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- Jul 26, 2018
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The Mayans need you to update their calendar, my friend!
- Oct 25, 2017
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LoL Really the update was at 90%? if 10% is taking 1 month now I understand that 90% has taken 7 months or more
I wasn't quite correct in March.
I guess there will be an update in late
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Oh, he's not bad at either of those things. What ICSTOR is bad at is hiding his intentions to bleed his patreons for as long as possible. Most of us could do a better job managing the various patreon games we see because they are poorly managed on purpose. Just look at Seeds of Chaos, that shit pipe of a Patreon team regularly releases updates and don't even bother to explain new content. It'll be "new scene with X characters" and they'll conveniently leave out the fact that there is no new scene, it's just a few boxes of text on a blank background so that the patreon supporters can "vote" on what comes next. Which is to say they put out half finished updates on purpose. Or Summertime Saga who releases ten minutes of content twice a year, while actively stringing along supporters with streams that show content far beyond where the next update will be. It's all about maintaining an illusion of hard work and an air of amateur game developer so as to keep people from realizing that they're being scammed. The team behind Lust Epidemic is pretty much the only one I can think of that releases updates at a quick rate, rarely varies on amount of content and moves towards completion at a steady rate. ICSTOR could manage Milfy City better without any effort at all, he just chooses not to.
- Dec 26, 2018
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I need help. I formatted my pc and lost the save game. Can you please share me the latest? So I could catch up with the latest version.
- Apr 26, 2017
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So send us the link for any game you manage on patreon. Show us your management skills that put Venus Noire, Icstor and all the other dev teams around here to shame.
- Jun 13, 2018
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ICSTOR has released 7 games in the past 4 years, but apparently he's "milking" patrons. JFC.
As far as I know, most of them were made in RPGM, so it doesn't count.
- Sep 17, 2017
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Really bad comeback that always comes up. You don't have to be a game dev to see these things or comment on or about them.
Ah yes the "You have to do something to have a valid opinion on it." argument. We have dismissed that claim.
- May 11, 2018
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Lust Epidemic releases twice a month, while the average for Milfy City seems to be around twice a year (if we're lucky). And while MC releases have more content, it has nowhere near twelve time the content of LE.
- May 24, 2018
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I'm just putting everyone going "ICSTOR is a scammer" on my ignore list and it's made my forum experience much much better.
LE is nowhere near the quality of MC though. I’ve played both. The renders and animations in MC are amazing. LE has maybe one or two good animations depending on the update and the updates are at a 3% increase each time. You have to wait months for any real progress to be made. LE animations they’re not that long either. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. Comparing a B+ grade RPGM to an S tier RENPY game.
- Apr 26, 2017
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When you claim you can do better than all of them? Yes you need to show. Otherwise you are just another armchair dev.
- May 11, 2018
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I disagree with you, personally I feel the quality of LE to be on par with MC. Both are excellent games, some of the best at the moment. And on a personal level, the fact the I'm willing to put up with RPGM (despite how much I hate it) says a lot about LE. And while I agree that the updates are short 3% each time, in the time that MC has been taking to release this update (which is yet to be released) there has been 20 LE updates for a total of 60%.
Also when MC came out it was on a class of it's own, put all other games to shame. However this not the case anymore, there are now a few games have risen up (and maybe even surpassed) the bar MC set, such as being a dik, city of broken dreamer or becoming a rockstar come to mind.
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- Sep 17, 2017
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Yeah everyone here should become a game dev just to prove a point that everyone can already blatantly see? It should be obvious to anyone icstor 2 years ago > icstor now.When you claim you can do better than all of them? Yes you need to show. Otherwise you are just another armchair dev.
- Jul 25, 2017
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i hate this comments, it affects me so much, now i dont care about Caroline too.. I'm serious
- Nov 11, 2017
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Patrons willingly support a Dev using the Patreon or similar Subscribestar model because they feel the group is doing something worthwhile (whatever that means to them): if they eventually don't feel that way, perhaps due to the Dev's actions or just a change of heart/circumstance, then it's up to them to decide if their patronage is warranted.
Anyone can feel taken advantage of if they choose, but in ICSTOR's case there's plenty of people who apparently still perceive the situation differently than you. That includes ICSTOR, and all of his project management methods you've claimed he could implement but won't out of some well-managed subterfuge. That is, he's managing *something* really well: fooling all his Patrons! That would actually take some work, oddly enough.
In the end, you'll just need to deal with the reality that not everyone sees things that way and for good reasons to them (including belief in what ICSTOR does offer his patrons, from status updates to previews, etc.)