holaje12

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NTR basically is one in a relationship KNOWS the other is cheating and is active witness to that.
That usually happens via active watching and usually by "allowing" the other to cheat or even initiate that him/herself.

For that reason Rachels father and mother come awfully close to NTR already, because the father watched/listened transformed as a bat.

Since Rachel is a vampire it can't be ruled out she followed MC in hunt mode/bat form and saw MC "helping" Sophia.



In very simple terms the main difference is knowledge.
If the partner has no clue about the cheating it is ... well cheating.
If the partner is aware of the cheating, watches or initiated it it basically is NTR.
I dont care about general semantics or definitions, the only one that matters here is the one used for the site. And the ntr tag here is only used if it is the mc the one getting cheated on. Otherwise it is just cheating.
pls just stop, discuss ntr im ever fucking thread. pls. stop it
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BlasKyau

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She's a little too femdom-ey for my tastes, but I do see the appeal, particularly that tongue. :sneaky:
I just started the game, and if you are talking about Felvia (the demon at the beginning) she gave me a very bad impression, and in fact I hope that any scene with her is avoidable.

EDIT:

It doesn't matter, just confirm on discord that the game is not a harem, so I already deleted it.

Good luck to the Dev.
 
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I just started the game, and if you are talking about Felvia (the demon at the beginning) she gave me a very bad impression, and in fact I hope that any scene with her is avoidable.

EDIT:

It doesn't matter, just confirm on discord that the game is not a harem, so I already deleted it.

Good luck to the Dev.
not all games have to be harem to do well. there are several good games out there that prove that harem isn't always a good thing
 
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not all games have to be harem to do well. there are several good games out there that prove that harem isn't always a good thing
True but I don't think those games have harem in their planned tags. But not everyone enjoy non-harem games. I don't want to play boyfriend boyfriend with fictional womens in porn game lmfao.
 

BlasKyau

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not all games have to be harem to do well. there are several good games out there that prove that harem isn't always a good thing
It's possible, but unless I'm only interested in one of all the LIs, then the game won't interest me. So I prefer to spend my time on one that is a harem and has a greater chance of interesting me.

Otherwise, when I downloaded it it put harem among the future tags, and when I started playing it before, the tag was still there. I haven't seen if it's been removed now or if it's still there.
 

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I looked at the game files and unfortunately, It's written in Italian with an English translation. A lot of modders won't touch a game that isn't written in English as the primary language.
Thank you for looking into it at least. Appreciated
 
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Spfjolietjake

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The Harem question was hit on here and the Dev responded:
https://f95zone.to/threads/monster-college-v0-5-8-monster-eye-games.163962/post-11669729

It appears we will get the chance to have somewhat of a harem, but with whom and how he would not say. Enjoy the game as it is folks. I know I will. :>)
That wouldn't be harem, but rather a throuple or a quad respectively. It would do well to remove harem from the planned tags if that is the case. To avoid frustration of being mislead.
 

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For me, simple cheating isn't enough for it to be classified as NTR. There has to be an element of blackmail and/or coercion involved. It has to feel like a molestation and/or rape that the victim ends up liking, almost against their will. I think NTR is the sexual version of Stockholm Syndrome.
 

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The Harem question was hit on here and the Dev responded:
https://f95zone.to/threads/monster-college-v0-5-8-monster-eye-games.163962/post-11669729

It appears we will get the chance to have somewhat of a harem, but with whom and how he would not say. Enjoy the game as it is folks. I know I will. :>)
Then the dev should remove the harem tag from the planned tags list then. Yes its not on the list of current tags but it is in his list of planned tags which means he is telling people that this will be a harem game. What he has described there is a throuple & not a harem. He really needs to fix his planned tags because it's very misleading & has created a lot of confusion. I'm just glad I found out now before I pledged to his Patreon.
 

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NTR basically is one in a relationship KNOWS the other is cheating and is active witness to that.
That usually happens via active watching and usually by "allowing" the other to cheat or even initiate that him/herself.

For that reason Rachels father and mother come awfully close to NTR already, because the father watched/listened transformed as a bat.

Since Rachel is a vampire it can't be ruled out she followed MC in hunt mode/bat form and saw MC "helping" Sophia.



In very simple terms the main difference is knowledge.
If the partner has no clue about the cheating it is ... well cheating.
If the partner is aware of the cheating, watches or initiated it it basically is NTR.
NTR in this site is usually used from MC's PoV.

Out of topic, but I really don't know why so many people thought that there needs to be an official relationship for NTR to work. Many hentais like Otome Dori wouldn't be classified as NTR if that's the case.
 
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For me, simple cheating isn't enough for it to be classified as NTR. There has to be an element of blackmail and/or coercion involved. It has to feel like a molestation and/or rape that the victim ends up liking, almost against their will. I think NTR is the sexual version of Stockholm Syndrome.
NTR in this site is usually used from MC's PoV.

Out of topic, but I really don't know why so many people thought that there needs to be an official relationship for NTR to work. Many hentais like Otome Dori wouldn't be classified as NTR if that's the case.
That is why I pointed to the most basic form of it.
There are extremes in this category which you both mentioned.


Oh and btw:
No relationship = no cheating.
And as said in the most basic form NTR is Cheating+
 

BlasKyau

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Right now the harem tag is still among the future ones. It should be changed to avoid misunderstandings like the one that happened to me.
 

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Hmm. It was never going to be a harem game as far as I knew. It always felt like solo paths to me as for a wt mod: maybe Sancho1969 might pick it up.
Good morning. TBH, I've never played this VN nor even heard of it. That said I'm not sure I have it in me to do another "Uni" genre VN in my public catalaog as I already have the other 3 heavy-hitters that I maintain. What happened to the existing mod? No need for me to eyeball if there's already one in production (regardless of it's quality). Regards.
 
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Good morning. TBH, I've never played this VN nor even heard of it. That said I'm not sure I have it in me to do another "Uni" genre VN in my public catalaog as I already have the other 3 heavy-hitters that I maintain. What happened to the existing mod? No need for me to eyeball if there's already one in production (regardless of it's quality). Regards.
He was asking because there is no mod available and as far as can be deduced no mod in development.

And btw. I guess it was only a suggestion. If you are "fully booked" already I don't think it would be wise to cram this game on top of that.
You are "only" the most prominent modder that's why he thought of you ...
 

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He was asking because there is no mod available and as far as can be deduced no mod in development.

And btw. I guess it was only a suggestion. If you are "fully booked" already I don't think it would be wise to cram this game on top of that.
You are "only" the most prominent modder that's why he thought of you ...
Looking a bit deeper, I see... this is a fairly new VN release by (I assume) new dev. It being new won't take me too long to eyeball and see how organized and written the base code is... I might take a gander, we'll see. Seems you folks are a bit impressed so there has to be a reason why so you've perked my curiosity. I'll DL it in the background and see what's what.
 

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:ROFLMAO::LOL::p

Now I see why no one else "jumped" on this thing before I was called in to look. It's written completely in Italian. I currently have a few VN's I mod on that 100% coded in non-English language and they can certainly be a challenge because of that. The dev has also broken every single scene per "chapter" (there's six of them total) into separate script files. So, there's about 74 or so files that must be combed through instead of just one. Wow. Doable but with much work to organize and convert all the menu choices across all those files.
 

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Proof of concept only, no promises due to the language barrier
(I'm Texan so it's a real bitch for me to code other languages. First-world problems, ain't it?)

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It will be a wish come true if you or any other modder could do this, I mean it is really a good game, up there with the big ones considering characters, story and no slouch update cycle. I know the language barrier can be a big obstacle, still wishful thinking. :) Currently the game scenes are all unlockable with a bit of thinking, but still due to stats being invisible without mods it is hard to tell if one can remain on a chosen path or not in the long run. Thank you for your effort so far. :)
 
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