Celaviegroup

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HELP, I'm stuck at 31/65 while I can't improve my relationship with Anett more than fairly good, and no further scenes but taking shower, pool play, and relax
Did you succeed to spy on all the girls in the morning?
 

Celaviegroup

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Hey any help would be great. I'm seriously stuck at 47/65 and can't advance.

- I can spy on all 4 girls in the morning to the completion of scene.
- All 4 morning visits are now repeating.
- All shower scenes are repeating; Sam still won't join me, but she'll let me dry myself off.
- I've selected all 3 options with all 4 girls in the pool game, and chosen both correct and incorrect names.
- My "Talk" scenes with each girl are repeating, but not saying "end of content for Ep4".
- My spy-in-bath visits all have "end of content" messages.
- My spy-in-bed scenes all have "end of content" messages.
- Going to the pool before bed has April swimming around before saying "Satisfied?" before walking away.
- Evening shower scenes are repeating too.

- If I ask April how our relationship is at night, I get redirected back to "What do you want to know?" If I ask in the morning she says "Good."
All other girls say "Good" at all times.
Can you upload your save file and I'll guide you
 

Celaviegroup

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Sorry, I have neither the time nor the patience to do the same thing 15 times with no indication that there will be any reward. Seeing the same thing after repeating an action or string of actions over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is just too boring.
If you can't proceed at all - it might be that you haven't asked the girls to proceed or just click around without reading the dialogues. My suggest is to follow the instructions - if you do so the grind in the first episodes will almost disappear
 

Ag-Ab

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Did you succeed to spy on all the girls in the morning?
Yes I did, by searching through the images folder supposedly I can proceed to the model scene, and what I'm suspecting now is because I skipped to the ep. 4 manually due to I can't proceed from ep. 3 to 4 from my old saves
 
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gopherino

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Audience is restricted... Sure. Developer's approach alienates more than half of the players. Some of us are looking for good graphics and story, and not game (aka grind for points). Just look at the game's rating, 2,5 stars when this could be 4 star game if grind was reduced to minimum. This approach is hurtful to developer's monetary gains, but still he does this over and over again. Perhaps he should sometimes try to make traditional VN and then compare the results against his other games.
You probably don't realize how huge CeLaVie's fanbase is. Very little shows up on F95 or Patreon. Check the rest of the web relating to porn or porn games. The complainer's on F95 are mostly those who don't play efficiently and therefore don't enjoy the games that much. I don't think CeLaVie cares that much about the monetary gains, as he is using the Patreon system of delay-by-weeks which probably doesn't matter much for his fans. They wait months before he gets to sex scenes, what's a few more weeks in the release schedule. Let's just try and encourage him to continue and maybe expand his staff so he doesn't burn out. I rank him in the highest level of dev based on how enjoyable the games are.
 
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ayy

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Audience is restricted... Sure. Developer's approach alienates more than half of the players. Some of us are looking for good graphics and story, and not game (aka grind for points). Just look at the game's rating, 2,5 stars when this could be 4 star game if grind was reduced to minimum. This approach is hurtful to developer's monetary gains, but still he does this over and over again. Perhaps he should sometimes try to make traditional VN and then compare the results against his other games.
Nah traditional VNs are boring. Why should the dev shift focus to something he hasn't tried yet? Hes clearly established a niche, so his focus should go towards how to make his games more fun while simultaneously reducing grind/complaints. Personally I like the built in quasi-RNG aspect of events in his games. Just hits the rewards center different. All Bob needs to focus on IMO, in this game, is to give the girls personality and individualize events based off that, and to detangle his spaghetti coding.

These models are the best ones hes made to date, so I am well onboard for future updates and releases. If Bob were to add some semblance of story with his signature gameplay style (imo MBFD1 does this really well) in his next project while maintaining a high quality in his LI models, then by god I might have to increase my support for him very few other games hit the same way. VNs just feel too run of the mill nowadays.
 

gopherino

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Nah traditional VNs are boring. Why should the dev shift focus to something he hasn't tried yet? Hes clearly established a niche, so his focus should go towards how to make his games more fun while simultaneously reducing grind/complaints. Personally I like the built in quasi-RNG aspect of events in his games. Just hits the rewards center different. All Bob needs to focus on IMO, in this game, is to give the girls personality and individualize events based off that, and to detangle his spaghetti coding.

These models are the best ones hes made to date, so I am well onboard for future updates and releases. If Bob were to add some semblance of story with his signature gameplay style (imo MBFD1 does this really well) in his next project while maintaining a high quality in his LI models, then by god I might have to increase my support for him very few other games hit the same way. VNs just feel too run of the mill nowadays.
There's more to like about Celavie games than immediately comes to mind. Celavie does rendering gorgeously, but he puts several views in a row without any text interruption. This means you have 2 seconds to appreciate his work and no way to get back and dwell on it. I have played games where there is one viewscreen with 50 changes of text. Now that is boring! Celavie goes the other direction, so many great views and renders but limited time to appreciate them. How about a little clock in the dialog box for those of us who want to just admire the work. Either click the clock to proceed, or click the clock to hold. Plus some way to step back if you missed clicking in the two seconds Celavie allows for viewing his handiwork.
 
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gopherino

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If you are sharing a bunch of Patreon subscriptions, Zoom works great if you enjoy playing together. No need to gather around a huge display. Just have one person play the game, lock his screen to the Zoom display, and everybody else at home can chime in with suggestions. Only good for sensible people, probably.
 

gopherino

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Celavie says this in Patreon:

I didn't made a WT for episode 5 - simply because it's straight forward and WT is not needed at all. Bet that Gold and Master members can confirm it. Episode 6 will also be straight forward. As soon as the game is no longer straight forward I'll make a WT.

This is true. Ep 5 runs directly up to Bookmark 92 with no interruptions, no complicated tricks, no need for anything except following the simple directions. The little face icon in the upper left corner is not there anymore, and is not needed. The little face icons in the lower right corner still come up, but there is no new information in them; they can be ignored. It took 3 hours to go from Bookmark 1 to 92, and it could have been done a little faster with more CTRL skipping. Near the end, the only thing giving new bookmarks is the visits in the morning, so you can CTRL through the pool stuff, which is the only other activity going on near the end of the episode. Great renders, as usual. Ignore the SAVE requests at the end of each day as there are really no bugs to be found. Amazing job by the Alpha Team.
 

JoeBeans

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Well damn...Doc Bob sure is lucky he's only a game character, anyone else living in episode five would have died from a seriously bad case of blue balls :p
 

RustyV

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I like that the girls are interested in each other and the MC is helping them hook up. Personally I wouldn't mind if he just banged his old girlfriend and encouraged the girls to keep switching partners.
I usually wait until Celaviegroup's games have a completed tag before I play them as the games are addictive. Once you start you want to play thought to the end.
 

Ali ibn Hassan

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I like that the girls are interested in each other and the MC is helping them hook up. Personally I wouldn't mind if he just banged his old girlfriend and encouraged the girls to keep switching partners.
I usually wait until Celaviegroup's games have a completed tag before I play them as the games are addictive. Once you start you want to play thought to the end.
When Julia's away on a business trip, what's an old pervert to do but perv on the teeny boppers
 

Recouper

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Hey Celaviegroup your game is pretty good man. You're doing well.
The hottest character in a game that I ever saw was in Bad Memories by recreation, his character 'Rachel' was on fire. Now, you've created characters that are hot, sure. But, the interactions, surroundings and circumstances give the impression that boundaries are being pushed out and attitudes are being challenged and reshaped. It's exciting. Despite the grind, it is exciting. So, just saying; good job.
 
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