Kotobiki

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Saw a sig for this game and decided to check it out... this has been ongoing for 5 years?
 
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shitass1001

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Man I am so fucking sick of the same shitty fucking wimp looking MC in these HS games... At least don't fucking show him, holy shit.
my guess for the reason why so many VNs have "shitty fucking wimp" looking MCs is that a lot of devs take inspiration from anime and other media from east Asia. For some reason MCs in anime tend to look really small (take luffy from 'one piece' as a good example, toned body but small frame), so it would make sense that media that takes inspiration from other media might take some characteristics of it.
 

TheDevian

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Wow, a guy with an actual argument? And a good one on that? The hell are you doing on f95?
Yes, I think you are right, I pretty much know the reasons why the devs choose these limp wristed soys as MC's, but the reason doesn't really matter, I was just commenting my own opinion/preference.
It boils down to one thing, Illusion and the people who make mods for their games, don't give a shit about the guys, and so unless you really trick the engine, and use parts that are meant for women (something most of us don't know how to do), the best you are going to get is a bland nothing, or a disgusting perv. That is really all the HS engine is good to make for men. Go download it and try for yourself, you will see. As for me, the best looking guy I was able to make was still a sleazeball. There is a reason so many use the 'default' model.

It's why most of it is in first person, all the love goes to the women, and the men get mostly ignored. It is such a well known thing, everyone assumed you were trolling, because we have all had this discussion many times, years ago.
 

TheDevian

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I get it man, honestly. I am just sick of seeing these creepy fucks. Why show your MC at all in the game? It serves no purpose. He's weird and shitty looking. Just keep it fully POV and we're golden. (not you, devs in general)
That is why Harem Hotel never shows his face. But there are just sometimes when first person looks wrong, you kind of need a mix.
 

TheDevian

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Never in my life have I thought that while having sex, have you?
"Hmm I wish I could see my ass while banging this chick"
Likely not, for sure, but from the side, or some other angle, so you can see more of her, that is the trick.
Have you ever tried to pose a camera from first person? It is not easy, you have to do things like break the MC's neck or remove the head entirely, it's messy at best. Also, you might not be aware of this, but not everyone likes first person, so you have to have options for everyone, that is why this game, and many others give you options for that, so you can see some of it from first person, and some of it not.
 
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