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Nao was ordered to sleep with Chinnen because MC cummed inside her without Shiobara's permission, that's one line Shiobara drew, that one was actually pretty clear imo, even Misaki said Masashi is being punished. And there's also a career angle, at this point Chinnen moved up a lot in hierarchy of Aida's construction.
In general I think you underestimate how submissive Nao is towards Shiobara before he lands in jail, a lot of that is her feeling of guilt about "cheating" on him, she doesn't consider her feelings nearly as much as Shiobara's orders.
In general I think you underestimate how submissive Nao is towards Shiobara before he lands in jail, a lot of that is her feeling of guilt about "cheating" on him, she doesn't consider her feelings nearly as much as Shiobara's orders.
I see your point but in the MC's defense, he didn't have a choice, he begged Nao to get off him because he couldn't avoid cumming forever. He was restrained, I believe and therefore there was nothing in his power that he could've done and Nao stubbornly refused to get off of him. So if we're actually being fair then it wasn't the MC's fault, you can't be blamed for something you have no control over but it seems that Shiobara was that much of an unreasonable person.
Is it still possible for the MC to get together with Misaki in either of those endings (such as END 9 & END 11)? If they had a heart to heart and talked things out? Would the MC need to reveal the owner as a scumbag for her to get together with the MC?
Shiobara is not really a paragon of rationality, as long as they broke his rules they deserved to be punished. At this point Nao did have feelings for the MC so it was probably partly a punishment for her as well.
A lot of things are open to interpretation but personally I don't see how he'd get back with Misaki apart from Fin 2, too many unresolved feelings without the work they've put to get their marriage back on track and the longer they were apart the harder it would be probably.
A lot of things are open to interpretation but personally I don't see how he'd get back with Misaki apart from Fin 2, too many unresolved feelings without the work they've put to get their marriage back on track and the longer they were apart the harder it would be probably.
Maybe but it's no reason not to try. Especially when it seems like he doesn't have all that much to lose with how his life was going, especially when the alternative is just being lonely and miserable. Better late than never, I always say.
Also an important thing to note: there are certain key events that might make it easier to understand the overall branching. For instance:
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What does this sentence mean, in the attached picture? What does Misaki mean by it's open? What's open?
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I'm not up to anwsering everything point by point like last time (too tedious) but i feel like you're mixing up some routes and how it affects the characters. In FIN 1 the MC is almost completely dependend on Shiobara (according to Shiobara's plan). The results are:
- More dependancy on Shiobara
- Masashi gets closer to Nao romantically, irrespective of Shiobara's wishes
- Shiobara takes over most of the business
- Reconciliation with Misaki is basically off limits
- Kurosawa and Chinnen are included in their circle according to Shiobara's wishes, it's helpful for business.
In FIN 2:
- Kurosawa and Chinnen are not in the picture
- MC developed a netori fetish but he's not super happy about it
- MC and Misaki defied Shiobara when it comes to inevitability of netori
- As a result of that, Masashi doesn't lose his company, he still has clients
- Masashi has a bright outlook for the future knowing Misaki is working hard to make their relationship work.
- More dependancy on Shiobara
- Masashi gets closer to Nao romantically, irrespective of Shiobara's wishes
- Shiobara takes over most of the business
- Reconciliation with Misaki is basically off limits
- Kurosawa and Chinnen are included in their circle according to Shiobara's wishes, it's helpful for business.
In FIN 2:
- Kurosawa and Chinnen are not in the picture
- MC developed a netori fetish but he's not super happy about it
- MC and Misaki defied Shiobara when it comes to inevitability of netori
- As a result of that, Masashi doesn't lose his company, he still has clients
- Masashi has a bright outlook for the future knowing Misaki is working hard to make their relationship work.
I see now so in FIN 1, Shiobara allowed the MC to be around Nao because it was serving his own goals/ends. It helped manipulate and control the MC and benefit Shiobara in various ways, such as his own pleasure, his ambition, his desire for control, humiliating the MC, reviving his own ability to have sex, etc.
Although off limits or not, The MC did achieve some reconciliation with Misaki when the MC confronted Misaki alone a week before the end. The moment was very significant for me. Since Misaki fell in love with the MC all over again. They could have at that point worked to repair their relationship, but then there was a one week time skip so we don't know precisely what happened during that week, but Misaki's and the MC's relationship was improved.
I think it's Netorase, rather than Netori because Netori is the MC stealing someone else's girl, if I'm not mistaken?
I wanted to ask about one of the last few statements the MC made before the end of FIN 2. "The MC felt like he had regained everything that he lost in his life. That's right. Except for one thing. It was like an irritating scab inside of him. No matter how much he rubbed, it wouldn't come off." Was that the thing the desire to sneakily watch his wife entertain male guests while scantily dressed, when they were seemingly alone together? Because it gets both him and his wife excited, and yet he doesn't need for the guests to actually sleep with his wife? I was a bit confused about that because we seen earlier that they were able to have amazing sex without anyone else, and Misaki stated that she didn't want to sleep with anyone else nor did she intend to. So I wanted to confirm if there was no sex being had between the guests and Misaki anymore and if the small bit of voyeurism of watching them talk and possibly flirt was the extent of it?
Also the credits rolling after FIN 2, seem to suggest that FIN 2 maybe the canon ending? Or does it do that for the other endings if you complete the game in a different order?
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CMIIW, i think i remember the lines from Japanese version. But basically Misaki saying she finally can feel Masashi dick touch her G-spot because previously he can't (because his was short).
How did that happen? Did he grow bigger somehow? Or did her pussy adapt to him because of the power of love?
I think this is the first time they had sex while she is "reporting her sex with another man". The previous scene was him just eating her out.
So this just further emphasizes his netorare fetish, he's more aroused by the situation.
Or Misaki maybe just got better at leading the sex, she knows or learned how to adapt her movements so that she can feel the MC
Exactly, FIN 2 is all about satisfying both Misaki's exhibitionist and humilation fetish and Masashi's cuckloding fetish as a fuel for their sex life without crossing the cheating boundary. I'd like to think FIN 2 is cannon (and it kind of is as implied in next Elf Games) but it all comes down to the decision if you forgive Misaki or not.
I personally think he does forgive her canonically, throughout the ending the game makes it pretty clear that the protagonist was making a mistake when he chooses the do not forgive option with multiple statements and hints to that end. The MC becomes so delusional and in denial throughout it, it was quite sad. In the end when he meets Misaki, he himself admits that he made a mistake and would wish to go back in time and warn his past self to never give up. The game doesn't hide the fact that it was the wrong choice in the slightest.
There were other decent endings but most of those were either stopping Aida in the early stages, or getting together with Nao when Shiobara is you know where, that one is not too bad for the protagonist, but not good at all for Misaki. FIN 2 was the only confirmed way to get Misaki back after she spent 4 years with Aida. Some of the other endings have the potential possibility to get her back but the MC fails most of those because he doesn't properly talk to her and try to get back together, well FIN 1 he almost succeeds but then he himself breaks due to Shiobara's shenanigans.
Should I share my timeline for the game that I made so far?
Could be or perhaps it was also that Misaki feels especially sensitive around the MC, It was mentioned by Misaki in FIN 1 that she felt things more when he was around and became more sensitive and she would always pay attention to where he was at all times. She also had very powerful orgasms when they did it for the first time in years there too. Except that the MC didn't even have to move or do anything more than insert his dick in order for her to climax continuously. I think what occurred is that because of her intense love for the MC, her womb went down so he didn't need to be all that big to hit the entrance to her womb, so he was able to match and exceed the pleasure that all of the other guys gave her, without the need for size or skill or experience. I guess they were both so turned on that it compensated for all the MC's lacking in that department.
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So I decided to post what I had so far of the timeline that I worked hard on for this game. I will put it in spoiler tags to avoid spoiling the game. I hope people will find it useful. It's a WIP, so feel free to point out any mistakes and comment. Thank you!:
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Bro reading this gave me assignment flashbacks my god!!! I will read this tommorrow. This is actually well-detailed btw.
Thank you very much! I really enjoyed the game and I spent alot of time trying to compile as much information about it as I could. I hope you (and everyone else who reads it) enjoy it, and it is helpful, and let me know your thoughts about it when you get a chance to read it
I have only read a few stanzas so far its been a busy time these past few days. I should be free to read in a day or two.Thank you very much! I really enjoyed the game and I spent alot of time trying to compile as much information about it as I could. I hope you (and everyone else who reads it) enjoy it, and it is helpful, and let me know your thoughts about it when you get a chance to read it