Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[BigDilly48]

The only thing we need to see is the finished game, if another supposed deadline comes and goes, and nothing is presented, all hell's going to break loose here like it did nearly two years ago when the Sara update was released. It was total anarchy here before, during, and after that update dropped.

Words mean shit. If it comes out, and it's actually GOOD, then fine, a 3+ YEAR PROMISE of "the game's being released" will finally be fulfilled, but if it's crap, I'd run to the hills if I was ICSTOR, and all the people that supported him.

Taking THREE YEARS to complete a game that was promised to us many moons ago means nothing. NLT FINISHED ToN and is 75% through TGO while this game has been sitting at .71 (really 0.6 e) for eons now. No doubt who the better dev is there.

Still a scammer and a liar. THAT will be ICSTOR's legacy!

I think you're being a bit melodramatic with the whole "if Icstor breaks his promise for a release for the 5th+ time, THIS TIME all hell is going to break loose!!" This forum has already been in a pattern of breaking loose for years at this point. Trust has long since been broken if you're a rational person. I agree that the only thing we need now is a finished game, but I don't think anything will drastically change here if *shock* ICSTOR once again breaks their promise. I'm sure ICSTOR is able to wipe the tears of being called a scammer/liar with his 4000+ patron's money lmao. Even if it goes back down, ICSTOR is always going to have a sizable monthly income if thousands of patrons still believe in him despite not delivering on anything for years.

 

[Mapedi]

If you take a look, I've answered variations of this question a few times now.

For clarity:
No, there is no harem in the 1.0 release.
Doing so would delay the release by at least 3 months by my estimate.
The game absolutely deserves a harem route.
If ICSTOR wants to go down a harem route I would happily plan one out and work on it.
I don't know what ICSTOR's plans are though.

The only good thing about the delays, the harem ending should be included now

 

[Orgitas]

41k total users on the discord and they don't revolt over the blatant false advertising and money miking? Sounds like the Dev really has an army of sheep lapping up all the excuses.

 

[Ennoch]

although of course I don't know how fast it is progressing

Last update? July of 2021.
Slow. Slow i'd say.

 

[abcr11]

There are 5. main team members in total: ICSTOR, Onyxdime (writer), Koneser (programmer), Catis and DrPorni (3D artists)
and then 8. admins who take care of the discord server including me, the admins do not take part in the development of the game

Are you the administrator in discord responsible for blocking
You are as bad as ICSTOR,
Are all the staff coming out one after another to cheat and delay the time now?

 

[kjadlsfjals]

Unfortunately, I don't have direct access to all renders, their progress or the overall completion of the game,
only to certain renders that were shared in the group thanks to which I know that it is being worked on, although of course I don't know how fast it is progressing
so I can't answer you

Can you speak to why it has been radio silent from onyxdime?

 

[Badjourasmix]

It hurts that the people who made fun of the believers were right in the end

I mean... How many times does he have to lie and miss deadlines for people to learn their lesson? At this point if you still believe anything he says I don't feel bad for you.

 

[golgahobnit]

If some dispute arises from any service contract between 2 individuals the plaintiff shall bear a lot of fees because he needs to pay for drafting of claim and schedules, translation and attendance of judgments. Certainly you are entitled to reward these costs from the defendant (icstor) but success is dependent. In all cases legal costs for such litigation exceed the price of writing services regarding porn games. Obviously they entered into gentleman agreement for cooperation.

lol the dude's a lawyer. Even if he isn't a litigation expert, suing should be much less difficult and expensive for him than for the average person. And as mentioned, as long as there's enough money involved - which, looking at the Patreon numbers posted in this thread, there is - such costs start becoming negligible.

It still depends on the contents of the agreement.

A gentlemen's agreement can still be legally valid. It's difficult for me to imagine a legal professional allowing/causing such an agreement to come into existence under terms and conditions that are this heavily skewed against their favor. Especially with the amounts of dough involved.

And why would ICSTOR? Why would he endanger his wealth and income by neglecting to ensure that the proper licenses are in place for his cash cow? Without a license/IP transfer re: Onyxdime's writing, he'd expose himself and his collected Patreon wealth to easy-af cookie-cutter IP infringement litigation from Onyxdime. Sure, litigating over incest porn you wrote is embarrassing, but that shit goes out the window for most if there's enough money involved.

EDIT: the EU also has best-seller rights to protect authors. Don't know for sure how that would work after the Brexit but I think ICSTOR is in the EU and the UK likely has some equivalent.

 

[aa84aa]

What's notable is how other games developed afterwards, have very similar storylines, settings, characters, and feel.

Like:

1. Lust Season (formerly Echoes of Lust, seasons 1 & 2, characters, setting, storylines)
2. The Visit (characters)

 

[Carla_BrownBB]

Looks like Onyx has tagged out and Kremes has tagged in to keep the milk warm.

 

[Deleted member 5964070]

What would I achieve by cheating on you?
Let's be honest with each other, this is a pirate forum, we know very well that no one here pays for games
so if it were really like that, my actions would have no meaning

Just to let you know, I DO pay for games, several in fact, but never this one, well, because of obvious reasons that the dev is bloody horrible at his job. All the VNs I have, I pay for, so don't assume ANYTHING. I give almost $100 month total to all the devs I like and respect and who KEEP their development cycles.

 

[JugarComica]

What would I achieve by cheating on you?
Let's be honest with each other, this is a pirate forum, we know very well that no one here pays for games
so if it were really like that, my actions would have no meaning

I think more importantly you should explain why are YOU here posting on a pirate forum specially a so called admin from discord, what have you got to gain by being here?. I noticed since today when you started posting that you joined F95 in 2018 with just a total of 10 posts to your name, yet all of a sudden today you flare up and start posting about how you have seen some game renders. I call BS to what you say.

Come clean and explain your real motives.

 

[Pero95]

Why are you people entertaining these people who claim to be involved with the game?
I've said this before, but far as I see, you enjoy how things are turning out. You love shitting on this game and the dev so much that you don't actually want this game to be finished and the number of pages on an abandoned game speaks volumes of this. You reply to every fucking loser that comes in here and claims he's with the dev team just so you can all, once again, band together and make stupid jokes.
Even tho you keep saying how you want the next update, it seems like this is far more enjoyable for you than actually playing the game.

Have a shred of dignity and stop giving this man attention.
ICSTOR has you all by the balls, and the moment he releases and update, you will all jump on the game and he'll see a significant rise in donors, maybe not from you but most definitely from other people.
I almost admire the man at this point.

 

[HentaiMan8090]

Thanks to the renders I saw, I can confirm that the update is really being worked on, even if the speed of work is slower, so of course there is a hope

Now you've done it. They're going to call you Icstor now.

 

[PRTech]

What would I achieve by cheating on you?
Let's be honest with each other, this is a pirate forum, we know very well that no one here pays for games
so if it were really like that, my actions would have no meaning

1. There are Devs and artist that manage their own threats here. post their game and/or comics after 1 or 2 weeks for free.
2. There are game dev(s) had said here on F95 their work is free and the only reason they have a SubcribeStar/Patreon is so they can invest money on betther hardware and purchase assets to expand their games/comics etc...
3. No game/arts/videos are stored in F95, they are stored on shared sites like Gofile, Mega, Workupload etc...... and Devs/artist/or someone else link them here. So technically F95 is not a pirate site.

 

[rulaze]

What would I achieve by cheating on you?
Let's be honest with each other, this is a pirate forum, we know very well that no one here pays for games
so if it were really like that, my actions would have no meaning

I love every time someone comes in to a thread and talks about it being a pirate forum and that it doesn't affect anything monetarily. But oh, what's that? Icstor goes into panic mode as soon as his game first got the abandoned tag ON THIS PIRATE SITE, and then goes on a spree of posts talking about updates and development after being radio silent. Oh what is this? His subscribers went up? Great! Oh shit we actually need to deliver something. Put out a small update to keep the rubes in line and we are good.

But wait there's more!

Game gets abandoned again and the subscriber count starts dwindling. Oh no what shall we do?! Send in Onyxdime! Where to? Oh right, none other than the PIRATE FORUM! Oh look, subscriber count is going up again! Imagine that! Oh no! Deadlines are missed! People are starting to question things. Whatever shall we do? Send in a discord mod! To, in your own words, "explain to people that work is still ongoing" but also for which you say your actions will have no impact and also no evidence other than your word (lol).

I think it is pretty clear to any would be developer that F95's mere presence and other sites like it, and the fact that there are 28k people on here at the current moment, has a pretty large impact on people finding and supporting these types of games. Not to mention this dev's immediate reaction when the game was first abandoned pretty much confirms that he knows, or someone on his team knows this as well. As for evidence of any of this I think my other post in here will suffice. Graph

 

[PRTech]

41k total users on the discord and they don't revolt over the blatant false advertising and money miking? Sounds like the Dev really has an army of sheep lapping up all the excuses.

Oh they do........ but that's the real reason they have 8 admins so they can ban and control the revolt. How many people mentioned on this thread how they got banned on DISCORD for calling out ICSTOR, even paying subs.

 

[Orgitas]

Oh they do........ but that's the real reason they have 8 admins so they can ban and control the revolt. How many people mentioned on this thread how they got banned on DISCORD for calling out ICSTOR, even paying subs.

Guessing those admins get a pretty pay day to put up with that hot mess of loose morality.

 

[Ennoch]

my personal interest to let people know about the current state of the game

'Soon' and 'Slow' is something everyone is perfectly aware of. How about something we don't know. Since that is the point of informing isn't it.

Perhaps ask I. when he intends to post a newsflash. An update post or something. Why is that noone seems to care to bother Icstor with poking questions every once in a while. Or he immediately goes all butthurt if one does? Is he some sort of mentally unstable snowflake manchild or something?

I was always curious, to some extent, why everybody just sucks this all up. If i invest into something i tend to bother the project's operators regularly. Or everyone just gives the guy the money, shuts the fuck up, rinse and repeat because Icstor cries if asked a question? It is very odd to me.

This is the odd thing with the discord as well. If i pay money, which i don't in this case, and yet being told that i cannot ask certain questions about the project i'm paying for.. being fine with that requires a special kind of stupid. I'm aware that his discord isn't just for subscribers but aren't they asking the same questions ? Are they fine not getting an answer? They are satisifed with the 700th repeat of 'soon'? How this goes over there?

 

[SantiPe]

I mean... How many times does he have to lie and miss deadlines for people to learn their lesson? At this point if you still believe anything he says I don't feel bad for you.

No, I don't believe him anything.