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Been a while since i played this so started from scratch and wanted to do the character creation again.
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Bro wtf is this :KEK: Maybe we should have a limit but this is just funny.
Grandpa is going on a adventure
 
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khumak

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The only thing I have left to try is push it. Other than that, getting 6 Fear on a 100+ willpower paragon you cannot have sex with sounds iffy at best.

EDIT: Oh wait, it's actually only 80 willpower. This is an older save since I lost my newer save on that account but the main difference is only respect (50 there) and melee combat stats (150 there).

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Ayden has a herculean frame which has higher strength caps than smaller frames. Build a fully upgraded dojo, hire a trainer, and push it and he'll train up past 180 just like Einar, Truls, and Cassius. I always hire a trainer and push it even on day 1 because it improves your chance of success. It does mean you take a little health damage sometimes but that's fine. Also if you took disciplined it seems to improve your chances up to whatever the cap is. It's effect does not seem to be limited to 90 like the description says. It doesn't change the cap so you can get just as high without it but you'll either need more training sessions to do it or you'll have to use F5 to reroll a bunch of times.
 
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khumak

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I disagree. To realize that, please go into your html file and temporarily change in combat 153 (Wrool Beta) the dex value of the Wrool Beta to 300 (if you do not have the sureshot implant, if you do have it, please change the dex value to 350)¹ - the dex value is stored in $enemy1_dex. And then use your current melee heavy crew with greatswords etc. and try to take the lone wrool cat kitty down in melee combat. If melee combat is overpowered, then it should not be any problem at all, to kill the cute kitty. Please be ready to switch to some ranged weapons, after the mc/pc crew were unable to hit the cute kitty in a few thousand combat rounds.

If melee was overpowered (in comparison to ranged), the above should not be possible (changing just one value of the enemy definition itself to make it more or less immune to melee attacks), only changing the combat value itself should be able to do just that (but that would mean that the melee/ranged combat would be "rebalanced").

It is just that with the current enemy defintions (combat values of enemies in combat), melee combat is usually the better option (in comparison to ranged), as the stats/skills of enemies do not lower the hit chance in ranged comat (enemy definition does not matter), while the stats/skills of enemy do matter for the melee hit chance.
No need to mess with the html file. There are already a small number of enemies in the game with very high dex like the ninja in the final Black Scorpions fight. He's extremely hard to hit even with 150 melee skill so ranged is always better against him. But there are very few enemies like that. So yes in those small number of cases ranged is always better. I'll have to try the grenade launcher again, maybe it's been buffed since the last time I tried it. It used to be clearly inferior to both melee and a plasma except maybe against groups of enemies without any armor. How many times do you run into any enemies like that which are actual threats? I care how weapons perform against enemies in Duraplate or Hulk armor.
 

Gehoji

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ps. And no especially against high armored enemies (with soak values above 30) the plasma rifle is inferior to the grenade launcher, even if there are no enemies adjacent to the target (or the adjacent enemies are in another combat position), but in these cases the plasma rifle is also inferior to the coilgun.
Unless the coilgun's AP does more damage than 20% of the armor's soak, it is not better than the plasma gun.
 

S_A_D

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None of those look like pc traits. I could fish around and find the trait names but before I do, how far are you and do you mind restarting?
I don't think I want to restart at this stage. Does this method require me to restart the game?


Anyway, is Aria's quest incomplete? I have done her quest, it disappeared. Tried to raise her affection to Soulmate, then release her but I couldn't find her again nor it triggered any new quest.

And how do I counter the effect of a Malevolent character lowering happiness of everyone in my house?
 
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Gehoji

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I don't think I want to restart at this stage. Does this method require me to restart the game?
I'll fish around for the trait ids then, but you can easily edit the html file to give you however many points you want at the start.

...Literally two seconds in, I found them. They are all called mctraitx, where x is the trait name. Try using mctrait instead of trait in your search, then you need to put them to 100 to have them added.
 
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Anyway, is Aria's quest incomplete? I have done her quest, it disappeared. Tried to raise her affection to Soulmate, then release her but I couldn't find her again nor it triggered any new quest.

And how do I counter the effect of a Malevolent character lowering happiness of everyone in my house?
Aria's quest is not yet complete. It will be somewhat completed next update. You need to get your Aria back. I have no idea how though. Maybe changing her state variable to 1 and making sure the house slot she was in previously is clear/no girl is currently in it. Save before you try. I have not used it so I do not know if it works.

Your house has its own stats in the manage economy option. The contentment stat keeps your household happiness up very effectively provided you can keep it up.

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Been a while since i played this so started from scratch and wanted to do the character creation again.
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Bro wtf is this :KEK: Maybe we should i limit but this is just funny.
Grandpa is going on a adventure
I was recently considering to start a game with that age, for the simple reason that he has a good stats as result of his age. But after a quick look at the code I realized that it comes with a lot of penalities and decided to go to the other extreme with 18 years old mc instead.
 

Gehoji

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This guy... If you are going to say you tested things, then include the testing data. Not that he can see this, since I assume I'm the one being blocked. Is what he is doing against the rules? It feels like it should be.
 
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Gunner Rey

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Melee is definitely stronger than ranged at this point with the possible exception of if you're willing to buy cyber cannon ammo, but I believe the supply is not unlimited for that and cost would be a huge concern. Ammo pack does not work on those.

There's a few issues I think surrounding what works in combat. First, ranged does not have anything like strength that allows damage to scale with stats. A follower with a Herculean frame can be trained to more than 180 strength (I'm not sure what the cap is for them yet but I've trained Cassius from less than 130 to more than 180 already in my current game.)

Related to the above, strength directly contributes to health on a 1 for 2 basis so someone with a herculean frame has a higher max possible health than for instance someone with a normal frame. So as you train strength on a melee fighter both their damage and their health goes up. As you train whatever you want on a ranged fighter their damage is unaffected no matter how high you train their stats.
Showing remarkable synchronicity, Grimdark seems to have realized he 's made Melee somewhat overpowered (I think your analysis was quite correct at the time you wrote it) and posted this today on the Discord:


Grimdark on Discord said:
**Natural marksman**

To compensate the growing power of melee combat, the *ranged combat* skill now scales exactly like *STR damage bonus* - a master sniper's aim should be a little more precise than a novice's.

This scaling begins at Ranged combat 50+ and is endless, as seen in the screenshots.

A ranged skill of 120 should provide around 7 extra damage.
 
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Showing remarkable synchronicity, Grimdark seems to have realized he 's made Melee somewhat overpowered (I think your analysis was quite correct at the time you wrote it) and posted this today on the Discord:
Grimdark should review his whole combat code. I had done it in march (post is no longer available) and I will not do it again (unless I see substantial differences to the combat code in v8.23 and v8.3). He should also review the enemy definitions (ie. dex values and armors worn by the enemies, ie. there is about never a combat weave worn). The probabilty, that the damage boost to ranged (depending on ranged skill) will really change anything, will be lower than the chance of an (uncrippled) npc (in a party where the mc/pc has the master tactican trait) with 151 melee skill (and 90 affinity) to miss any enemy (even a Master Gai or the Ninja of the Black Scorpion fights - btw these are the only enemies with 160 dex, all other dex values - outside of the Arena - are considerably lower) with a normal attack of a power katana, eventhough in the fourth follower slot the melee skill could be reduced to 141.
 

Virulenz

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Hmm, i just checked the wiki to see what i missed and yay, nothing so far, except for
Since it doesnt have an wiki page, who is this and where do i run into her...if its a her, the name suggests otherwise so maybe i killed it already ^^
 

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Hmm, i just checked the wiki to see what i missed and yay, nothing so far, except for
Since it doesnt have an wiki page, who is this and where do i run into her...if its a her, the name suggests otherwise so maybe i killed it already ^^
3. Akira Ito - Someone mentioned it before, but she is encountered in the final group of Rogue Space Marines in Kacey's Park with the Space Hulk, is a tough fight, so prepare well
 
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Virulenz

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Okay, looks like i killed her...if one of the console wizards here knows how to unkill her or reset the group i would appreciate it ^^
 

afkoyou

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I finished the second prowler quest but I still can't get Miss Winton as a slave. The wiki says I should be able to bang her but no option is there. Is there any way I can fix this? The debug option didn't change anything.
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Virulenz

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Go home.
You can only fuck her once per day and only if you didnt take the money but the "other payment" for finding her brother.
After you found him she will need a day alone. Then you can daily fuck her until the day you can buy her...

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You dont need to fulfill her fantasy/request by bringing another dick along, but the images still show it -,-
 

Clemency

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I finished the second prowler quest but I still can't get Miss Winton as a slave. The wiki says I should be able to bang her but no option is there. Is there any way I can fix this? The debug option didn't change anything.
If you did not pick the other payment option, you have to reload an earlier save before you made that decision.
 
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