Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[Evangelion-01]

It's been a very long time since a decent update dropped, perhaps we'll see one this year perhaps not, ICSTOR isn't exactly being consistent with this game, long story short he did a good job with the early updates, burnt out a bit took a break and did another couple updates at a slower pace including a Christmas special, then he went on break and has done very little since, he even hired another guy to do the renders for this game and decided to move on to a new project. Is the current content good?, yes, it's pretty damn good, will we see the game finished? hard to tell, i wouldn't hold my breathe for it any time soon.

If we do see it done it will take a few updates to do well, probably three updates minimum(of a comparable size to earlier updates) to see the game finish in a satisfactory manner and more than that to see it done to the level of quality that we'd hope for, however ICSTOR has been very flaky with this game for a while, he doesn't have the attention span to dev the same game for more than two years and i understand that, it sucks for the player though. If your willing to treat the game as onhold or abandoned to ovoid disappointment then play away, it's pretty good, if your wanting to follow the game on a per update basis like you would for CoBD then it may be best to skip this, just my opinion or wait and see if it gets finished, ICSTOR hasn't left a game unfinished before though he has rushed one or two, so we'll see what happens.

Gues everyone has different opinions and tastes... personally I can only agree with your neutral statements.
The Latest Update can't hold a candle to the first 4 (both amount and quality of content considered) and took approximately the same amount of time... the next one not even considered.
And ICStor missuses the term of "Burnout" quiet alot so atleast don't do the same.
Also at this point he rushed more games to an "ending" than he actually finished them as intended.
He put actual finishes to his games when he was fresh in the business but after he made a name for himself he switched to unfinished games calling them completed.

 

[Xandoren]

Great job loved this game!

 

[Volta]

Gues everyone has different opinions and tastes... personally I can only agree with your neutral statements.
The Latest Update can't hold a candle to the first 4 (both amount and quality of content considered) and took approximately the same amount of time... the next one not even considered.
And ICStor missuses the term of "Burnout" quiet alot so atleast don't do the same.
Also at this point he rushed more games to an "ending" than he actually finished them as intended.
He put actual finishes to his games when he was fresh in the business but after he made a name for himself he switched to unfinished games calling them completed.

I get where you are coming from, especially with the burnout thing, he often equates boredom with burnout. Yes he does rush stuff, though to be honest i don't follow him closely enough to be able to speak for the earlier games too much, in fairness i only started to consider his stuff worth playing when Milf City came out, before that it was uninspired RPGM fare that i simply detest, if your using RPGM for something other than an RPG then what are you thinking?

I do have to say though you called it right on me being neutral mostly, the game had a good start and has some good content, it's just a real let down that it's had so many issues, not just the delays and that stuff but things like letting the patrons pick the next girls for development, it's no wonder that Judy and others who seemed to have a role to play with the story of the main three got skipped over in favour of alternating between Caro and the Mom.

 

[Kanzen]

So I'm gettting ready to play this, is it worth it? I'm getting the impression that it's been a long time since an update?

Its a pretty good game but be warned that the dev decided to go from updates every 3-4 months to yearly updates. So come back here once a year around nov or dec

 

[1Il1Il1Il1il]

Is available italian translation for Mac users?

 

[Letstryitout]

Soo, a year-long update with 3 hours of content or something? Hopefully, we have more content compared to previous updates.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Soo, a year-long update with 3 hours of content or something? Hopefully, we have more content compared to previous updates.

unlikely... I would expect an Update of the scale of 0.6... took as long and ICStor was actually "more motivated" than now... but this time Baron did some of his work so maybe we can expect a similiar Update

 

[Kil]

I did my usual check-in to this thread, by going to the last page and check what's new (most likely nothing but still).
I was surprised to read hopeful comments, happy people who liked the game so far and wanted to see what comes next. I cracked my fingers and got ready to disappoint them and realized....I had mis-clicked and was reading the 2nd page of the thread xD

Have a nice day!

 

[John E. Ringo]

Take it all.

That's what I tell Sara every night.

 

[Evangelion-01]

That's what I tell Sara every night.

your neighbors muust have called the cops on you regulary than, given her screamer (from pain) personality

 

[lostraven]

The real update was the friends we made along the way

 

[SuddenReal]

The real update was the friends we made along the way

Another reason why I was disappointed with it.

 

[Connel]

I agree with you but the guy said that people criticizing Icstor probably have a mental illness. His post is still there.

I didn't point anyone, but it's ok if you feel aluded, you may have your reasons. Things started earlier when I defended the dev and I got people here saying I'm stupid, idiot or even the dev. I was pointing them.
Everyone is free to have an opinion, and to write it. EVeryone is free to release their frustration or hate here, generating more hate. I've been in many forums for more than 20 years and yeah, there are many forums full of this kind of people who does not contribute anything good. I have my opinioin too, but I usually point the facts.
Facts:
- This game is one of the best technically out there. Awesome models, and awesome animations. Story/plot, same as 50% of them all: guy in the city fucking everything moving
- People like this game (patreon numbers don't lie)
- I don't know the dev, I'm quite new here, I played my first adult visual novel a few months ago (a nice discovery, I must admit)
- The way patreon works (and other platforms, I said this in another thread) is not very compatible with this kind of content. Why would a dev want to finish a game? To lose patreon supporters? I mean, would you still supporting a game you know it will have no more updates?

Having said all that, I think it's not wise keep complaining about a dev who said this or that, who hasn't updated for a year or for a month. If you're paying him, stop paying, otherwise you're part of the problem. And of course if you're not paying (like me) stop complaining, it's useless and only brings frustration to people trying to read something interesting about the game.
Anyway, when some of you say I'm the dev of this game, I think you are not very smart, or you are writting the first thing coming to your mind, or your frustration for not having more updates is REALLY sick. There are tons of porn content in the internet to fap away, and if you really like the game, then why do you charge on the dev? Because you hope he will read this and work harder so you can fap sooner? I'm sorry but I just can't believe this shit. I think they have a discord channel for supporters anyway so they can puke all their bile there. What is clear to me is a dev would never come here (with a different nick) to try to convince you of anything. Even a dev with a lot of free time. And if you really think I'm the dev, you could find more posts I wrote, i have written very few, one of them is my list of favourite games in order and guess what? Milfy city is not the first one.

 

[Aristos]

I didn't point anyone, but it's ok if you feel aluded, you may have your reasons. Things started earlier when I defended the dev and I got people here saying I'm stupid, idiot or even the dev.
Everyone is free to have an opinion, and to write it. EVeryone is free to release their frustration or hate here, generating more hate. I've been in many forums for more than 20 years and yeah, there are many forums full of this kind of people who does not contribute anything good. I have my opinioin too, but I usually point the facts.
Facts:
- This game is one of the best technically out there. Awesome models, and awesome animations. Story/plot, same as 50% of them all: guy in the city fucking everything moving
- People like this game (patreon numbers don't lie)
- I don't know the dev, I'm quite new here, I played my first adult visual novel a few months ago (a nice discovery, I must admit)
- The way patreon works (and other platforms, I said this in another thread) is not very compatible with this kind of content. Why would a dev want to finish a game? To lose patreon supporters? I mean, would you still supporting a game you know it will have no more updates?

Having said all that, I think it's not wise keep complaining about a dev who said this or that, who hasn't updated for a year or for a month. If you're paying him, stop paying, otherwise you're part of the problem. And of course if you're not paying (like me) stop complaining, it's useless and only brings frustration to people trying to read something interesting about the game.
Anyway, when some of you say I'm the dev of this game, I think you are not very smart, or you are writting the first thing coming to your mind, or your frustration for not having more updates is REALLY sick. There are tons of porn content in the internet to fap away, and if you really like the game, then why do you charge on the dev? Because you hope he will read this and work harder so you can fap sooner? I'm sorry but I just can't believe this shit. I think they have a discord channel for supporters anyway so they can puke all their bile there. What is clear to me is a dev would never come here (with a different nick) to try to convince you of anything. Even a dev with a lot of free time. And if you really think I'm the dev, you could find more posts I wrote, i have written very few, one of them is my list of favourite games in order and guess what? Milfy city is not the first one.

Your message is too long, honestly I didn't read the whole thing.
The truth is someone called you and idiot and his message was deleted. You said other people had mental problems and your message is still there. Maybe you were both right: people criticizing Icstor have mental problems and you are indeed an idiot.
Maybe you were both wrong: no one has mental problems and you are not an idiot.
But there should be equal rights for everyone: either insulting is allowed or it's not.

BTW, the game is crap compared to more recent titles. Icstor rested on his laurels and the latest update, released over 1 year ago, was shit compared to the previous ones. Update your game list, you'll be surprised by the quality many devs have been putting out consistently while Icstor decided to become a lazy conman.

 

[Connel]

Your message is too long, honestly I didn't read the whole thing.
The truth is someone called you and idiot and his message was deleted. You said other people had mental problems and your message is still there. Maybe you were both right: people criticizing Icstor have mental problems and you are indeed an idiot.
Maybe you were both wrong: no one has mental problems and you are not an idiot.
But there should be equal rights for everyone: either insulting is allowed or it's not.

BTW, the game is crap compared to more recent titles. Icstor rested on his laurels and the latest update, released over 1 year ago, was shit compared to the previous ones. Update your game list, you'll be surprised.

First of all I didn't insult anyone before I got insulted.
Second, it seems if you try to be constructive you are automatically an idiot.
Third, I've been playing around 50 games since I discovered adult VNs, I enjoy them very much, but only the first run. I keep saying Milfy City is the best I've played techincally (I played all you have in your signature, but too few content).
Fourth, I understand you are now critisicing the admins of the forum, because in your opinion I should be punished too. The thing is I could understand that they delete that post cause I really think I crossed the line of respect, but i also understand they don't, becasue I didn't point anyone, while others did, and they did it because I was trying to defend the dev of an endless whining thread that seemed, as I have written again, totally illogic <-- this can be a mental illness, it's called schizophrenia. And by the way, and before you attack me again, I've been suffering mental illness for years, it's called depression and anxiety and I don't have any problem to say it, I don't think I'm garbage because of that.

 

[Aristos]

First of all I didn't insult anyone before I got insulted.
Second, it seems if you try to be constructive you are automatically an idiot.
Third, I've been playing around 50 games since I discovered adult VNs, I enjoy them very much, but only the first run. I keep saying Milfy City is the best I've played techincally (I played all you have in your signature, but too few content).
Fourth, I understand you are now critisicing the admins of the forum, because in your opinion I should be punished too. The thing is I could understand that they delete that post cause I really think I crossed the line of respect, but i also understand they don't, becasue I didn't point anyone, while others did, and they did it because I was trying to defend the dev of an endless whining thread that seemed, as I have written again, totally illogic <-- this can be a mental illness, it's called schizophrenia. And by the way, and before you attack me again, I've been suffering mental illness for years, it's called depression and anxiety and I don't have any problem to say it, I don't think I'm garbage because of that.

People defending Icstor are brainless simps without dignity.
I haven't pointed at anyone so I expect my post not to be deleted either
Getting a post deleted is not being punished by the way, I don't like people being sanctioned or banned from this site and that includes of course you.

As for technical quality, man, City Of Broken Dreamers or Being a DIK are both head and shoulders ahead Milfy City.
Apparently you are very new to this whole world. As you can see I've been around for almost 3 years. Icstor makes this humble industry look in a very bad light. You cannot be a fickle fuck, argue burnout when you mean boredom and keep getting paid tens of thousands of dollars every single month for not actively working on the games people are paying you to develop.
If he keeps getting away with it, can you imagine what other devs would be tempted to do? It's immoral and it's absolutely harmful to this industry. Can't you see what is at stake here?

 

[Connel]

People defending Icstor are brainless simps without dignity.
I haven't pointed at anyone so I expect my post not to be deleted either
Getting a post deleted is not being punished by the way, I don't like people being sanctioned or banned from this site and that includes of course you.

As for technical quality, man, City Of Broken Dreamers or Being a DIK are both head and shoulders ahead Milfy City.
Apparently you are very new to this whole world. As you can see I've been around for almost 3 years. Icstor makes this humble industry look in a very bad light. You cannot be a fickle fuck, argue burnout when you mean boredom and keep getting paid tens of thousands of dollars every single month for not actively working on the games people are paying you to develop.
If he keeps getting away with it, can you imagine what other devs would be tempted to do? It's immoral and it's absolutely harmful to this industry. Can't you see what is at stake here?

I don't know if answering you is leading to anywhere, after all you don't read if it's too long, so I won't expect your attention at all, because I said, in previous posts and again in the one you admitted you didn't read, the way patreon works is wrong, so blaming the artists lead to nowhere. But I'll say it again, maybe this time I'll be more lucky: Why would a supporter keep paying a project once it is finished? I mean, when all supporters know that project will have no more updates. What a normal person would do in a non communist country is to create another profile, start a new project and cash again. It's counter productive to keep developing other projects under the same nick, you will get more supporters, yes, but all your supporters will pay the same for all your projects, instead having multiple projects you get multiple fees from each supporter. So the problem here is not the dev. I think I'm answering you.
And again, I would understand if they delete my post, but I understand id they don't. What you didn't understand (and I can see why, you don't really read what I wrote or you didn't pay attention) is I was not pointing the people who were raging on the dev but the people who were insulting me for "defending" him.

 

[Connel]

People defending Icstor are brainless simps without dignity.
I haven't pointed at anyone so I expect my post not to be deleted either
Getting a post deleted is not being punished by the way, I don't like people being sanctioned or banned from this site and that includes of course you.

As for technical quality, man, City Of Broken Dreamers or Being a DIK are both head and shoulders ahead Milfy City.
Apparently you are very new to this whole world. As you can see I've been around for almost 3 years. Icstor makes this humble industry look in a very bad light. You cannot be a fickle fuck, argue burnout when you mean boredom and keep getting paid tens of thousands of dollars every single month for not actively working on the games people are paying you to develop.
If he keeps getting away with it, can you imagine what other devs would be tempted to do? It's immoral and it's absolutely harmful to this industry. Can't you see what is at stake here?

I played Broken dreamers and Depreaved Awakening and they are very good. Being a DIK is so overrated, I played it too (3 times to unlock the dick and chick runs)

 

[Connel]

I played Broken dreamers and Depreaved Awakening and they are very good. Being a DIK is so overrated, I played it too (3 times to unlock the dick and chick runs)

Actually, cause this is not a question of pride, I'm gonna delete myself that "mental illness" thing, so it won't be a problem for admins anymore. After all I have admitted twice I got beyond the line of respect in the heat of the moment.

 

[SuddenReal]

- The way patreon works (and other platforms, I said this in another thread) is not very compatible with this kind of content. Why would a dev want to finish a game? To lose patreon supporters? I mean, would you still supporting a game you know it will have no more updates?

I knew I should have responded to this when I saw you mention this the first time (can't remember which thread, but that doesn't matter anyway). It's not about supporting a game, it's about supporting a dev. If you have only one good game in you, that's a shame, but milking that game so you wouldn't lose your patreon money will just tarnish that game. The whole idea behind being a game developper is that you develop more than one game. Of course, when the first one crashes and burns, you'll likely not make a second one, but that is the initial intention.

You say a developper isn't motivated by Patreon to finish games, so let me give you some examples of successful developpers who finished theirs: DrPinkCake (finished Acting Lessons, currently making Being a DIK, 8500 Patreons), NLT Media (finished Visiting Aunt Sara, My Summer With Mom and Sis, Lust Epidemic, currently making Treasure of Nadia, 10588 Patreons), ICSTOR (finished MILF's Control, Incest Story 1 & 2, MILF's Villa, currently "making" Milfy City, 6065 Patreons). You make a game, finish it and then make a new one to keep that Patreon support. You might lose Patreons because they don't like the new one, but if you're good, you'll gain other followers.

So yeah, the dev you're defending is in the list of guys who finished games. But let's be honest, games that were rushed at the ending because he got bored with them. And now he's not even bothering to end the current one, even though people who were contracted by him claim to have done their part.