i think she has an office sex fantasy or public sex with risk of getting caught and maybe will see some or atleast in her dream, something like this
Keep Johny out of this! he would be playing Hutch in the movie.
exactly what my thoughts.
this is a dark path for vivian not hutch so it can be considered dark in a way that the dev describes as having a bad ending.since she is the 1st of the 2 protagonists in the vn.
we know that hutch has a stable marriage without any problems for 22 years so we can speculate that he was quite good until now.
in relation to my above point. hutch worked for christian for 6 years. and in the open part of the vn see the animations and the corresponding script. the dev is clearly showing the hutch was sure of his clients. and we may know later on about where hutch might have worked in future updates ... hence my theory is that its not hutch's fault but christian trying to find a scapegoat which happens to be hutch since christian is a manipulator and has got all he can from hutch. in context of 6 years working with hutch christian never knew about vivian so he was sure he would be able to let hutch and getaway clean from his screwup.
people keep saying wining and dining ... but in most cases this only happens after a deal is done not to get clients... thats for those who didn't know how most sales execs do it.... dunno about the rest of you in the chat but in my experience that's how we did it... and this is a avn so yes i will let it be that any one can just google and any one can do it... but there are some real life logic slipped into that between those extreme logic breaks that make us theorise and talk about it so much.. which is a major+ for me. tips hat to the dev. and to your 2nd point in a 2 company market it has no value its the profit margins that come into play. if you think that it's not they its you choice but we'll leave it at that.
it has everything to do with the clients ... chrisitan is just the first they try the wine and dine strategy. and another logic break is vivian going to talk with christian and saying hutch will come and invite you to dinner is in itself never happens dunno if anyone can relate to this. vivian saying so shows that its something they are experimenting with and dunno how to execute that game plan. and chrisitan would have seen through that.
we know for sure that there are only 2 competing companies in that market. hence its usually the profit margin what decides the loss and acquisition of clients. and hutch has has worked in this company for 6 years....and most companies they dont and never use long term plans so as to have a bargaining chip for improving their returns. im sorry i maybe going down the rabbit hole a bit but people comenting about managing clients is all about the numbers in a 2 company market and 2nd the head of the company's head namely chrisitan.so real world logic aside just in terms of the avn the dev just give us bare minimum info and with a health dose of porn logic. and in regards to y the clients didnt inform hutch .... its a obvious answer. or else read my comment again.
yes he did when was referencing to the post about a render he made for his previous game or something similar. there are many ways that it can be dark from the pov of the protatgonists like in the a hutch being confident scenario its vivians dark path as she will lose it all.which she realizes after being caught and talks about it in the parking lot with christian. no directly talking and calling her husband.that in itself is dark for the husband who has known about her infedility since start.
we know christian is a manipulator player and all round ahole you think he will say i messed up and you have to wipe my ass as i made a shit of things by loosing the best clients by fucking around with their wives. we know the company has 6 offices each for different division from the game dialogue. and chrisitan also mentions moving hutch to accounting which can be a different location... this is real world logic now some companies who are mid size and above compartmentalise their operations. so having different offices for defferent roles in very effecient. and being the only 2 compience in the sector/field/area that they are in they have high profit margins to have multiple offices which inturn implies they have good accountants who in this case in hutch. hence wine and dine isnt requireed here. and the reason no one know about hutch's 10/10 wifi. and since the big accounts are lost the boss know that he can kick hutch as he can nothing more to gain from him. which maxwell might have seen more than once and jumps to that conclusion as does hutch.
nope christian was the first they would try the wine and dine plan on and vivian going to talk to hutch's boss about it that it self show she didnt read the whole plan that she googled and or she has only1 or maybe no brain cells.Wine&dine is not for the customers/clients, it was only planed to persuade Christian.
nice summary and i have to say those three endings were the ones i see as most likely happening and if its the 3rd then i will hate it. any way to read your works. ty.
the last interaction in the update where hutch again is saying let him be the man of the house which was used earlier by vivian when she take matter into her(pun intended). the code talk the script is clear at first saying do it but when hutch say let him be the man of the house and after he say don't do it or do it it's up to you vivian should have opted out and said that she wouldn't but we all know that if she did that would be the end of the vn. since we don't have choices hutch keeps giving vivian a way out but she keep make all the wrong choices. which in turn goes back to christian counseling/manipulating hutch at the carpark. the first 2 statement might be more accurate to the story in future updates than anyone thinks.... that's how i feel from how the dev weaves the feelings the manipulations the logic(real world and porn game).and regarding your last statement that's more close to real life i think. and which is why we are going nuts on the theories and reasoning.
relax bud..... everyone has their views and ideas and thoughts we are here sharing them. so lets keep the theories rolling and the possibilities "OPEN".
the dev said so himself that it's his hobby project and doesn't have the resources to do more like he stated in one of his posts. but fingers crossed he might do a touch up or rework this avn with more sfx at a later date.
Correct! (More below.)
Also correct, to be fair!
Where does that come from? I don't think we have anything that sets a limit on it...
As per the screenshots, it's a plan to "show the human side" - see below, from the script:
They're going to "practice what they preach" - do for Christian what they're suggesting they do for the clients. It's all the same thing.
Now you see it! Wine and dine the clients
You would do it both before and after - one as part of the sales pitch, showing the customer your human side and trying to get them over the line to sign the contracts. Then you keep them sweet afterwards, keep showing them that you appreciate them and care about them as humans, basically working to keep them as your clients. It all depends on the scope of the business and the product. If it's something with a large amount of money tied into it, you would pull out all the stops and look to make the prospective client your friend (not literally, but just being on good terms with them) so they bring their business to you. You won't win them all, because your rivals are no doubt doing the exact same thing, but you'll get some of them. I've been on some of those events with prospective clients in the past, and I've been to very similar events with existing clients. The only difference was we'd be a bit less stuffy with the existing clients, because we already have a relationship, whereas we're still building one with the prospective clients.
Is that a bug though? What needs to be fixed?
have to agree with you on that. i'm not debating the statements in relation to real life ... im talking about it from the vn point of view which is the porn logic. and yes having worked in sales hr and tech i know that there are different approaches to different problems ... my beef with this logic is that everyone assumes its hutch's fault when it comes to sales and losing clients. but its not. especially where there are only 2 companies vying for the clients and and in a business sector where one of the 2 companies can afford to have 6 offices. in this setting they aren't trying to get clients but maintaining them. hence my point is that the wife who has no idea what she is doing thinks that she know better and goes behind her husband's back to the boss. now after speculating so much i feel like i'm rping...and again ill state my theory for this wonderfully crafted game is that is was all christian's fault for fucking around with the wives of clients at such wine and dine events. this is not just my theory other members have posted this as well. apologies to those who may think i'm pirating your theory. and leaning into this theory if/when/by chance vivian learns about this mistake of christian .... all that vivian did till then will be for her benefit and not for marriage or for hutch. which can be a very dark in itself.
can you link your theories please... big fan of fan fic theories.A lot of good theories. We just have to wait for the next update before hopefully we get some answers - good or bad (or bad or good, depending on which way you look at it).
Vivian is primarily the main MC in this game (obvious by the shear content she has, as well as the title). So I can only assume any dark ending would be in relation to her. I'll still go with my one
Well, you could just search for that. It's penciled in to be every 4 months, so expect an update around June/July that kind of time. Yeah, it's a bit of time, so play other games in the meantime.
I believe he gave an estimate of approximately 4 months to complete the next update.
I like NTR games where there are no worries, where the girl doesn't talk about how much she loves her husband (boyfriend), and then fucks a bunch of men, and after each fuck sits around and worries that she did something wrong. Here, for some reason, they decided to emphasise on emotions, but I don't believe in Vivian's worries. I only believe in Hutch's emotions, just a little bit. Because there's a lot of words about love, but no actions that confirm it. Only actions that confirm what a bitch Vivian is to her husband.
