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jackp0t

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Well the whole ICSTOR's tale is the following.
The guy is making somes games, after 3 or 4 releases got bored and concluded the game to begin another one (Older supporter were saying that).
I discovered his game Milfy City in 2018 (or 2017) I think. There was quite a lot of content and cuz it was the first one I discovered at least I didn't think there wasn't any content.

Animation was super good, it was a good surprise and with a grasp of content, you can say this is a good game.
People complaining about story... well I DO understand but we r not here for it anyway and a good story can be blamed (a truly good one put you in the game but you follow the story and don't f**)

The first new updates were quite good and not too late. From 0.2 to 0.4 I think. The wait for 0.5 was quite long imho.
At this time he was already famous from his previous games and for Milfy City.
Back then it isn't too much difficult to anticipate the whole situation incoming... The guy is making thousand of dollars each month with a promise of releasing smth and even if he doesn't there isn't any back(s)l(e)ash.
A French saying is "a promise is engaging only the one who believes in it".
Moreover he's someone who is getting bored easily. The guy bored just stopped doing anything and even me who knows quite well about him (according that in 2021 it happens what it happens) was close to believe him saying 0.6 would be big lol.

He didn't release anything and we were a lot waiting F95 putting an abandoned tag which would affect his reputation. It forced him to release something. It was in the same level of 2018. I wasn't even waiting 0.7 and he did release it I was surprised until I checked the changelog and saw +200 renders (only) and for Sara.
People are complaining too much so Patreon is reviewing his page. They must find something, and found some mud with the age of girls, the plot and incest patch. As American, they can tolerate every BS, every violence scene but not much of sexuality.
American and their purity thing :ROFLMAO:o_O

Some conclusions: This game was excellent when he released it, right now concurrence is here but Milfy City's animations are (much more) better than vast majority of other games no jokes. When I see some comments saying Dating a daughter is better animated damn I could cry ;)

Even tho ICSTOR is a scammer, a fraudster, I think the responsability shouldn't be only on his shoulder. I mean rating websites could put the abandoned notice way before and Patreon did not do his job.

I read that Patreon should or could do a system of pay per release or holding money until release. I also a good comment about how it was before and there was still some problems.
Here knowing the temptation, ICSTOR would surely release smth like 0.7 each time to get money, how does could it be bigger.
It would prevent the liberty of the patrons who can give to whoever they want.

Furthemore, people complaining about F95's people who paid nothing complains about ICSTOR's Patrons... Well, I think you misunderstood them. They mostly complained about why freely helping a scammer and about the idea it isn't optimal. Wasting money on ICSTOR, even if it's your right, is taking this money away from some dev who needs it and would release a good game in the meantime.

It is just too bad for the whole community. BTW, do you know guys some games which contains some pantyhose/stockings scenes, footjob or soft femdom? For soft femdom I mean like urination, footjob or foot licking. I don't need any profound femdom game, I already played them Imho
I like Fetish locator but that means I don't need another fetishes content focused game. A game like Milfy City but with an occurence of pantyhose/stockings and footjob scenes. Is there any game like that rn on F95 ?

Sorry for my bad English and the long message x)
This post is now the dictionary definition for wall of txt.

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Deleted member 4041066

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Then I hope one of his current or ex patreons report him for fraud if the page gets unlocked.
As in do the exact same thing that some of his patrons did actively during these, what, one and a half years when he wasn't really active in Patreon? And what exactly did Patreon do because of these reports? Emailed him few times asking what is up and wasn't actually interested at all. They only got interested when the community guidelines breaking content was reported. They could care less if he actually gives content updates on his porn game or not when he has 7000+ patrons and Patreon gets a great cut out of that money. Smut game supporters ain't going to sue Patreon as they don't have the funds to do it, and if they would have, Patreon would just counter sue them, just like Patreon did with that one comedians supporters.
 

Anonnona

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As in do the exact same thing that some of his patrons did actively during these, what, one and a half years when he wasn't really active in Patreon? And what exactly did Patreon do because of these reports? Emailed him few times asking what is up and wasn't actually interested at all. They only got interested when the community guidelines breaking content was reported. They could care less if he actually gives content updates on his porn game or not when he has 7000+ patrons and Patreon gets a great cut out of that money. Smut game supporters ain't going to sue Patreon as they don't have the funds to do it, and if they would have, Patreon would just counter sue them, just like Patreon did with that one comedians supporters.
That's exactly the attitude that enabled him to pull shit like this.
Good on you if you believe that people were enlightened enough to report him and stop supporting him. hence he has lost supporters since the last release.
Stop giving up before even making an attempt. I get that you feel entirely powerless because you truly are, but you only become weaker with such a pathetic mindset.
People only started reporting him after the idea was first floated here. none were even aware they could and as far as I know, doesn't seem like a creator can be reported for fraud (advance apologies if I'm wrong), hence the suggestion to sue patreon because they are technically allowing fraud to happen by not monitoring such creators. therefore giving the prosecutors a stronger case.

Coming to your point about the comedian's countersuit, I don't know the exact details, but how the hell did you make this comparison? one is a comedian and another an adult game developer who has constantly lied for his own financial benefit. I'm assuming the comedian was sued for saying something offensive/controversial? that has got nothing to do with committing fraud. committing fraud can lead one to JAIL. Icstor's fraud isn't speculative, there is solid proof. Icstor has repeatedly made promises that would ensure his support continues and has failed to show otherwise.
stop with this defeatist mentality buddy or at least keep it to yourself. let the people that wanna try something, make their attempt. they can undoubtedly fail, but they can also succeed. in this case is very much possible, thanks to all the glaring errors icstor has made.
Patreon pretty much logs everything, so he won't be able to manufacture any sort of evidence to say otherwise, the only way someone would lose this is if they are really stupid and hire an even stupider lawyer.
What would you say would be his argument when asked why he made promises (on multiple occasions, not once or twice, way more than that) and never kept his word. and if he really wasn't interested in the money why the hell did he have to make promises. additionally, why didn't he pause his patreon when he knew that he wouldn't be able to keep that promise?
Patreon will not even be able to counter sue. that would only happen if the person makes unproven public comments defaming patreon and even that would only be possible if they somehow end up losing the case and icstor is declared innocent.

But even if they win, patreon risks losing too much for a mere fraudulent adult game developer. it only takes a few curious souls to go into icstor's patreon page and see for themselves the extent of his scam.
 

Deleted member 4041066

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The whole text wall.
I'm not going to continue this off-topic any longer, cause it doesn't change a thing to a direction or another, and I'm going to ignore you after this. You want to pay and go to court, be my guest by all means man. I'm just pretty sure that you won't find too many Band of Brothers from this site for that fight, no matter how much you rant and rant about it. What I'm saying is repeating the same record year in and year out ain't going to change a thing as we have seen already. People have reported, Patreon hasn't been interested. He is still there, he is still going strong with his scam after all this time. You want to believe in Santa Claus, be my guest.
 

Anonnona

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I'm not going to continue this off-topic any longer, cause it doesn't change a thing to a direction or another, and I'm going to ignore you after this. You want to pay and go to court, be my guest by all means man. I'm just pretty sure that you won't find too many Band of Brothers from this site for that fight, no matter how much you rant and rant about it. What I'm saying is repeating the same record year in and year out ain't going to change a thing as we have seen already. People have reported, Patreon hasn't been interested. He is still there, he is still going strong with his scam after all this time. You want to believe in Santa Claus, be my guest.
This is as on topic as can be, one 400 render update in 2 years after countless promises. the topic of discussion is definitely gonna shift from game to the creator.
Wait, why is his page under review again?
I didn't expect you to cut me off. I'm heartbroken now.
The idea behind satan santa claus is that you get what you wish for just by being a "good" person. what a bullshit fantasy. I don't understand why you think that is the only way to obtain something.
 

Kracken36

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Has anything been said since his page was removed from Patreon? I find it very concerning that I've read a lot of argument in the last number of pages but nothing from the developer himself. I would hope he'd be on top of this issue...
 
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