- May 27, 2017
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I'm starting to dread the 'completed' tag more than 'abandoned' as the endings for a lot of these games contradict the previous gameplay and frankly ruin shit.
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Just not everyone agrees with you that happy ending was happy, for me it was the saddest ending of all. I even preferred the three cats ending for Nikki over that one for her sake. I know Sumo intended it as happy, just it did not feel that way.
- Nov 28, 2017
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I don't know how to feel about it.
On one hand this development is everything I wished for, on the other I feel Sumo for all the stress and pressure this put him through.
On one hand this development is everything I wished for, on the other I feel Sumo for all the stress and pressure this put him through.
Well, really good game... successfully ruined by the dev who tried to be original by selling some moralistic shit... As a result, there is no good choice.
One bad ending with boring cow material (with or without cheating, however it's a bad ending for me) and the other - sad endings with some pathetic, bullshit regret. Cher idiot (dev), non, je ne regrette rien... as the old song says
Being single is better than living in a (toxic) relationship with someone you don't even like.
One bad ending with boring cow material (with or without cheating, however it's a bad ending for me) and the other - sad endings with some pathetic, bullshit regret. Cher idiot (dev), non, je ne regrette rien... as the old song says
Being single is better than living in a (toxic) relationship with someone you don't even like.
So reading the author's post in patreon it seems that there wasn't a Nikki ending just because he said earlier that it wouldn't be one and he wanted to do something "different", despite that being the direction the characters seemed to be naturally heading in. It's good to follow your own plot and choices but sometimes characters evolve and go to other ways than what you planned. Let's hope that now he is planning on updating the game more, one of the endings include Nikki, since he knows that not including one was a "mistake".
I'm not sure that having Skylar or Sarah in other game after appearing here will be a good thing, but well your story, your call. I myself am not a fan of having Skylar in other game where she could be with other MC or who knows, maybe other guys, when you can't even end with her in this game. Having familiar faces of other games, it isn't always a good thing, it can even ruin a character that you liked in the other game just because you want to include that character in the new game because you like said character. But that's just my opinion.
I'm not sure that having Skylar or Sarah in other game after appearing here will be a good thing, but well your story, your call. I myself am not a fan of having Skylar in other game where she could be with other MC or who knows, maybe other guys, when you can't even end with her in this game. Having familiar faces of other games, it isn't always a good thing, it can even ruin a character that you liked in the other game just because you want to include that character in the new game because you like said character. But that's just my opinion.
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I'm sure it is, but there are other games out here that deserve attention too, and seeing as this is gonna get another big update with some fixes and alternative endings, I'm in no rush.
Still, I'll stay in touch and see what happens in the coming months
- Dec 29, 2018
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So I played the final update in hopes of one last scene with Mrs Sollain, because she was one of my two favourite characters in the game (the other being Cory) and the visit to her house is what I consider to the be high point of the game.
While I did get one final hurrah with Mrs Sollain, it was actually quite disappointing due to the way the scene was written. There was none of the passion Taylor had shown during their time together at her house where he had said "I've been attracted to you for as long as I can remember" and told her that "You coming into my room that day was a dream come true". During that scene he had also thought to himself that "Her body is pretty much MILF perfection."
So how does Taylor react to her coming into his room to seduce him once more? He thinks to himself "Should I have sex with the old lady?". Not exactly the enthusiastic response I would've expected considering the previous choices I made in the game. Then there's this really awkward moment where Mrs Sollain screams out "Fucking fuck me like you fuck those college sluts!!", followed by Taylor's inner monologue of "I can only think to myself: Those college sluts have names and feelings and identities beyond just being a slut." Which is weird for several reasons.
First off, they're supposed to be keeping the noise down, so she shouldn't be shouting anything. Secondly, Taylor has never shown the sightest bit of respect for any of the college girls in this game. He has constantly followed his sister's advice, which was to tell them whatever lies were necessary to get in their pants. Finally, doesn't Mrs Sollain have feelings and an identity beyond just being an old lady?
The epilogue for Mrs Sollain is also very poorly done, she ends up pregnant and then raises her child with Taylor's mom. She keeps her the identity of the father a secret, which is extremely hard to believe since you would think that Taylor's mom might want to know if the kid they're raising together is her grandchild. After all, she did catch her son in bed with Mrs Sollain, so she's got to at least suspect something. The author claimed that this was the most logical ending for Mrs Sollain but I don't buy it.
Even if the author didn't want to make a picture perfect ending with a wedding and the works, they still could've thrown the fans a bone by leaving the ending a bit open. Something like have Taylor be unsure of what the future will hold but also having him determined to visit her whenever he gets a break in his study schedule. There was no need for every non-Molly route to end with him forever alone. Mrs Sollain even said that she was really impressed with the man Taylor had become when she was with him at Christmas, so that's at least something to work with. I mean, Nikki marrying Marc made zero sense but that got put in the game.
While I did get one final hurrah with Mrs Sollain, it was actually quite disappointing due to the way the scene was written. There was none of the passion Taylor had shown during their time together at her house where he had said "I've been attracted to you for as long as I can remember" and told her that "You coming into my room that day was a dream come true". During that scene he had also thought to himself that "Her body is pretty much MILF perfection."
So how does Taylor react to her coming into his room to seduce him once more? He thinks to himself "Should I have sex with the old lady?". Not exactly the enthusiastic response I would've expected considering the previous choices I made in the game. Then there's this really awkward moment where Mrs Sollain screams out "Fucking fuck me like you fuck those college sluts!!", followed by Taylor's inner monologue of "I can only think to myself: Those college sluts have names and feelings and identities beyond just being a slut." Which is weird for several reasons.
First off, they're supposed to be keeping the noise down, so she shouldn't be shouting anything. Secondly, Taylor has never shown the sightest bit of respect for any of the college girls in this game. He has constantly followed his sister's advice, which was to tell them whatever lies were necessary to get in their pants. Finally, doesn't Mrs Sollain have feelings and an identity beyond just being an old lady?
The epilogue for Mrs Sollain is also very poorly done, she ends up pregnant and then raises her child with Taylor's mom. She keeps her the identity of the father a secret, which is extremely hard to believe since you would think that Taylor's mom might want to know if the kid they're raising together is her grandchild. After all, she did catch her son in bed with Mrs Sollain, so she's got to at least suspect something. The author claimed that this was the most logical ending for Mrs Sollain but I don't buy it.
Even if the author didn't want to make a picture perfect ending with a wedding and the works, they still could've thrown the fans a bone by leaving the ending a bit open. Something like have Taylor be unsure of what the future will hold but also having him determined to visit her whenever he gets a break in his study schedule. There was no need for every non-Molly route to end with him forever alone. Mrs Sollain even said that she was really impressed with the man Taylor had become when she was with him at Christmas, so that's at least something to work with. I mean, Nikki marrying Marc made zero sense but that got put in the game.
- Nov 18, 2019
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This week I searched for complete games, I decided to test this one (when this still had the complete game tag), without seeing the comments to not have spoilers... I should have seen before I played it all.
Therefore. Could someone be kind enough to list all possible (current) endings?
Or from what I read from some previous comments. Basically, we only have a few important differences:
Therefore. Could someone be kind enough to list all possible (current) endings?
Or from what I read from some previous comments. Basically, we only have a few important differences:
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I think the thing with Ms Sollain is as much a bit of self-referential joking as anything else (at least the whole thing with the night-stand, sticking the dildo to the wall, etc), but it's also meant to illustrate a bit of real-world pathos-- it's quite possible for an inexperienced young man to be attracted to a pretty older lady, then go to college, get a little (or a lot) more life experience, then encounter the older lady again and realize... it's actually a bit weird for an older lady to seduce a much younger man like that.
What was weirder to me was her encountering Taylor and Nikki and having a threesome with them. That, I found rather harder to buy.
- May 10, 2018
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Not including a "together with Nikki" ending was not a mistake..dev was 100% consistent about that from the start..its player wish fulfillment that he change his story to suit them..the mistakes..IMHO(i've remained very quiet until now because i consider Sumodeine a really good all around nice guy and a friend) are having only one happy ending with too many unanswered questions..WTF happened with Cory?..that was a blunder..she was directly headed to main-dame end-dame status then poof..she's gone..no idea...Mrs S baby-blocking you out of your own child's life and shacking up with your mom is another blunder...and a really cruel AF one..finally hooking up with the perfect Sarah in the second last update only to have her vapourize also...and Skylar...the first dame i shouted LI for..poof...beyond Molly i saw 3 legit end-dames there ready and setup nice..Cory Sarah and Skylar...but i ended up alone and Nikki was fat with cats...Sumo used to hang out and chat alot on my Discord but suddenly stopped showing up..i'm thinking he burned out bad..or stressed bad and fell into a depression and just wanted to end this game fast and GTF away from it and here...i may be wrong..but the end was chopped bad and came off like a "just finish dammit!!" ok..i now said my piece i've been holding in for a week+ and i dont wanna hurt Sumo's feeling with what i said..who knows..maybe in the future he'll make a redo of the endings..or maybe not..right now..we have to accept what this and move on...
Still here, Rob. And not depressed!
Maybe you missed the book I wrote, but I addressed most of what you said in this public patreon post:
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The fact of the matter is: I'm not perfect and made mistakes (and I'll continue to make mistakes) and I'm currently working to fix them and other mistakes I made along the way. In the end, I want to make the best game I possibly can and I missed the mark with a lot of the ending.
- May 10, 2018
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i didnt read back far enough...my bad..Woodz just reemed me out for not seeing your post
i shall now go read said post and delete my rambling nonsense(maybe..my nonsense is epic AF!!!!)
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SO...now i wait for 2.0 (adjusts his "top ten updates i'm waiting for " list accordingly.....
(adjusts his "top ten updates i'm waiting for " list accordingly.....
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I played with all the possibilities and... Men...
I will try not to be so hard and still give my full opinion. I just want to make it clear before that, it is not my intention to attack something or anyone, but I will be quite sincere.
If the code for everything was difficult, don't add so many characters. The endings would have been much more satisfying if we only had Molly and Nikki. Because in the end, we didn't even have Nikki.
Of course there should be other girls, but not to the point where we would have any relationship with them for more than "one night". Of course, besides the blonde psycho.
Adding Sky even more in place of Jessica was such a mistake. Jessica would have saved a lot here, a complete character instead of two incomplete ones. Besides, Sky's story has no consistency at all. I read the reason, but it's just one more reason not to use Sky in this game. And in the end, they all ended up with an incomplete and unsatisfactory end.
About Nikki ... Look at my point of view, and what will be the point of view of anyone who plays this game from now on (especially if you think about putting it on Steam). You and others may have warned that Nikki and MC wouldn't have an ending together, but anyone who played after that didn't know it would be so. And nothing, I repeat, nothing in the game led to the belief that there would be no such end. After all, as is said at the end of the game, everyone expects that end for the simple reason that the two characters are the main characters, for the simple reason that it is the name of the game. And during the game we still have the explicit choice to leave her alone without having any other boyfriend. This is a huge tip that we chose this to eventually MC stay with Nikki. After all, why would we choose this so that in the end she would end up as the cat's aunt?
And let's face it, she's the best character in the game, of course most want her. Next time, don't spoil it or let the player's choice count for something.
It's nice to have at least one game where the ending is not so obvious, but that ending has to be a well done ending... Right?
One more detail I would like to add. Each character was different, with their own stories and everything, but the dialogues... If you remove the names and context, it will seem that everyone was the same person (because in reality they are, right lol). People speak differently, express themselves in different ways, speak different slang etc.
Anyway... For me, nothing here was satisfactory. But still, I would like to see a different result here because I see so much potential. It just needs to be harnessed correctly and completely. I am still looking forward to seeing the changes and how the game will look in the future. And, of course, it was really nice to see that the creator noticed some of his mistakes and sees no problem admitting and still wanting to fix them. GL.
Edit* Oh, one more thing!
Something has to be done about the "Fan-Made Walkthrough"! About the "gentleman/deviant points". Either he must be completely removed from the description or at least a note saying that such points no longer make any difference.
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- Dec 29, 2018
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The problem I have with Taylor losing interest in Mrs Sollain because he gets some experience with younger women, is that we didn't get to make that choice for Taylor. The player should get some control over how the player character acts and feels, and that was something that was really lacking in the second half of the game. As far as I can tell, this is just another example of the author taking full control of the player character in order to wall off options because they didn't want to follow through with all of the possibilities they created.
The threesome with Nikki was also something that I didn't like at all. Mrs Sollain had just got caught in bed with Taylor by Taylor's mother, who was not at all happy finding out that her best friend was sleeping with her son, so now Mrs Sollain goes right out and not only sleeps with her best friends son again, but also her best friends daughter as well. At the same time no less. So I didn't think that was a very realistic thing to happen, and I wouldn't have chosen it if I had any say in the matter because I never had any interest in Nikki. Especially not once Cory said that she wanted to be officially a couple.
Walling off options is reasonable (to a point) IMO for a writer-- you don't want to end up with a behemoth of a game simply because you explored ALL the options to their conclusion, unless that's precisely what you DO want to do as a game-designer. But if you're focusing more on a select few relationships, then it's not a bad thing to keep other relationships relatively shallow. It all depends on how much of a linear plot you want to have and the ultimate ending of the game that the writer has in mind, balancing that against what their best guess is of what the audience wants.
Going for the threesome though... ehhh, that was weird, I agree. Nikki and Taylor didn't necessarily need someone else to push them into doing stuff together, and given that we've already seen that Nikki is happy to put out with pretty much anybody, it didn't really have to be Mrs Sollain.
Now if Sumo had a mother/son encounter in mind, Mrs Sollain could've worked to set that up in the long run, but as it was? She's obviously just the "experienced first sexual partner" and IMO it was a bit odd to bring her back in like that, but not super out of place. First sexual experience, then you go have fun with other girls, but maybe you remember how good it was the first time, why not give it another spin, etc...
And I wish you were there to tell me that 2 YEARS AGO!!! WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU??!?!?!?! Could have saved me a lot of hassle...
I admit, that was straight up me biting off more than I could chew. Didn't realize how long/complex branching stories would be to develop, especially in the early stages of a game. 100% on me. Once I realized, the toothpaste was out of the tube and it's not like I could just kill them off
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i just wish i was as smart as you Dev's are in making these games .. i liked this one very much .. was just saying i was a little disappointed i could'nt end with Nikki .. but Molly is great alsoAnd I wish you were there to tell me that 2 YEARS AGO!!! WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU??!?!?!?! Could have saved me a lot of hassle...
I admit, that was straight up me biting off more than I could chew. Didn't realize how long/complex branching stories would be to develop, especially in the early stages of a game. 100% on me. Once I realized, the toothpaste was out of the tube and it's not like I could just kill them off
sorry damn typos arghh
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