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This game is currently on hiatus for a few months. I just don't have the time to give it the attention it needs right now. Once I finish work on The Monster Within in October I'll get back to working on it as well as the SFW conversion Clothed Ambition.
is this going to be true for futa oasis as well?
 

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Does anyone know how to enter the cecily transformation route, i've had the cecily contact route and the corruption route, not entirely sure what check i need to fail/pass to get there.

I'm guessing it's enter the cecily route then perhaps something to do with the brother being transformed but not sure how to get there.
 

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Does anyone know how to enter the cecily transformation route, i've had the cecily contact route and the corruption route, not entirely sure what check i need to fail/pass to get there.

I'm guessing it's enter the cecily route then perhaps something to do with the brother being transformed but not sure how to get there.
Cecily romance route: After growing a dick, don't draw green cards, have low corruption
Cecily corruption route: After growing a dick, don't draw green cards, have high corruption
Cecily brother transformation route: After growing a dick, draw green cards

Don't get rid of the green cards Cecily gives to you in her route and get lucky on the card draws.
 
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Cecily romance route: After growing a dick, don't draw green cards, have low corruption
Cecily corruption route: After growing a dick, don't draw green cards, have high corruption
Cecily brother transformation route: After growing a dick, draw green cards

Don't get rid of the green cards Cecily gives to you in her route and get lucky on the card draws.
Thanks, i think it was the "get lucky" after the initial transformation stuff i was lacking.
 
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the motivation for it being a porn game is introduced very awkwardly. Like: "hey, btw i also wanna fuck her, so work on that". Only pointing it out because from the first glance the narrative seems to be more interesting than usual with these games.
 
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The system with cards.. seems like its intentionally designed for you to fail. I have 2 cheery thoughts and 2 angry ones but the only ones that pop up during the conversation are the angry ones. Frustrating
 

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This game has a fairly sizeable audience on here (although it feels like half of you hate the game haha) so I'm going to elaborate on what's happening with it for people who don't really follow me closely.

So, Naked Ambition has always been a game with a specific goal in mind, to portray the feeling and emotion of being a close friend/parent to someone and trying to help them get through a tying time. But you don't control that person, they make their own decisions, they're their own person. The card system has some flaws that I'm changing for Clothed Ambition, but it's a fairly good way of abstracting that. However, Naked Ambition always had one major flaw...

This is a TERRIBLE basis for a porn game. In general, porn is something people want maximum agency over. Waiting to get to the good stuff is one thing, but having the base mechanics of the game make it so some scenes just won't happen because the Princess doesn't feel like it? Well, let's just say not ideal. So why did I do this system? Well frankly because I cared more about the feeling and story then the ease of getting off to it.

That brings us to why I put Naked Ambition on hold. I'll be honest, the storm of negativity about this game makes it hard to get motivation to work on it but that's not really the fundamental reason. The reason is that working on it feels kind of like a waste now that Clothed Ambition is basically a certainty. I wouldn't call the TF Card Battle -> The Monster Within conversion a huge financial success, but it wasn't a failure (and it's not out of early access until the end of the month, maybe it will make lots of money in the end). But it's way more of a success then it would have been if I had just made the SFW game first with no association to the porn one. So here I am with a game that has lots of writing, art, and a unique gameplay system that fulfills my goals fairly well but is anathema to the pornographic element.

So... just take the porn out, right? It'll take lots of rewrites, lots of new and changed content, but it should work. But it does make working on the sexy content feel redundant, because I'm going to remove it anyway. But wait, there's a solution to that lack of motivation. Financial incentive. See, if I really want the Naked Ambition audience to give Clothed Ambition a big boost, I can't leave the game lingering in limbo, otherwise people might forget about it. I need to finish it for that sweet, sweet, synergy. At least that's the plan anyway. I'll be honest, making games is a huge slog. There's endless work to do, and as much as I enjoy the process making sure I finish them involves a lot of finding new ways to motivate myself. So here's to hoping this one works.

To everyone who loves Naked Ambition, I 100% intend to finish it and I have plans for Clothed Ambition that should make it a much better game in the end. For everyone who hates Naked Ambition, man you people sure are good at killing my motivation to work on it but I'll overcome it. No promises on timelines, but I want Clothed Ambition to be done by the end of 2023, so Naked Ambition should be complete sometime before that.
 

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This game has a fairly sizeable audience on here (although it feels like half of you hate the game haha) so I'm going to elaborate on what's happening with it for people who don't really follow me closely.

So, Naked Ambition has always been a game with a specific goal in mind, to portray the feeling and emotion of being a close friend/parent to someone and trying to help them get through a tying time. But you don't control that person, they make their own decisions, they're their own person. The card system has some flaws that I'm changing for Clothed Ambition, but it's a fairly good way of abstracting that. However, Naked Ambition always had one major flaw...

This is a TERRIBLE basis for a porn game. In general, porn is something people want maximum agency over. Waiting to get to the good stuff is one thing, but having the base mechanics of the game make it so some scenes just won't happen because the Princess doesn't feel like it? Well, let's just say not ideal. So why did I do this system? Well frankly because I cared more about the feeling and story then the ease of getting off to it.

That brings us to why I put Naked Ambition on hold. I'll be honest, the storm of negativity about this game makes it hard to get motivation to work on it but that's not really the fundamental reason. The reason is that working on it feels kind of like a waste now that Clothed Ambition is basically a certainty. I wouldn't call the TF Card Battle -> The Monster Within conversion a huge financial success, but it wasn't a failure (and it's not out of early access until the end of the month, maybe it will make lots of money in the end). But it's way more of a success then it would have been if I had just made the SFW game first with no association to the porn one. So here I am with a game that has lots of writing, art, and a unique gameplay system that fulfills my goals fairly well but is anathema to the pornographic element.

So... just take the porn out, right? It'll take lots of rewrites, lots of new and changed content, but it should work. But it does make working on the sexy content feel redundant, because I'm going to remove it anyway. But wait, there's a solution to that lack of motivation. Financial incentive. See, if I really want the Naked Ambition audience to give Clothed Ambition a big boost, I can't leave the game lingering in limbo, otherwise people might forget about it. I need to finish it for that sweet, sweet, synergy. At least that's the plan anyway. I'll be honest, making games is a huge slog. There's endless work to do, and as much as I enjoy the process making sure I finish them involves a lot of finding new ways to motivate myself. So here's to hoping this one works.

To everyone who loves Naked Ambition, I 100% intend to finish it and I have plans for Clothed Ambition that should make it a much better game in the end. For everyone who hates Naked Ambition, man you people sure are good at killing my motivation to work on it but I'll overcome it. No promises on timelines, but I want Clothed Ambition to be done by the end of 2023, so Naked Ambition should be complete sometime before that.
I really like Naked Ambition and I completely understood the fact that you were a "guide" for the MC rather than controlling her directly. Yes it frustrated me a few times when the RNG didn't go my way but I figured things out and can really appreciate how well done it actually is.

I'm sad to see I might be in the minority here but I'm happy to support the development a bit regardless. Sadly I'm not too interested in your other projects but again, I get that I'm not of the majority opinion.
 
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As disheartening as it is to hear how the negative feedback has affected you, it's good to know you will be continuing forward nonetheless.

And as someone who has loved the game for its themes & mechanics just as much its kink, I'm super stoked for Clothed Ambition (and, not to mention, "At the mountains of friendship".)
 
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This game has a fairly sizeable audience on here (although it feels like half of you hate the game haha) so I'm going to elaborate on what's happening with it for people who don't really follow me closely.

So, Naked Ambition has always been a game with a specific goal in mind, to portray the feeling and emotion of being a close friend/parent to someone and trying to help them get through a tying time. But you don't control that person, they make their own decisions, they're their own person. The card system has some flaws that I'm changing for Clothed Ambition, but it's a fairly good way of abstracting that. However, Naked Ambition always had one major flaw...

This is a TERRIBLE basis for a porn game. In general, porn is something people want maximum agency over. Waiting to get to the good stuff is one thing, but having the base mechanics of the game make it so some scenes just won't happen because the Princess doesn't feel like it? Well, let's just say not ideal. So why did I do this system? Well frankly because I cared more about the feeling and story then the ease of getting off to it.

That brings us to why I put Naked Ambition on hold. I'll be honest, the storm of negativity about this game makes it hard to get motivation to work on it but that's not really the fundamental reason. The reason is that working on it feels kind of like a waste now that Clothed Ambition is basically a certainty. I wouldn't call the TF Card Battle -> The Monster Within conversion a huge financial success, but it wasn't a failure (and it's not out of early access until the end of the month, maybe it will make lots of money in the end). But it's way more of a success then it would have been if I had just made the SFW game first with no association to the porn one. So here I am with a game that has lots of writing, art, and a unique gameplay system that fulfills my goals fairly well but is anathema to the pornographic element.

So... just take the porn out, right? It'll take lots of rewrites, lots of new and changed content, but it should work. But it does make working on the sexy content feel redundant, because I'm going to remove it anyway. But wait, there's a solution to that lack of motivation. Financial incentive. See, if I really want the Naked Ambition audience to give Clothed Ambition a big boost, I can't leave the game lingering in limbo, otherwise people might forget about it. I need to finish it for that sweet, sweet, synergy. At least that's the plan anyway. I'll be honest, making games is a huge slog. There's endless work to do, and as much as I enjoy the process making sure I finish them involves a lot of finding new ways to motivate myself. So here's to hoping this one works.

To everyone who loves Naked Ambition, I 100% intend to finish it and I have plans for Clothed Ambition that should make it a much better game in the end. For everyone who hates Naked Ambition, man you people sure are good at killing my motivation to work on it but I'll overcome it. No promises on timelines, but I want Clothed Ambition to be done by the end of 2023, so Naked Ambition should be complete sometime before that.
I like Naked Ambition, I don't mind the porn being somewhat difficult to get to because to me it is mostly just a neat thing to get on top of an already good game. Like you say in your website: "Games with porn in them".

I would recommend trying to not get too disheartened over people complaining it is not easy to always get the scenes they wanted or just asking for "full saves". I have seen those same complaints and requests in threads for games where the way the porn is integrated into the gameplay is 90% of the appeal to begin with. I don't understand why some people bother browsing game threads when they could probably find more and higher quality porn images in non-games if that's all they cared about.

While I do think Clothed Ambition might find a somewhat more patient niche since the player won't feel blueballed when they miss a scene they wanted to get, I would still expect some criticism regarding the way the randomness plays into what the player may perceive as an already pretty challenging "management" VN, I understand the feeling you are trying to invoke but when things turn sideways it will still probably be a 50/50 between the player getting mad at the game or calling Collette a fucking donkey.

Also for whatever it is worth, collecting the porn to fill out the gallery did give me motivation to play around more with the game and with routes I didn't find as interesting as my favourite ones, which is not something I did when I played "Long Live the Queen", in that game I kinda played around with optimizing my favourite routes and triggering some events I thought sounded satisfying, but I never explored every nook and cranny of that game despite really enjoying the design of it. So that's at least one thing I feel Naked Ambition is better for having porn, and not just "porn", it probably gets buried under other praises and criticisms, but I do think Naked Ambition has good porn, it is well done, it has a unique style to it, and it fills out pretty much all kinds of gaps the scenario allows for. It is good stuff!
 

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While I do think Clothed Ambition might find a somewhat more patient niche since the player won't feel blueballed when they miss a scene they wanted to get, I would still expect some criticism regarding the way the randomness plays into what the player may perceive as an already pretty challenging "management" VN, I understand the feeling you are trying to invoke but when things turn sideways it will still probably be a 50/50 between the player getting mad at the game or calling Collette a fucking donkey.
One of the things I plan on changing for Clothed Ambition that should help minimize frustration is changing the game from being more of a "rouge-like" sort of setup with lots of pass fail checks, to more of a "lots of things can happen" type of thing. Instead of having a blue card check that you either pass or fail, card checks will be much more a granular thing. With the Princess choosing a color based on her draw and making choices based on that. So instead of the visceral "Nope, you failed the check" feeling, it will be of a "the princess decided to approach the situation in a red way, and the other character didn't like that as much as if she had chosen a yellow way" stuff like that. So it's more based on her personality rather then just pass/fail checks.
 

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One of the things I plan on changing for Clothed Ambition that should help minimize frustration is changing the game from being more of a "rouge-like" sort of setup with lots of pass fail checks, to more of a "lots of things can happen" type of thing. Instead of having a blue card check that you either pass or fail, card checks will be much more a granular thing. With the Princess choosing a color based on her draw and making choices based on that. So instead of the visceral "Nope, you failed the check" feeling, it will be of a "the princess decided to approach the situation in a red way, and the other character didn't like that as much as if she had chosen a yellow way" stuff like that. So it's more based on her personality rather then just pass/fail checks.
That does sound like it would make for a more approachable game experience, reduces the "all or nothing" stakes and you could make the events have more gradual results (in your example, red could be the worst mind state for the princess to resolve that situation and yellow could be the best, the other colors results could be anywhere inbetween those 2). It will definitely be helpful to have a finished Naked Ambition to use for reference while balancing out those numbers.
 
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"the princess decided to approach the situation in a red way, and the other character didn't like that as much as if she had chosen a yellow way"
Looks very promising. That surely would be more immersive. Considering the base game is already quite good, this effect should be multiplicative.

This is a TERRIBLE basis for a porn game. In general, porn is something people want maximum agency over.
Actually, savescamming and backroll-scamming capacity solves that. You didn't like what did your roll lead to? Roll back the events with a mouse wheel and see these unfold in a new way. That way, instead of making a whole new run in hopes everything will roll exactly like it was except for a few things, you're exploring the possibilities. This is fun in some cases (like finding some last rare occurences), as well.
 
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Actually, savescamming and backroll-scamming capacity solves that. You didn't like what did your roll lead to? Roll back the events with a mouse wheel and see these unfold in a new way. That way, instead of making a whole new run in hopes everything will roll exactly like it was except for a few things, you're exploring the possibilities. This is fun in some cases (like finding some last rare occurences), as well.
In the new version, since it's less focused on the rougelike aspect of it, I should probably make blocking rolling back decisions an option instead of a base mechanic. So if you want to play in ironwoman mode you can, but aren't forced too.
 

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That brings us to why I put Naked Ambition on hold. I'll be honest, the storm of negativity about this game makes it hard to get motivation to work on it but that's not really the fundamental reason. The reason is that working on it feels kind of like a waste now that Clothed Ambition is basically a certainty. I wouldn't call the TF Card Battle -> The Monster Within conversion a huge financial success, but it wasn't a failure (and it's not out of early access until the end of the month, maybe it will make lots of money in the end). But it's way more of a success then it would have been if I had just made the SFW game first with no association to the porn one. So here I am with a game that has lots of writing, art, and a unique gameplay system that fulfills my goals fairly well but is anathema to the pornographic element.
It's a pity to hear you're not having a good time making the game. I consider it your best content, and I hope you'll make more games in the same vein.
 
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