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You should have linked them to Happy Summer instead.
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Yeah, dev is kind of a douche canoe. Insta-blocked me for a rule he said I broke that wasn't written down anywhere.
He should update MLS to "fuck all you paying supporters who are only here because of MLS, I want to make the meaningless, boredom laden grind of Happy Summer instead".
- Jun 24, 2018
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Why would anyone still support him for MLS? He clearly said that MLS isn't in his mind anymore.
- Oct 13, 2016
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yeah, those patrons should stop supporting him at once.
what CaizerGames did was a shitty thing to do, he used the support from the people that gave money to him to work on MLS and started another project, without giving care of that at all. sure, now all those patrons should quit to show protest, but i believe we have a bunch of them believing in the resurrection of MLS and also giving the dev trust because of the good work he did with MLS.
CaizerGames showed his true colors when he started the other crappy project, he doesnt care about the people that enjoyed MLS, he avoid any kind of discussion regarding that and show no interest in working with the community to give life of MLS, in some way or another, his responses are few and what I understand from it is that: its mine, don't touch my game, i may continue on it if i want, now go away.
its pity, since i like this theme, a naive girl getting corrupted bit by bit. i wish we could create our own mod of it, but for that we need the model-files first.
what CaizerGames did was a shitty thing to do, he used the support from the people that gave money to him to work on MLS and started another project, without giving care of that at all. sure, now all those patrons should quit to show protest, but i believe we have a bunch of them believing in the resurrection of MLS and also giving the dev trust because of the good work he did with MLS.
CaizerGames showed his true colors when he started the other crappy project, he doesnt care about the people that enjoyed MLS, he avoid any kind of discussion regarding that and show no interest in working with the community to give life of MLS, in some way or another, his responses are few and what I understand from it is that: its mine, don't touch my game, i may continue on it if i want, now go away.
its pity, since i like this theme, a naive girl getting corrupted bit by bit. i wish we could create our own mod of it, but for that we need the model-files first.
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I mean, there is people still supporting GumDrop and Aorta. I'm not surpised about it happening but it shouldn't be happening.
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The reason MLS isn't in Caizer's mind anymore is because he doesn't realize the importance of what we in the consulting industry call "the voice of the consumer".
He doesn't realize that the popularity of STS and DFD and DMD is based on what customers want. It's a typical developer fallacy - if you build a "gee whiz that's impressive" tool/app/whatever, people will beat a path to your door and buy it.
But people buy products they like. Not products the developers like.
And if you've ever corresponded with a developer personally, I can assure you the ones that are polite, and that listen - they're the ones consumers tend to gravitate towards.
Being an "IDGAF what you think" asshat just leads a dev to sit in his room, alone, resenting the success of others and dismissing competitors as inferior/low quality/lowest common denominator sellouts.
Not that I'd be saying that about any particular developer mentioned here, in this very comment, of course. Though I'm sure the unnamed-in-this-comment devs behind STS, DFD/DH and DMD are laughing all the way to the bank.
And Caizer is no doubt getting all the financial rewards he deserves in the exact timeline he deserves it.
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I didn't dig around for Caizer's quotes on MLS - but maybe if Caizer publicly dropped it then Pepé Le Pew can change the prefix on this to "Abandoned" if Caizer has indeed abandoned it. Had I known it was abandoned, I'd never have played it, and never have pledged any $.
Abandoning a popular game may be an ignorant decision, but it's hardly a morally bankrupt one.
But pretending you didn't abandon a popular game, and posting it as a split banner on top of your Patreon page so it gets equal billing with your one, current, live project? That's a dishonest one.
Some people might even say it borders on being a fraudulent misrepresentation.
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The original reason he stopped working on this was so he could hire someone to port it to Renpy, thats his next goal on patreon but he is never going to reach it. He is currently at 213 patrons, which is quite surprising but he is only 40% to his goal. So, he needs to more than double his patrons. The thing is, someone already ported it to Renpy, its in this thread, so he could easily forgo that goal and just use that fan Renpy remake as a starting point.
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exactly jamdan, I posted that in his discord but he just deleted my message, and Munkey did try to talk to the dev, and also told him that he can use it however he wishes, but the dev sad he want to do it himself, reason, he want to make new renders and also make the scripts from scratch.
Caizer doesn't want free help, even if the helper is an expert. he want to work on his HS project and put MLS in a hostage situation, that seems like borderline blackmailing the people that loves MLS. give me money or u will never see MLS again.
Caizer doesn't want free help, even if the helper is an expert. he want to work on his HS project and put MLS in a hostage situation, that seems like borderline blackmailing the people that loves MLS. give me money or u will never see MLS again.
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And what length of time do you give Caizer to actually show he meant 'on hold' and not 'I want the money from people who like MLS so I don't want to say it's abandoned'?
Not to say that he's doing this. But how long does a thing stay on hold before you declare it abandoned?
6 months? 8? 10?
I don't think his mind is really on happy summer all that much either considering how small each of these updates are at least my lovely Sara has more content per updates. If I would of been a supporter and he dumped the game I was there for I would of dumped them like a hot potato.
- Apr 27, 2017
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Correct me if i am wrong as i am no longer pledged to either of them but it was my understanding that caizer was working with ptolymy and one other game dev. Back when i was pledged to caizer and ptolymy he stated he was working more on ptolomy and the other guys games than his own as A. he needed to learn and B. he needed extra cash as game was not profitable .
Has that situation now changed? Because i swear i saw him mentioned in ptolomys recent releae and swear ptolomy is mentioned in happy summer aswell.
I do agree updates are far too small and despite the other 2 members of the trio offering help he has only accepted limited help from them up until i dropped him atleast. Its a strange arrangement tbh
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