Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

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MurkyTurtle

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MausMaus said:
1. That does not matter, as far as F95 is concerned he has not abandoned the game. He just does not meet the requirements that F95 has set for games to be marked as abandoned.
2. F95 is a pirate site, he does not have to meet F95 requirements at all. F95 has no affiliation with Patreon. Some devs will allow their game to be posted on here, sometimes releasing on Patreon a week early or maybe with some added incentives. I am not sure if ICSTOR has done that TBH. But as far as ICSTOR's moral obligation to F95 and its users, he has none we are pirating his game.
If you ask me, yes he is scamming his Patreons out of money, and I do not believe the update will be released this month(I hope I am wrong), as he stated. But as far as F95 goes, it does not matter. They have requirements for when a game gets marked as abandoned, and this game does not meet the requirements.

Edit: I have no idea what Patreon rules are for cancelling a project or marking it as a scam.
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I mean, at the end of the day the rules are whatever the F95 admins say they are. As you said, this is a pirate site, so when it comes to how things are tagged, well...



GumdropGames pulled the same stunt with Dual Family (he'd sometimes provide multiple status updates a week!) and eventually the mods tagged his game as "Abandoned" after missing multiple deadlines and failing to update after over 2 years, so we definitely have precedent. Normally I wouldn't imagine that using such a tag would be any sort of incentive for ICSTOR to update, but seeing as how he's definitely keeping an eye on us by providing status updates only days before he'd be tagged he does view us as useful advertising at the very least.

And if nothing else, it'd stop people coming in here wondering why it hasn't been tagged yet :rolleyes:
 
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MurkyTurtle said:
I mean, at the end of the day the rules are whatever the F95 admins say they are. As you said, this is a pirate site, so when it comes to how things are tagged, well...



GumdropGames pulled the same stunt with Dual Family (he'd sometimes provide multiple status updates a week!) and eventually the mods tagged his game as "Abandoned" after missing multiple deadlines and failing to update after over 2 years, so we definitely have precedent. Normally I wouldn't imagine that using such a tag would be any sort of incentive for ICSTOR to update, but seeing as how he's definitely keeping an eye on us by providing status updates only days before he'd be tagged he does view us as useful advertising at the very least.

And if nothing else, it'd stop people coming in here wondering why it hasn't been tagged yet :rolleyes:
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I don't know anything about dual family. What I do know is, that if there is no communication from the dev for 3 months, the game gets marked as abandoned. I just looked at Dual Family and it is not marked as abandoned, the only other reason they would mark a game with it is if the dev specifically asked them too.
Yes, of course, the F95 staff can change their own rules, but that is just reaching for something that, at this moment does not exist.
At the moment what does exist is the current guidelines, and with the current guidelines, the game is not abandoned.

As far as him dropping in here to give us updates, once again he does not have to do that. The communication guidelines do not have to be communicating with F95, it can be on any platform. It's not like "oh he has not replied to the F95 thread in 3 months, instant tag." ICSTOR might have never been on here in his life, the game would still not meet the requirements.

Also, your initial point is just untrue, just because the site is a pirate site does not mean the admins do not take it seriously. At least from what I have seen on here, they follow their own guidelines.
 
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MausMaus said:
I don't know anything about dual family. What I do know is, that if there is no communication from the dev for 3 months, the game gets marked as abandoned. I just looked at Dual Family and it is not marked as abandoned, the only other reason they would mark a game with it is if the dev specifically asked them too.
Yes, of course, the F95 staff can change their own rules, but that is just reaching for something that, at this moment does not exist.
At the moment what does exist is the current guidelines, and with the current guidelines, the game is not abandoned.

As far as him dropping in here to give us updates, once again he does not have to do that. The communication guidelines do not have to be communicating with F95, it can be on any platform. It's not like "oh he has not replied to the F95 thread in 3 months, instant tag." ICSTOR might have never been on here in his life, the game would still not meet the requirements.

Also, your initial point is just untrue, just because the site is a pirate site does not mean the admins do not take it seriously. At least from what I have seen on here, they follow their own guidelines.
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My point was that the rules are in place as a show of good faith to devs that have long update cycles or are taking longer than expected on a game update but keeping their benefactors in the loop. I brought up Dual Family because the case mirrors this one; the dev would give repeated status updates full of how much work he was doing and projected deadlines but would never actually update. The mods tagged him as "Abandoned" after a couple years of this garbage. The only reason it isn't tagged as "Abandoned" now is because he rebooted the game (a mess which is far too stupid to get into here) and the mods merged the two threads together.

The last two or three Patreon updates ICSTOR has given are suspiciously spaced almost exactly three months apart. Adult games don't get a lot of traffic from normal places on the internet, so their devs have a certain amount of reliance on sites like F95 for promotional purposes. To put it bluntly, he knows we're here (he used to post years ago) and he's clearly abusing the good faith rules. With all of his missed deadlines, all the work he's farmed out to freelancers, his complete failure to do something as simple as a monthly update despite hiring a "community manager", and his blatant admission that he'd rather be working on a new game, why should we give him the benefit of the doubt that he hasn't abandoned this game? If the answer is "because the rules say so" then they're not very good rules.
 
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Hi friends!! I come from the future!! Does the covid-19 pandemic sound familiar to you? Nobody remembers here anymore. I can't tell you the year but we are in World War III, there are zoombies. Women don't want to have children anymore and have created their own religious cult with a Goddess and all that... Oh, by the way, remember that ICSTOR had mentioned something about an update in the date of May 2021, well...
 
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Hi friends!! I come from the future!! Does the covid-19 pandemic sound familiar to you? Nobody remembers here anymore. I can't tell you the year but we are in World War III, there are zoombies. Women don't want to have children anymore and have created their own religious cult with a Goddess and all that... Oh, by the way, remember that ICSTOR had mentioned something about an update in the date of May 2021, well...
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Do we have flying car yet?
 
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mhoyko said:
Hi friends!! I come from the future!! Does the covid-19 pandemic sound familiar to you? Nobody remembers here anymore. I can't tell you the year but we are in World War III, there are zoombies. Women don't want to have children anymore and have created their own religious cult with a Goddess and all that... Oh, by the way, remember that ICSTOR had mentioned something about an update in the date of May 2021, well...
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Do we have faster rendering machines in future that can give updates by week
 
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Hi friends!! I come from the future!! Does the covid-19 pandemic sound familiar to you? Nobody remembers here anymore. I can't tell you the year but we are in World War III, there are zoombies. Women don't want to have children anymore and have created their own religious cult with a Goddess and all that... Oh, by the way, remember that ICSTOR had mentioned something about an update in the date of May 2021, well...
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Say hello for me to George Jetson and Mr. Spacely will ya?
 
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Fact: As long as the patreon doesn't go below 5000 then forget it to get new update, its easy money so no need to release any updates because my patreon grow more with only one news update
 
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Lmao ICSTOR's bullshit in 23 days? Impossible, 23 years? Most probably. Because I heard he got coma from sugoma. Also how do I fucking unwatch this thread seeing an eye besides the thread title makes my eyes sore.
 
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