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luccel

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I made myself NTR King, just now, feel free to bow down and kiss my ring lol. Besides, it's the context and tone more than the term itself.

Out of curiosity, which path were you on? It may be that there's some logic bug I need to fix.

Also, apologies to Le Stag for getting your comments all riled up. I was a little heated myself and I should have known better than to post on someone else's project at that moment.
explain to me how the context and tone of cuck being said changes the game to hard ntr and then explain how that turns a game that then has 99% netorase and 1% netorare from the use of the magic netorare word cuck into a full on netorare game
 

fbass

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I agree, the DEV already said that, he will not.
Im not bashing, just stating the facts what the arguments are all about.
is it not true that u want to be cucked? called cucky is exactly the purpose and humiliation is exciting. sissy boys is another word for beta/cuckold that want to give his GF to a bigger and better man.
also, wheres the kink shaming? we both want NTS, the "only" difference is that I feel theres some parts that are lacking.
something the DEV don't agree and surely a lot of u don't agree as u feel it will just make the VN worse.
and surely it will if the DEV only allow 1 route and if the DEV don't understand the points given (as he clearly don't)
the only reason Im still here is that people are still arguing and Im still getting alerts, sometimes someone reply my post or name my username, or I feel I need to defend our points a bit more. but I know its futile so I will soon stop. don't worry. u get your cucky-VN so u can fap and enjoy it fully.
Look, I see you as a positive contributor to the community but right now you are acting like a child having a fit because they didn't get what they want. Maybe you're reacting out of anger. I don't want to be cucked but I do want to see the MC get cucked and I want to see the girl have a lot of fun doing it. You are intentions are clearly meant to be derogatory towards the people that like what you don't.
 

baka

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Look, I see you as a positive contributor to the community but right now you are acting like a child having a fit because they didn't get what they want. Maybe you're reacting out of anger. I don't want to be cucked but I do want to see the MC get cucked and I want to see the girl have a lot of fun doing it. You are intentions are clearly meant to be derogatory towards the people that like what you don't.
maybe a bit. but mostly at the DEV that was not clear and promised to look it over and give choices, those choices was later changed to just make the GF react in a certain way while MC was never changed. and those settings that u think should matter, they will not. also, right now I don't care, I mean, the game was never that good, interesting yes, but quite sterile for my taste.

I thought we play the MC? so u mean its not the MC but just a BF we are stuck with? if so, sorry about that. I know that some are playing immersive while others more of a watcher, even if theres a MC. I can switch around. sometimes I want to play the MC sometimes I don't, especially if I think the MC is an idiot. maybe I need to see him like that, a creatin that don't deserve shit and let the girl be a slut. still not that interesting as I would more enjoy to follow her around, not this cucky.
 
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baka

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he is a cretin. a big one. a ultra-cuck that changes his mind, gets annoyed to be called cucky but enjoy it.
he don't want his fetish to spread around, but who cares, the GF "demand" to reveal it and she also show that in a party that she making-out. he is hesitant, but the GF says, too late fucker, I will do it now, u can't get cold feet. get real man its nothing big, just suck some stranger cock.
he is not sure if she should hook up but the next moment he is ultra-horny and want her to fuck anything that moves.
he is a doormat and let his GF party and get a lover while he get a pic or two if he is lucky and some retelling if she is in the mood.
if this is not a cretin what is he?
BUT yeah, sorry Modsognir, u are the immersive player right? u don't want to be called cretin?
please do not see yourself as the MC, he is not you. you are not him?
 

aqd

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Just found this game for the first time. Excellent writing and pacing. Great art too. Do I wish there was a bit more of the art? Sure. It makes you want to have more direct interaction or a spying scene, but for being phone only it's excellent.
 
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xemo66

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- Nathan and the MC will have a good relationship,



That being said, if people really feel that the relationship between the MC and Laura gets "sidelined", I can work on that. But I'm not sure it's really useful because, let's be honest, as much as it's important to show a healthy relationship, people aren't here to see that part of the story.
Hey, then what's the "relationship with Nathan" for?

I would disagree with the last part, it would be a nice bonus. It won't be perhaps what most people care, but it would definitely elevate the story if done right. But that's of course, if you have enough energy for that extra.
 
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xemo66

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My point is this: If we do not draw clear distinctions then there will always be confusion and frustration amongst the community.
Other terms exist in this genre, Stag/Vixen for example, for situations where both partners are supportive and consenting, there's no humiliation is involved, and where the MC is more dominant and in control of the scenes. That is Netorase (in my opinion to be fair.)
If you start to add in things like name calling (i.e. "Cuck", "Cucky", etc.) which is clearly not meant to be a supportive phrase in this context, then you start to blur that line between Netorase and Netorare and we have the resulting confusion amongst users.
To be clear, I don't mind a netorare story as long as it's clear from the beginning that that's what is the theme. What frustrates me is when you get this really mixed bag of tone and context that makes it unclear as to which direction the story is heading.
It indeed would be better if there's a clear distinction. But the thing is, there's no authoritative definition. Well, apprarently I think my definition is better than yours, but that doesn't mean much, does it?

In today english speaking community, cuckold is naturally associate with a submissive role, be it willing or unwilling. However 寝取らせ or 寝取られ aren't even english words and thus don't adhere to the customs of other language or culture.

I think the simple and obvious solution for these confusions, is simply to skip the japanese phrases and just use english, swinging, sharing, hotwifing, cuckolding, whatever, since that's what we communicate with.
 
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Joshy92

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Look, I see you as a positive contributor to the community but right now you are acting like a child having a fit because they didn't get what they want. Maybe you're reacting out of anger. I don't want to be cucked but I do want to see the MC get cucked and I want to see the girl have a lot of fun doing it. You are intentions are clearly meant to be derogatory towards the people that like what you don't.
I want Laura to cuck me big time.
 

xemo66

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not really CaptionMaker.
theres a bunch that want (the DEV team)
- getting cucked like sissy boys.
- the bull should be bigger and better
- the BF is just a weak bastard that need to be humiliated
- the GF is getting herself lovers and can do whateverfuck she wants

and the opposition say
- the relationship should be the primary focus where they build upon consensus and understanding.
- the GF should act more considerate and be aware of the MC indecision and worry
- the BF should not be schizophrenic and change mood from super-cuck to hesitant all the fucking time
- the BF fetish is used against the BF, the GF is more occupied with her new sex life and party time.

this is not about getting hurt. but if u dont understand how relationships works its on you.
To be honest, I think the "opposition" you described fit into my general taste for nts, thus I don't see problem.

The problem is why we perceive different things from the same story. Which occasion exactly in the game that makes you feel the mc "change mood from super-cuck to hesitant"? I certainly don't feel that way.
 

hhhhy

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Probably, you're right.



No, it's not. Stop making up stories when you have the author telling specifically that these kind of situations won't happen, it's absolutely ridiculous.



You are wrong.



No, but the dev dictates what the story is, and it's definitely not what you seem to be seeing.

I did not listen to your suggestions because they are irrelevant to what the game is about. For the simplest of reasons: you don't seem to get what the game is about. And all the while, you seem to think your (flawed) interpretation is the absolute truth. That's not a good combination.


So, to put an end to it:
- The relationship between the MC and Laura will not degrade,
- Nathan does not want Laura to break up with the MC and get with her,
- Nathan and the MC will have a good relationship,
- The story IS about Laura's sexual liberation, as much as it is (indirectly) about yours,
- The MC is a watcher, because that is his kink, that's the whole point.

But version 0.8, the one that will revamp the first three acts, will remove or tone down the "negative" answers, because they are out of place. The MC likes this kink and has no reason to fight against it. And if that was what you were looking for, sorry, but you're not in the right place.

That being said, if people really feel that the relationship between the MC and Laura gets "sidelined", I can work on that. But I'm not sure it's really useful because, let's be honest, as much as it's important to show a healthy relationship, people aren't here to see that part of the story.
Hey if Mc and Nathan became good friends and Mc and laura remains close, then thats very good for me. I like this type of NTR/Netorase.
 

aqd

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Oh, the other thing that would be great to see would be a choice of lovers. Nathan is great, but at least one other lover would really enhance the game. More action, more replayability, and choices would have some more impact too. Nathan could be understanding and friendly, and another guy could be a dominant asshole. Or the MC could get cucked by a guy with a smaller dick, that could be a good twist for a route.
 
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Kieron1998

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No, swinging is when you fuck other girl when you girl fuck other guy, sharing is when you fuck your girl at the same time other guy fucks your girl.
Netorase is being a cuckold with consent. Netorare is being a cuckold without consent.
People want to argue, but in any case you are a cuck, alpha men wouldn't share their girlfriend with another man.
If this is the case then this game serves it's purpose. I went into this game thinking that netorase was more sort of swinging/sharing so I didn't like it and I'm glad I asked about it before writing a nonsensical review or post about it. When I was playing, I was getting infuriated because none of my choices made any sense for instance even when I said her not to send any of her pics with other men she would send it because she thought it was too late to back out. In other cases both Ashely and Laura say this is my last chance to stop all of this and I'm like "yeah I wanna stop all of these, give me the option to stop this" but there isn't an option to stop her. None of the choices make a difference so I was like how is this a netorase game(again i thought netorase was swinging/sharing)because it felt like forced cucking even when I didn't wanna get cucked. For instance when she says that she wants to talk about my kinks to Ashley, I chose "I'm not sure "option and in most cases that should stop her from talking about it but she just convienced herself about convincing me and proceeds so I was like what the fuck but i understand now. I mean if the end goal is to get cucked then this game is doing what it says and promises. I don't know about the consent part because I went in with different frame of mind and i didn't sense a whole lot of consent and maybe the consent will kick in later on in the story but yeah. Also I understand why the choices don't make any sense because they don't have to as the end goal is to get cucked no matter what. The only choice that must have made sense is when I said Ashley to not call me cucky and she said she would stop or something on those lines, at that point I gave up and I wasn't enjoying the game because I didn't know what netorase meant so yeah, my bad. Thanks for clarifying. I know what ntr meant because that's my fetish and my whole catalogue is filled with ntr games but i misunderstood netorase and it's intended purpose. My bad.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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People wanna be cucked without getting hurt. They want their girlfriends to be fucked by bigger, better, more virile men without being threatened by their superiority.
Correct. I want to play porn games. I want high sexual intensity and low emotional intensity. This is not a complex idea.
not really CaptionMaker.
theres a bunch that want (the DEV team)
- getting cucked like sissy boys.
- the bull should be bigger and better
- the BF is just a weak bastard that need to be humiliated
- the GF is getting herself lovers and can do whateverfuck she wants

and the opposition say
- the relationship should be the primary focus where they build upon consensus and understanding.
- the GF should act more considerate and be aware of the MC indecision and worry
- the BF should not be schizophrenic and change mood from super-cuck to hesitant all the fucking time
- the BF fetish is used against the BF, the GF is more occupied with her new sex life and party time.

this is not about getting hurt. but if u dont understand how relationships works its on you.
Yeah basically this, but you're vastly outnumbered on this thread as you can see so there's no point in belaboring it.... there's 3 groups here, people like you or myself, ntr fans who (muh dont self insert), and self-confessed fans of humiliation. The first group was more present during earlier updates, now it's almost all the 2nd group. The 3rd group is very small, this is like joshy. Captionmaker above is clearly in the second group.

At the end of the day, it's no biggy, le stag takes it in the direction he wants to take it, and there's been enough discord here to provide suitable feedback.
 
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Joshy92

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Correct. I want to play porn games. I want high sexual intensity and low emotional intensity. This is not a complex idea.

Yeah basically this, but you're vastly outnumbered on this thread as you can see so there's no point in belaboring it.... there's 3 groups here, people like you or myself, ntr fans who (muh dont self interest), and self-confessed fans of humiliation. The first group was more present during earlier updates, now it's almost all the 2nd group. The 3rd group is very small, this is like joshy. Captionmaker above is clearly in the second group.

At the end of the day, it's no biggy, le stag takes it in the direction he wants to take it, and there's been enough discord here to provide suitable feedback.
I admit I love humiliation stuff as long as it doesn't become cheating. But it's hard to find stuff like that.
 

Le Stag

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Hey, then what's the "relationship with Nathan" for?

I would disagree with the last part, it would be a nice bonus. It won't be perhaps what most people care, but it would definitely elevate the story if done right. But that's of course, if you have enough energy for that extra.
It was supposed to be how friendly you are with each other, but I think I'll remove it altogether soon.
 
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r3ad1n

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maybe a bit. but mostly at the DEV that was not clear and promised to look it over and give choices, those choices was later changed to just make the GF react in a certain way while MC was never changed. and those settings that u think should matter, they will not. also, right now I don't care, I mean, the game was never that good, interesting yes, but quite sterile for my taste.

I thought we play the MC? so u mean its not the MC but just a BF we are stuck with? if so, sorry about that. I know that some are playing immersive while others more of a watcher, even if theres a MC. I can switch around. sometimes I want to play the MC sometimes I don't, especially if I think the MC is an idiot. maybe I need to see him like that, a creatin that don't deserve shit and let the girl be a slut. still not that interesting as I would more enjoy to follow her around, not this cucky.
Yo baka,

You seem to have a lot of ideas on how "things" should work, and you obviously have a lot of time in your hands.

Why don't you make your own game the way YOU want the story to run and how things work.

You can then post it here and let people enjoy or critique it. See how it goes...

Lastly, don't go shit-posting on another person's hard work. Unless you paid the dev a fair amount to make a game based on what you want - then you can act like an ass-of-a-boss, and spout all the BS you want if the game is not to your liking.
 
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baka

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quite useless post. the entire f95 has this and its common. as I gamedev myself I get assaulted as well and its how it is.
I can't make people like something they don't. its their perspective and the time they spent on the game. some get good feelings some gets bad. u can not please everyone. no matter what.
a good reply is this: https://f95zone.to/threads/netorase-phone-v0-6-3-le-stag.207035/post-14076244
read this one as it tells how it is.

the DEV is not a god. he is a dude. so I don't need to do shit.
as Pr0GamerJohnny wrote I have been here from the beginning even before f95 giving feedback.
and I can't help if the DEV has been lying.
he also admit to that in one post that he just "ignored it" without even say it. and now we are here.
and if u read my post before u would also see the "I will soon leave" but u needed to alert me right, so here I am again.

xemo66 u can actually understand that from my post, but the user Kieron1998 posted this:
https://f95zone.to/threads/netorase-phone-v0-6-3-le-stag.207035/post-14076163
that tells a bit (not all) but enough why the MC is like that.
 
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