larry5168

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> Tarot rarity goes: grey, green, blue, purple, orange
this is completely and utterly random color schema. how are we supposed to remember this?

should have gone with the rainbow colors ROYGBIV
Or given in a numerical manner.
Or written rarity levels (or at least abbreviated ones like [SR])
While I'm not going to get into the debate over whether it's yellow or orange I would have to disagree with it being a totally random colour scheme
I currently play three games on a daily basis
Azur Lane (What can I say I like Anime girls :D) which groups its ships as follows
Common - Grey
Rare - Blue
Elite - Purple
Yellow/Gold - Super Rare
Multi coloured - Ultra Rare

State of Survival and War Robots both use the same colour scheme as above the only difference with the colours in the game is that there is a green level so I wouldn't say it's random it seems to follow a kind of conventional scheme in games and it shouldn't need a rocket scientist to work it out
 

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While I'm not going to get into the debate over whether it's yellow or orange I would have to disagree with it being a totally random colour scheme
This goes into the definition of the word random.
If you want to split hairs then technically speaking just because something is used in multiple places does not mean it isn't random. a specific random pattern could be reused due to reference, familiarity, and plagiarism.

However, I don't want to split hairs.
which is why I explicitly conceded the point that random was a poor word choice on my part and even went so far as saying I was wrong.
Alright. fair enough.
It is "inspired by games. without actually matching any of them".
I was wrong to call it random
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Currently I am only still arguing with this one guy who insists that
"blue / UI colored -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> gold"
is "literally the same as"
"gray -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> orange -> yellow"

because unlike me, he is unable to admit when he made a mistake. edit: sorry that was uncalled for.

edit:
well either that, or he only skimmed my posts and when he quoted me saying
"it is [SW scheme], which is similar but not the exact same as [mystwood manner scheme]"
and replied with
"wrong, it is exactly [SW scheme]"

actually hey larry5168 do you think perhaps you misread the post you quoted earlier and it caused the miscommunication I noted above?
 
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This goes into the definition of the word random.
If you want to split hairs then technically speaking just because something is used in multiple places does not mean it isn't random. a specific random pattern could be reused due to reference.

However, I don't want to split hairs. which is why I explicitly conceded the point that random was a poor word choice on my part and even went so far as saying I was wrong.

However, being inspired by common RPGs isn't random by definition.

Currently I am only still arguing with this one guy who insists that
"blue / UI colored -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> gold"
is "literally the same as"
"gray -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> orange -> yellow"

because unlike me, he is unable to admit when he made a mistake.
I missed that post, so in your own words fair enough
 

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This goes into the definition of the word random.
If you want to split hairs then technically speaking just because something is used in multiple places does not mean it isn't random. a specific random pattern could be reused due to reference, familiarity, and plagiarism.

However, I don't want to split hairs.
which is why I explicitly conceded the point that random was a poor word choice on my part and even went so far as saying I was wrong.

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Currently I am only still arguing with this one guy who insists that
"blue / UI colored -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> gold"
is "literally the same as"
"gray -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> orange -> yellow"

because unlike me, he is unable to admit when he made a mistake. edit: sorry that was uncalled for.

edit:
well either that, or he only skimmed my posts and when he quoted me saying
"it is [SW scheme], which is similar but not the exact same as [mystwood manner scheme]"
and replied with
"wrong, it is exactly [SW scheme]"

actually hey larry5168 do you think perhaps you misread the post you quoted earlier and it caused the miscommunication I noted above?
There is a possibility of some miscommunication as there has been a lengthy exchange of views on the subject. I chose the first post because that was the one that seemed to be making a statement of fact if you get my meaning and totally missed the post where you conceded the point
 

whichone

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This goes into the definition of the word random.
If you want to split hairs then technically speaking just because something is used in multiple places does not mean it isn't random. a specific random pattern could be reused due to reference, familiarity, and plagiarism.

However, I don't want to split hairs.
which is why I explicitly conceded the point that random was a poor word choice on my part and even went so far as saying I was wrong.

===
Currently I am only still arguing with this one guy who insists that
"blue / UI colored -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> gold"
is "literally the same as"
"gray -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> orange -> yellow"

because unlike me, he is unable to admit when he made a mistake. edit: sorry that was uncalled for.

edit:
well either that, or he only skimmed my posts and when he quoted me saying
"it is [SW scheme], which is similar but not the exact same as [mystwood manner scheme]"
and replied with
"wrong, it is exactly [SW scheme]"

actually hey larry5168 do you think perhaps you misread the post you quoted earlier and it caused the miscommunication I noted above?
It's fucking grey. I showed the image twice. :FacePalm:
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All you're doing is the same shit as arguing over Yellow\Gold.
It doesn't matter that they are not exactly the same colour, they are replaceable for each other in the sequence and instantly identifiable as occupying the same position.

Regardless. The sequence is entirely familiar to most people who've commented here.
You are the only person who has expressed any difficulty with understanding it.
That means it's a "you" problem.

As I said, the sequence is utterly irrelevant, anyway.
It does not matter one jot which colour the card is.
It only matter what it does.

As for my comparison, you're so wrong it's ridiculously laughable.
Faerin has proven it for you, yet you're still trying to argue.
Wow.
Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes follows exactly this colour pattern.
Loads of games do.

Often see them given names, like Common (Grey), Uncommon (Green), Rare (Blue), Epic (Purple) & Legendary (Gold).
There are 5 rarities (if that's a word?):

common,
uncommon,
rare,
epic,
legendary

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Your cited picture is this:

this is light blue. not gray.
That was in the gear items.
You provided a link which showed Character gear levels.
So I provided the character Gear level, which is fucking Grey.
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Jesus weptl, do you really need to be such an utter pedant? :FacePalm:
No, Yellow is not Gold.
No, this is not literally Grey.
It's Grey-ish\Grey equivalent and occupies the Grey position in the sequence.
What is difficult for you to follow?

The dev said it, himself:
There are 5 rarities (if that's a word?):

common,
uncommon,
rare,
epic,
legendary

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Which is exactly what SWGoH has. Exactly as I said.
But, yeah, you carry on disputing it. :LOL::ROFLMAO:
 
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What is difficult for you to follow?
With him, you just have to remember that he's always right.
Whether he's contradicting himself with information/sources that do not match what he's saying, or straight-up ignoring things multiple times, he's always right and everyone who disagrees is wrong... Especially when they're right.
 

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Fucking hell, do you need to be such an utter pedant? :FacePalm:
All the facepalming in the world won't make you right. I pulled the image into gimp and used color sample tool to extract the color exact hex value
light-blue.png

Color #a7d2dc contains mainly BLUE color.
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It's Grey-ish\Grey equivalent and occupies the Grey position in the sequence.
What is difficult for you to follow?
nice goalpost shifting.
Currently I am only still arguing with this one guy who insists that
"blue / UI colored -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> gold"
is "literally the same as"
"gray -> green -> dark blue -> purple -> orange -> yellow"
It's fucking grey. I showed the image twice. :FacePalm:
you are the one arguing that they are literally the same. and now you got caught you can't admit it
 

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All the facepalming in the world won't make you right.
No, but the dev confirming exactly what I said, does.
There are 5 rarities (if that's a word?):

common,
uncommon,
rare,
epic,
legendary

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The fact that you're still attempting to argue, in the face of this, is precisely why facepalms are entirely warranted.
nice goalpost shifting.
Says the person who began this by saying this colour sequence is totally random.
It's been indisputably proven to follow an established pattern, commonly found in multiple games.
You were wrong, so now you want to try and deflect to an argument about shades of fucking grey, or yellow not being the same as gold. Weak semantics. :FacePalm:
 
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Been a while since I got the tutorial, but wasn't the point of a guest reaching VIP status that you always complete their interactions, as long as a girl is assigned? Doesn't seem to be working with the lvl 5 VIPs. It does skip the interaction but on the summary screen it says they were unsatisfied.
The employee will always get the correct answer (when you skip the interactions), but they still need to get enough points to satisfy the guest. The correct response is only part of the equation, they might still need more skill or inventory items to succeed.
 
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For the sake of (hopefully) ending this rather long discussion:

There are 5 rarities (if that's a word?):

common,
uncommon,
rare,
epic,
legendary

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Thank Faerin.
I would like to suggest a feature.
It would be great if the cards actually had the rarity word written on them
Or make the sphere icons much larger and include a letter in each one for the rarity. Such as a C inside the grey to indicate common
 

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The employee will always get the correct answer (when you skip the interactions), but they still need to get enough points to satisfy the guest. The correct response is only part of the equation, they might still need more skill or inventory items to succeed.
Do the questions get more difficult later on?
Current I am getting
>I want a hamburger
and then I get to choose between giving them:
> Hamburger
> Salad
> Tomato Soup
 

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Thank Faerin.
I would like to suggest a feature.
It would be great if the cards actually had the rarity word written on them
Or make the sphere icons much larger and include a letter in each one for the rarity. Such as a C inside the grey to indicate common
While I do see your point (and the actual rarity levels/colors are never explained), this was the last planned update.
And I don't think it's important enough to warrant another update (in fact, you're the first to bring this up).

Personally, I would argue that a player either chooses what they think is the best card (in which case rarity is not relevant) or wants to obtain all cards for the bonus event (in which case rarity doesn't matter that much either, as you will always be offered a card you don't have yet, regardless of rarity).

So all in all, I guess the rarity could just be dropped altogether :LOL:
 

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Do the questions get more difficult later on?
Current I am getting
>I want a hamburger
and then I get to choose between giving them:
> Hamburger
> Salad
> Tomato Soup
As you progress and the hotel reaches a higher level you can accept higher-level guests and they will ask for more advanced meals etc so yes as the level gets higher the questions become harder
 
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(in fact, you're the first to bring this up).
Ha ha, yup:
Because it's only you, so far, who has expressed any difficulty with it.
It's entirely familiar to me & many others.
Personally, I would argue that a player either chooses what they think is the best card (in which case rarity is not relevant) or wants to obtain all cards for the bonus event (in which case rarity doesn't matter that much either, as you will always be offered a card you don't have yet, regardless of rarity).

So all in all, I guess the rarity could just be dropped altogether :LOL:
lol
Regardless of familiarity with the sequence, it's utterly irrelevant, in this game, anyway.
The only thing that matters, is what the card does. Not what coloured tag it has.
Common (Grey), Uncommon (Green), Rare (Blue), Epic (Purple) & Legendary (Gold).
There are 5 rarities (if that's a word?):
common,
uncommon,
rare,
epic,
legendary
Thank you. (y) Exactly as I said. :LOL: (& yes, "rarities" is a proper word, it's the plural of "rarity").
I'm sure he's still desperately seeking ways to call me wrong. :ROFLMAO:
 
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