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unlikely... I would expect an Update of the scale of 0.6... took as long and ICStor was actually "more motivated" than now... but this time Baron did some of his work so maybe we can expect a similiar Update
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I did my usual check-in to this thread, by going to the last page and check what's new (most likely nothing but still).
I was surprised to read hopeful comments, happy people who liked the game so far and wanted to see what comes next. I cracked my fingers and got ready to disappoint them and realized....I had mis-clicked and was reading the 2nd page of the thread xD
Have a nice day!
I was surprised to read hopeful comments, happy people who liked the game so far and wanted to see what comes next. I cracked my fingers and got ready to disappoint them and realized....I had mis-clicked and was reading the 2nd page of the thread xD
Have a nice day!
That's what I tell Sara every night.
- Apr 12, 2018
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your neighbors muust have called the cops on you regulary than, given her screamer (from pain) personality
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The real update was the friends we made along the way
Another reason why I was disappointed with it.The real update was the friends we made along the way
I didn't point anyone, but it's ok if you feel aluded, you may have your reasons. Things started earlier when I defended the dev and I got people here saying I'm stupid, idiot or even the dev. I was pointing them.
Everyone is free to have an opinion, and to write it. EVeryone is free to release their frustration or hate here, generating more hate. I've been in many forums for more than 20 years and yeah, there are many forums full of this kind of people who does not contribute anything good. I have my opinioin too, but I usually point the facts.
Facts:
- This game is one of the best technically out there. Awesome models, and awesome animations. Story/plot, same as 50% of them all: guy in the city fucking everything moving
- People like this game (patreon numbers don't lie)
- I don't know the dev, I'm quite new here, I played my first adult visual novel a few months ago (a nice discovery, I must admit)
- The way patreon works (and other platforms, I said this in another thread) is not very compatible with this kind of content. Why would a dev want to finish a game? To lose patreon supporters? I mean, would you still supporting a game you know it will have no more updates?
Having said all that, I think it's not wise keep complaining about a dev who said this or that, who hasn't updated for a year or for a month. If you're paying him, stop paying, otherwise you're part of the problem. And of course if you're not paying (like me) stop complaining, it's useless and only brings frustration to people trying to read something interesting about the game.
Anyway, when some of you say I'm the dev of this game, I think you are not very smart, or you are writting the first thing coming to your mind, or your frustration for not having more updates is REALLY sick. There are tons of porn content in the internet to fap away, and if you really like the game, then why do you charge on the dev? Because you hope he will read this and work harder so you can fap sooner? I'm sorry but I just can't believe this shit. I think they have a discord channel for supporters anyway so they can puke all their bile there. What is clear to me is a dev would never come here (with a different nick) to try to convince you of anything. Even a dev with a lot of free time. And if you really think I'm the dev, you could find more posts I wrote, i have written very few, one of them is my list of favourite games in order and guess what? Milfy city is not the first one.
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- Dec 28, 2017
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Your message is too long, honestly I didn't read the whole thing.
The truth is someone called you and idiot and his message was deleted. You said other people had mental problems and your message is still there. Maybe you were both right: people criticizing Icstor have mental problems and you are indeed an idiot.
Maybe you were both wrong: no one has mental problems and you are not an idiot.
But there should be equal rights for everyone: either insulting is allowed or it's not.
BTW, the game is crap compared to more recent titles. Icstor rested on his laurels and the latest update, released over 1 year ago, was shit compared to the previous ones. Update your game list, you'll be surprised by the quality many devs have been putting out consistently while Icstor decided to become a lazy conman.
First of all I didn't insult anyone before I got insulted.
Second, it seems if you try to be constructive you are automatically an idiot.
Third, I've been playing around 50 games since I discovered adult VNs, I enjoy them very much, but only the first run. I keep saying Milfy City is the best I've played techincally (I played all you have in your signature, but too few content).
Fourth, I understand you are now critisicing the admins of the forum, because in your opinion I should be punished too. The thing is I could understand that they delete that post cause I really think I crossed the line of respect, but i also understand they don't, becasue I didn't point anyone, while others did, and they did it because I was trying to defend the dev of an endless whining thread that seemed, as I have written again, totally illogic <-- this can be a mental illness, it's called schizophrenia. And by the way, and before you attack me again, I've been suffering mental illness for years, it's called depression and anxiety and I don't have any problem to say it, I don't think I'm garbage because of that.
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People defending Icstor are brainless simps without dignity.
I haven't pointed at anyone so I expect my post not to be deleted either
Getting a post deleted is not being punished by the way, I don't like people being sanctioned or banned from this site and that includes of course you.
As for technical quality, man, City Of Broken Dreamers or Being a DIK are both head and shoulders ahead Milfy City.
Apparently you are very new to this whole world. As you can see I've been around for almost 3 years. Icstor makes this humble industry look in a very bad light. You cannot be a fickle fuck, argue burnout when you mean boredom and keep getting paid tens of thousands of dollars every single month for not actively working on the games people are paying you to develop.
If he keeps getting away with it, can you imagine what other devs would be tempted to do? It's immoral and it's absolutely harmful to this industry. Can't you see what is at stake here?
I don't know if answering you is leading to anywhere, after all you don't read if it's too long, so I won't expect your attention at all, because I said, in previous posts and again in the one you admitted you didn't read, the way patreon works is wrong, so blaming the artists lead to nowhere. But I'll say it again, maybe this time I'll be more lucky: Why would a supporter keep paying a project once it is finished? I mean, when all supporters know that project will have no more updates. What a normal person would do in a non communist country is to create another profile, start a new project and cash again. It's counter productive to keep developing other projects under the same nick, you will get more supporters, yes, but all your supporters will pay the same for all your projects, instead having multiple projects you get multiple fees from each supporter. So the problem here is not the dev. I think I'm answering you.People defending Icstor are brainless simps without dignity.
I haven't pointed at anyone so I expect my post not to be deleted either
Getting a post deleted is not being punished by the way, I don't like people being sanctioned or banned from this site and that includes of course you.
As for technical quality, man, City Of Broken Dreamers or Being a DIK are both head and shoulders ahead Milfy City.
Apparently you are very new to this whole world. As you can see I've been around for almost 3 years. Icstor makes this humble industry look in a very bad light. You cannot be a fickle fuck, argue burnout when you mean boredom and keep getting paid tens of thousands of dollars every single month for not actively working on the games people are paying you to develop.
If he keeps getting away with it, can you imagine what other devs would be tempted to do? It's immoral and it's absolutely harmful to this industry. Can't you see what is at stake here?
And again, I would understand if they delete my post, but I understand id they don't. What you didn't understand (and I can see why, you don't really read what I wrote or you didn't pay attention) is I was not pointing the people who were raging on the dev but the people who were insulting me for "defending" him.
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I played Broken dreamers and Depreaved Awakening and they are very good. Being a DIK is so overrated, I played it too (3 times to unlock the dick and chick runs)People defending Icstor are brainless simps without dignity.
I haven't pointed at anyone so I expect my post not to be deleted either
Getting a post deleted is not being punished by the way, I don't like people being sanctioned or banned from this site and that includes of course you.
As for technical quality, man, City Of Broken Dreamers or Being a DIK are both head and shoulders ahead Milfy City.
Apparently you are very new to this whole world. As you can see I've been around for almost 3 years. Icstor makes this humble industry look in a very bad light. You cannot be a fickle fuck, argue burnout when you mean boredom and keep getting paid tens of thousands of dollars every single month for not actively working on the games people are paying you to develop.
If he keeps getting away with it, can you imagine what other devs would be tempted to do? It's immoral and it's absolutely harmful to this industry. Can't you see what is at stake here?
Actually, cause this is not a question of pride, I'm gonna delete myself that "mental illness" thing, so it won't be a problem for admins anymore. After all I have admitted twice I got beyond the line of respect in the heat of the moment.
I knew I should have responded to this when I saw you mention this the first time (can't remember which thread, but that doesn't matter anyway). It's not about supporting a game, it's about supporting a dev. If you have only one good game in you, that's a shame, but milking that game so you wouldn't lose your patreon money will just tarnish that game. The whole idea behind being a game developper is that you develop more than one game. Of course, when the first one crashes and burns, you'll likely not make a second one, but that is the initial intention.
You say a developper isn't motivated by Patreon to finish games, so let me give you some examples of successful developpers who finished theirs: DrPinkCake (finished Acting Lessons, currently making Being a DIK, 8500 Patreons), NLT Media (finished Visiting Aunt Sara, My Summer With Mom and Sis, Lust Epidemic, currently making Treasure of Nadia, 10588 Patreons), ICSTOR (finished MILF's Control, Incest Story 1 & 2, MILF's Villa, currently "making" Milfy City, 6065 Patreons). You make a game, finish it and then make a new one to keep that Patreon support. You might lose Patreons because they don't like the new one, but if you're good, you'll gain other followers.
So yeah, the dev you're defending is in the list of guys who finished games. But let's be honest, games that were rushed at the ending because he got bored with them. And now he's not even bothering to end the current one, even though people who were contracted by him claim to have done their part.
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Funny, the last update was almost a year ago and we know two things;
- He's hired someone to help him yet the wait time between 0.6 and 0.7 is a pisstake
- The update will still only have a couple of hours content at most.
- He's hired someone to help him yet the wait time between 0.6 and 0.7 is a pisstake
- The update will still only have a couple of hours content at most.
Well, I didn't know this dev actually had many more games and some are finished, that's another reason to defend him (or them) then. Anyway, if your goal is to make the best possible living out of your work (as I think we all do), you would rather start independent games and work on the updates in parallel. I don't think Dr.PinkCake is getting supporters for Acting Lessons (great game, by the way, better than Being a DIK), and if he is getting them, he's getting more for being a DIK for sure. After all it's the supporters who understand the underlying idea of patreon: support the artists so they can keep working. But for the devs this is not working good. Maybe they should focus the games as a series instead of a movie, so they can keep earning money without an end for the story in the horizon (though the story itself may lose sense and interest), or maybe the patreon thing should work in a different way. I don't know the solution really. What happens when a dev is earning 15k $ a month? He can yoohoo and enjoy his life or he can subcontract animators, modellers, or simply buy more models and animation on the market so he can work faster... or he can start a small company, or he can start parallel projects... I don't know. What I do know is if you start multiple unfinished projects you can have multiple payments from the same supporter.
It's not.
If you mean something like The Artifact by ICCreatcions, I agree. That game had two sequels, and a spin off which was abandonned due to the Patreon Purge. If you're talking about a game where all story is just abandonned in favour of popular votes for girls, I disagree (that happened to the original Big Brother, several paths were dead ends because of how Patreons voted, and the whole game just devolved into a dumb cliché mess that didn't make fulfill any of the promises of the start). If the game isn't captivating, I'm moving on to the next one, so that's less money for the developper.
Okay, read again what you just said, but slowly. You can't subscribe twice to someone.
First of all (to humour you), if you follow someone who has multiple projects, you get all those projects for the same price as you would for a single one.
Second of all, if you take on a second project, you have less time to dedicate to your original project, which will lower production. I'd rather have a full completed game, followed by another, updating every two months, than six games, each updated once a year. If I lose interest, I move on. The only reason why I'm active again in this thread is because I put this in my watched list in the past and wondered what happened to it.
And finally, if you start new projects without finishing the previous ones, you'll get a bad rep in the community, and then you get hate in the threads, like what is happening now. I know the saying is "there is no such thing as bad press" but clearly there are limits.
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Well, many people gave him money for a long time before withdrawing their support, they were very patient and trusted the author to fulfill his promises, also, there is no "hate", people have a right to their opinions and to call out liars, who are you to tell them otherwise? I for one welcome the backlash, maybe their dissatisfaction can make a difference in terms of getting this game finished, author has made more than 400k this year without actually releasing an update, I think that's unfair to those who are still loyal to him, you act as if he's doing this for free.
No, no. You don't understand. Instead of creating ONE patreon account with 4 projects (3 finished), you create FOUR patreon accounts with 1 project each, all unfinished. With the first option you can get 5000 supporters in one account (for the unfinished project mostly), but in the second you can get 5000 supporters on each account. After all you will get no supporters (or maybe a few) for finished projects, if the underlying idea of a supporter is to help the dev update or finish the project.With the second option same supporters can pay multiple times, with the second option the can not.
I completely understand and agree your opinion in the rest of your post, it is totally logical from the supporter point of view, but not from the developer side. If you have understood what I said now, it's pretty obvious the best choice for a dev, and that's very bad for supporters. Maybe some developers are too busy updating multiple projects (under different accounts) and that's why they update so late.
I totally agree. Stop supporting him, you can support him again when he updates at a rate you're happy with. A supporter can complain more effectively through the patreon channel, anyway, so I don't see what's the use of all this whinning in the forums. The same way some told me I was the developer using a fake account (for defending him), I could say all these haters are fake accounts from other devs trying to steal supporters. I think both ideas are absurd, but they have the same base.