Professor Black

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I'm sorry that you feel that way but that isn't how real-world work. I mean accepting your Sister's confession isn't something that would *normally* happen. The incest thought of it would make it hard to go with, as for a normal human being, of course.
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Like I said the release was just a taste of what to expect through the game
I don't really understand that logic. I dont go around other games thread with aliens/myth gods/monsters and say "well thats not how the real-world works!". The premise of your story is that mc's life changed for the better cuz he made a deal with some gods/devils. Then the next day he's back in highschool where everyone has a crush on him now including the mom and sisters, yea that normally happens.
 

BlasKyau

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To all you guys confused about the harem route in the game, This was the definition of it on the site View attachment 1431433
Nothing side about going after everyone at the same time and for that, that is why a harem tag is in my game
Well, it's a harem that I don't like, so I guess I'll just skip the game. As I say, if I can't have all the LIs in a single game, I'm not interested.

Good luck and thanks for sharing.
 

ESM13

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Well, I downloaded 0.1 just looking at tags. It's no wonder I was wrong. Let's make it some kind of review.
First of all, thank you for taking the time to write a review about the game.
To peep on someone... as I see it it doesn't have to be good or bad, this choice usually for player to see some naked bodies
It is not peeping on someone, it is peeping on a family member. How is this even a topic to consider if it is good or bad?
I can tell dev that force players to do something is not good. And helping MC's sister with her feelings isn't something bad for itself.
Is not like I closed this door and let her suffer for good. You can talk about it with her later and have a normal brother and sister relationship
Another thing I want to add is that quiz in the future. Dev told us MC will be questioned, showed us some hints and that's all. When (and if) there will be a 0.2 we will forgot all the hints. It's senseless to make all this hints and not to make a quiz with these hints.
It is only five questions with a 5 word answer with choices but the difference is you will have to attend to get the knowledge
I can even post the answers here. It won't be shown unless you attend anyway.
And I was really slow, such thoughts was with me till I was 22
Some people really don't like to kill themselves you know. They always tell themselves it will get better and they need to fight it and they just keep on living. It happens until something click in them
Like pregnancy, for example. Whatever you do, it's only two days and there's no pregnant characters from the first string of code to the last
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This was what was mentioned in the tag rules. The act itself will 100% be in the game so the tag is valid and you can say it happened or not but it is already was mentioned and will be in v 0.2 which I really don't think it is a good idea to do with all of this hate lol
 
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Kalsan

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Shit, i was going to leave but i really like the waifus. Look dev a little advice, no one play a game where every girls want to do you because they expect to find realism in it. I mean is good when a harem building feels organic but the full harem happens in the end. Look is your game obvious so your choice, but a serious advice, go for full harem or don't go for harem at all. No ones like to put only the tip, you push it in until you feel the kidneys or don't put it at all. Hahaha
 

ESM13

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I don't really understand that logic. I dont go around other games thread with aliens/myth gods/monsters and say "well thats not how the real-world works!". The premise of your story is that mc's life changed for the better cuz he made a deal with some gods/devils. Then the next day he's back in highschool where everyone has a crush on him now including the mom and sisters, yea that normally happens.
I meant how it goes with relationship man. Like I know the story itself isn't something real but this part is needed for the story however the relationships and how characters act. I try to keep it as real as possible unless it was controlled already
 

ESM13

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These long talks about harem man, It makes my head spinning
Like what I said till now was that the girlfriend only won't be a part of it and everyone lose their heads.
You can have two routes, one for the girlfriend and one for the harem and that is all I have to add to this
 

Kalsan

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These long talks about harem man, It makes my head spinning
Like what I said till now was that the girlfriend only won't be a part of it and everyone lose their heads.
You can have two routes, one for the girlfriend and one for the harem and that is all I have to add to this
Man not at all, people aren't losing their heads about it, is just that it make 0 sense that the girlfriend is excluded from a harem route. So you can end with every girls that move except your girlfriend? Why? Think about it, it make absolutely no sense.
 

ESM13

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Man not at all, people aren't losing their heads about it, is just that it make 0 sense that the girlfriend is excluded from a harem route. So you can end with every girls that move except your girlfriend? Why? Think about it, it make absolutely no sense.
For the game circumstances, it would make total sense. This is just v0.1 but if you look closely you would see that in MC way to go after the other girls he already abandoned the girlfriend little by little and with him go after others he loses parts of what makes him a good person so he can't keep a relationship going strong with anyone and sooner or later he would lose her
 

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For the game circumstances, it would make total sense. This is just v0.1 but if you look closely you would see that in MC way to go after the other girls he already abandoned the girlfriend little by little and with him go after others he loses parts of what makes him a good person so he can't keep a relationship going strong with anyone and sooner or later he would lose her
Oh, so the mindset that "You have to be a bad person to love multiple women." Now everything makes since.
 

ESM13

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One last thing to say on this matter, it is an adult VN because it has adult stuff in it not because the adult stuff is what it is. Like an +18 can be a porn video or just a movie with porn scenes. I hope this makes more sense for you guys and thank you for caring enough and asking about the game.
 

TheFallacyGuy

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Okay, leaving aside the harem thing, and the weird comments that seems to imply that polyamory is inherently evil. I would ditch or at the very least overhaul the good vs bad system, and do it fast, before you get too deep. Your karma system isn't bad because it limits the player in the one thing they download these types of games for, it is bad because rigid karma systems are bad game mechanics. What is even the point of having the option of kids vs no kids if any choice deviating from the path completely restricts it? At this point why not just have one choice at the beginning of the game saying: "Do you want to be good or evil?" and then have the rest of the game be a kinetic novel? Being this restrictive to the player kills all nuance that having choices bring. Choices are a cool as hell feature in a game, as it gives the player immersion and agency, but by making this choice as binary as possible you're robbing the player of both.

I'm all for choices having consequences, but it's not a consequence if you don't let us make the choice.

EDIT: In this case it doesn't even make sense for the story. Nadine doesn't know about the bad choices the MC has taken at this point. If the reason for not getting kids was because Nadine got mad because she witnessed one of the choices that would make sense, but here the game is blocking the player just due to it being a mechanic that Nadine is not part of the bad path and not for any particular story reason.
 
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ESM13

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after reading your anwser to my and a couple other person comment, i think you should put a warning at the beginning that the mc can only be in relationship with one partner and perhaps a warning when entering a specific route and give a shout to the admin to put away the harem tag ^^

from personal experience, i think there may be too many female interest to make it a true love only game, as you would need the variation for the non chosen girl for each route the player follow and a couple variation for the karma because not choosing them mean he become either friend or on bad term with them, making it maybe too heavy and ambitious a job for a first game if you want to keep the quality of this first upload

i see no reason to apologize about the renders i did not read all other comment but i don't rememeber anyone pointing this out so it maybe my personal taste speacking and useles as a feedback

btw i think you should not change your idea to prevent people to use mod, make the game the way you like it and let people choose if they want to enjoy your original idea or take shortcut, in the long run it keep you motivated if you forget what you can't realy prevent (when there's no stat people get mod to see multiple scene at a time or change flag ... ) this come from someone making game with rpgm >< i don't give a fuck about those that take shortcut, they just cut the game consistency, durability and replayability ... it's their own enjoyement of the original story they cut into, if they are happy let them do what they want ^^
Thank you for the feedback and I will take it all into consideration if I decided to continue working on the game
 

ben akeba

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Thank you for the feedback and I will take it all into consideration if I decided to continue working on the game
shit i deleted my comment because i did not see the last page of comment and i think most of what i said don't actualy apply to your idea :S
 

BlasKyau

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For the game circumstances, it would make total sense. This is just v0.1 but if you look closely you would see that in MC way to go after the other girls he already abandoned the girlfriend little by little and with him go after others he loses parts of what makes him a good person so he can't keep a relationship going strong with anyone and sooner or later he would lose her
I understand the explanation, but I'm going to find another game that has a real harem.

Thanks for the game and good luck.
 
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