the time for me to work on it.
I guess pacing is in the eye of the beholder... I can definitely understand keeping the start of the game slower for the main story.... but the sand box crooks in the street is another thing... if she gets her ass kicked... she gets her ass kicked... not much slow about losing a fight to crooks that are going to rape her... but a sandbox mechanic is different from a main story mechanic... the sandbox crooks should be easy to beat so if she loses it's because the player is just looking to get to the good stuff outside the main story... if she is defeated as simple Rachel and not as the Green shadow there is no risk of unmasking so no main story consequences... A sand box defeat for "The green shadow" might be a bit harder to not break the story since logically the crooks would rip the mask off.. but if it's night time they might not be able to identify her in the dark on a first loss... it could even be a game mechanic where if "Green shadow" is sand box defeated 3 times for each gang that specific gang home invades her and she gets a sandbox bad end by that specific gang...

Even though I vented about blackmail and corruption... later in the game after the pace picks up a "Green Shadow unmasking" could lead to her getting corrupted and forced to work for one of the gangs or the hacker as she tries to get her freedom back... she is after all a bad ass fighter.

I know you said you have no time though, and I respect that... That's why I suggested building up the fan art library for later use.
 

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Rachel should be younger than them, but Valor stating, she has several years of experience being a superheroine, she must be at least in her mid twenties.

And are you talking about Sailor Moon? Didn´t watch the anime or manga myself, even it was famous during my childhood. As far as my little knowledge is correct, there isn´t any similarity to Rachel, besides fighting evil.
OK, let's cut the chase, and ruin the surprise: at the time of Combine's game, she is 16 years old.

It is in the "superhero datapad", sorry for not having indicated correctly the name, I had to go back in the name to see it.

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She is supposed to have been trained since childhood in combat techniques, and Valor mentions proofing her worth, but also that the new assignment is a step up for her, so much than the other is more critical and sceptic, also for her young age.

Yes, I was thinking about Sailor Moon and the other "Sailors" (I discovered there were more than one). I am also not a fan and never watched it, honestly I only read some erotic parody, and only recently (in my naivete :), I did not know erotic parodies existed for Sailor Moon), but it seems anyway the "Sailors" were in high school age.
That is what I meant in terms of connection/similitude with Rachel.
Not about the way the "fight evil" and stuff like that, from that point of view, I agree that AFAIK they have little or almost nothing in common with Rachel.
 
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It is in the "superhero datapad" (...)
Funny thing, when I use the superhero datapad there isn´t this information showing up. Maybe I deleted it myself, when modding the game, because I thought it won´t fit her (but I can´t really remember that and it isn´t even my style of writing) or someone else put it in later.
Valor says in the intro more than once, that she has several years of experience, did she start with 10?
Well, I will ignore this information, because she isn´t even looking like 16 and there isn´t any logic in her being that young, but thank you.

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Well, next time make a screenshot or tell us about the problem!

You just told us, that you are searching your best friend on a rock festival and he is THE guy, with the black shirt.....

I would guess you will need the XP .
 

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Funny thing, when I use the superhero datapad there isn´t this information showing up. Maybe I deleted it myself, when modding the game, because I thought it won´t fit her (but I can´t really remember that and it isn´t even my style of writing) or someone else put it in later.
Valor says in the intro more than once, that she has several years of experience, did she start with 10?
Well, I will ignore this information, because she isn´t even looking like 16 and there isn´t any logic in her being that young, but thank you.
Well, I can confirm to your that the first time I saw the age information, it was on the original game, before the modding by Lympy and you (and others, I think), so much so, I don't recall having all the information you have.
Also, I suspect you have automatically corrected in your memory some "broken English" in the introduction, to get the variant you preferred, because you disliked the 16 years old version idea - it would not be unusual.
It is not at all Valor that refers to "several years" - the reference is made only once, and in reality is not by him, and it is clearly "broken English" for "since a few (or a couple) of years", if your read everything.
Effectively Valor himself says she is not very experienced, and that he wants to send her because they need to increase the experience of the younger ones, and the other superheroes express doubts that she will be able to do it all by herself, and even call her "little girl".

All that, is very coherent with the 16 years old.

Remember in recent times in the USA they made a series (though I admit I saw only part of one episode myself) about superhero that is supposed to be around 15 at the start (though the took an address that is small, but was 18 or 19 when she started, and 21 when the series finished). And the "Teen Titans" are supeheroes, but are, as the name says, teenagers.
So, a teenager supehero is not something so extraordinary.

That said, nothing impedes you from making a game where she is older, I have an idea about something I was developing, and as I mentioned with someone (since for Rachel, I would use "his" Rachel), that game would be a few years after the Virane situation, with a Rachel in her early 20s.

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Well, I can confirm to your that the first time I saw the age information, it was on the original game, (...)
So someone really edited the "superhero datapad", I am pretty sure, it wasn´t me, but I can totally understand the person, who did it.

I have to admit that I don´t know much about the Teen Titans, I only know that the Raven actress in the series "Titans" was 14 or 15 in the beginnning, but she is looking much younger than Rachel (funny, Raven is Rachel Roth).

The only heroine, if you can call her one, I know, that started really early is Hit-Girl from the Kick-Ass movie. She might be the only one to be 16 after several years of experience.

As a result of our conversation I would say, that Combin Ation had a pretty non-logic idea about a mature looking teen heroine, which noone uf us seems to share and I am pretty happy about any adult Rachel that will show up anywhere, wheter it is a game or just fan art.
 

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I have to admit that I don´t know much about the Teen Titans, I only know that the Raven actress in the series "Titans" was 14 or 15 in the beginnning, but she is looking much younger than Rachel (funny, Raven is Rachel Roth).

The only heroine, if you can call her one, I know, that started really early is Hit-Girl from the Kick-Ass movie. She might be the only one to be 16 after several years of experience.

As a result of our conversation I would say, that Combin Ation had a pretty non-logic idea about a mature looking teen heroine, which noone uf us seems to share and I am pretty happy about any adult Rachel that will show up anywhere, wheter it is a game or just fan art.
I am not a specially big fan of superheroes, though enjoyed most of the movies of the first cycle of the "MCU", as well as the Aquaman movie., I just know about some characters that they are originally meant to be teenagers.

About Combin's logic, well, I did meet 16 years old that very physically "well developed", and honestly, when I had the possibility I did not take it because I was older and considered it wrong for me despite being legal, but in most countries 16yo (or even younger) is age of consent, and there are plenty of 16yo which have already "experience".

There was also a famous case of a USA porn actress, that after was discovered had falsified her documents to be able to start doing porn at age 16. When they tried to bring the people making the movies to court because they should have checked better (it was really her that had falsified the documents, not them), it came out she had fooled even the public authorities on giving her ID documents, so they had to drop the case.

I admit that I had originally found Rachel's physical development (boobs, to be clear) too developed for most 16 years old, but if one thinks well, she was supposed to be 160cm tall in that game, so in reality even the boobs were not that huge.
Plus, "too developed", is thinking about an adult woman with a certain size, if instead the young full adult, let's say e.g. 20, has big boobs, then even the 16 years old will probably have boobs much bigger than other girls her age.

Though I also remember reading many years ago that a lot of Japanese "hentai" (I think is the name, not sure) with sexual contents have female characters that are in high school, though not at the start of adolescence, because in theory the age of consent is higher than 16 there, but appparently many girls start having sexual experiences while still in school.

Anyway, just make her the age you want for your game, in my idea I follow Combin's canon, but since is set few years after, Rachel is anyway older, although still young (though in my idea, Rachel will not be the only character, and the others, will not come from Combin's games).

I am looking forward to play your game, I am sure it will come out much earlier than mine !
 
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