Dave98424

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well first of all this is not a professional work or even a team , it is just bunch of stand renders with few animations along side, and trust me I am real life game designer , when something is professional that you have team and a sponsor that invest over 1 Million dollar over something and expects you to deliver it without delay. people like Icstor are just freelancers, and Icstor is succesful freelancer ,and delays can happen, it is normal if you ever worked as freelancer,

its just amazing that people think just because he earns like 20K per month he should be your Bitch and delivers you an update each 2 months .

good animators earn 20k per month regardless . so if he doesn't get money here he can for surely get it somewhere else
In order for something to be labelled professional all it means is they are being paid, Icstor is getting paid so he is a professional by definition. Now the question is by missing repeated deadlines does that make him less of a professional and in my opinion it does.
 

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Another silly issue is how much money. Most animators that are true professionals do not make a ton of money, they do it because they love the job. Here is some real world proof:

 

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Another silly issue is how much money. Most animators that are true professionals do not make a ton of money, they do it because they love the job. Here is some real world proof:

Great , but don't you think your source is a bit outdated ? it is a bit higher in 2019 ( 20k more ) and they make around 20k per month by teaching on platforms or making sub projects like this :)
 

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Great , but don't you think your source is a bit outdated ? it is a bit higher in 2019 ( 20k more ) and they make around 20k per month by teaching on platforms or making sub projects like this :)
The point was that many true professionals do not make anywhere near 20k a month. The mark of a true professional is someone that lives up to what they say they will do.
 

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how long is delay cause I see him delaying it twice right now
Last update : Nov 17, 2018 at 6:13pm


Break : Mar 23 at 11:28pm


He's back : Jun 14 at 7:35pm


Progress and update probably end of month : Aug 8 at 1:48pm


Testing 1 release for 10 Sep : Aug 29 at 6:13pm


Testing 2 : Sep 26 at 7:14pm


So, just 1 month ? No :
Nov 18 > 22 Mar
BREAK 23 Mar > 13 June
Back 14 June > today

I don't count 1 month, but +6 month.
2000 renders, 10k word in 6 month.
I m writer, i write 500 words in 1h (with 10 min break)
 
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The point was that many true professionals do not make anywhere near 20k a month. The mark of a true professional is someone that lives up to what they say they will do.
well I am working as animator but don't know about you or how is your logic regarding this matter , but i see many of my co-workers who are managing 2 two projects per year and they earn almost around 20k per month

and that is fact it is not even a lie animation or game design industry are dominating the market right now and with platforms like Patreon youtube or other teaching platform such as skillshare and udemy its is to reach that amount of money if you are skilled at your job
 

Damonalgren

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Last update : Nov 17, 2018 at 6:13pm


Break : Mar 23 at 11:28pm


He's back : Jun 14 at 7:35pm


Progress and update probably end of month : Aug 8 at 1:48pm


Testing 1 release for 10 Sep : Aug 29 at 6:13pm


Testing 2 : Sep 26 at 7:14pm


So, just 1 month ? No :
Nov 18 > 22 Mar
BREAK 23 Mar > 13 June
Back 14 June > today

I don't count 1 month, but +6 month.
2000 renders, 10k word in 6 month.
I m writer, i write 500 words in 1h (with 10 min break)
dude don't count his vacation as delay and count time he made christmas episode
 

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Those are the dedicated fans for you ... Gamers are very happy go lucky and looking for a quick ... erm ... game every day;)!
 

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So, is there another delay? It is confirmed? Or are they all just complaining because they feel like it?
 

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Another silly issue is how much money. Most animators that are true professionals do not make a ton of money, they do it because they love the job. Here is some real world proof:

So there are professionals and true professionals. Are there also really true professionals or true true professionals? Having a profession doesn't make you a professional ;)
 

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The problem is, he did caroline renders before the break (which means almost half of the update). Doesn't matter how many words include, writer is another person. Nobody wants that neighbour content and he gone wrong path. Jesus, who the fuck neighbours? I really don't remember. Anyone?
a bad thought: maybe caroline contents weren't ready and he hid it with the excuse of adding new characters...
 
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