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Krytax123

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I don't think she crossed a line, her mind literally works different, she says something or it shows something in ep.3 or ep.4, I can't remember where, so she is probably not aware of what she is doing to a full extent.. A lot of people in this world is flawed. Do you think the MC is some saint or angel that has done no wrong. People are jumping to conclusions that she can't be redeemed or she is outright evil, which I personally think is wrong. You literally get a relationship up if you tell her she is crazy. She will change, her mind will heal, She will be fine. I stand with Luci cause I know she didn't cross any line and that she is Good.
That how the wife's of dicators must have felt lmao

"I stand with Adolf cause i know he didnt cross any line and that he is good." :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

You know she can still be a great avn LI even if shes batshit crazy, right? You dont have to idealize her lmao
 

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But i suspect there will something be revealed which makes Luci less "guilty" in the next chapters, lets wait what happens.
Yep, this is my point.

I wonder if all these moral white-knights that are posturing so much would still agree it's inhumane torture, if we find that it was rapists, murderers and others who committed despicable acts who they used for the robots. They probably would, but from my stance, if they were already inhumane and didn't give a fuck about their victims, they don't deserve the pity or sympathy.

Consider that robotic existence a perpetual repentance, that they would be forced to do and can't just agree to but never actually do, and they might actually offer something positive back to society that they *never* did in real life.
 
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Skep-tiker

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Also, there a a lot of people who are PAYING today for a mere chance to prolong their life (see cryogenics)... i think the human nature is to cling to life at all costs. Who says the robits are unhappy to be saved this way? It may be so, but we have no clue about this. Also they get a lop of happy drugs. And punishment for disobedience would have occured in their 'old' life as well...
 

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That how the wife's of dicators must have felt lmao

"I stand with Adolf cause i know he didnt cross any line and that he is good." :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

You know she can still be a great avn LI even if shes batshit crazy, right? You dont have to idealize her lmao
I don't idolize her. She is not some dictator or evil antagonist that you believe her to be. You and everyone will see her good, just be patient.
 

Krytax123

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Yep, this is my point.

I wonder if all these moral white-knights that are posturing so much would still agree it's inhumane torture, if we find that it was rapists, murderers and others who committed despicable acts who they used for the robots. They probably would, but from my stance, if they were already inhumane and didn't give a fuck about their victims, they don't deserve the pity or sympathy.

Consider that robotic existence a perpetual repentance, that they would be forced to do and can't just agree to but never actually do, and they might actually offer something positive back to society that they *never* did in real life.
Arent you kinda the white-knight defending her despite all obvious inhumane actions against all reasons lol?

From the information we have at this point it looks very bad for Luci but the dev is good at throwing everything around and yeah i think its safe to assume that something is fishy and there will be reasons. Still the reasons have to be damn good lol

And cicero asked the women what kind of guys these are and she didnt said anything about criminals i think? It think she even mentioned former guards being used :ROFLMAO:

And what the fuck is that last paragraph of yours, nobody owns this world anything, let the people die in peace what the fuck. Nobody deserves a destiny like that and whats even more important that nobody should have the power to condemn people to a destiny like that.

You being so hell-bend on trying to argue for it is way more hilarious and deluded than some people judging her actions harshly :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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Yep, this is my point.

I wonder if all these moral white-knights that are posturing so much would still agree it's inhumane torture, if we find that it was rapists, murderers and others who committed despicable acts who they used for the robots. They probably would, but from my stance, if they were already inhumane and didn't give a fuck about their victims, they don't deserve the pity or sympathy.

Consider that robotic existence a perpetual repentance, that they would be forced to do and can't just agree to but never actually do, and they might actually offer something positive back to society that they *never* did in real life.
I'm not even sure we need to go into this line of thinking to justify her actions. What's this society's primary existential threat? Failing birth rates. What's going to happen when the workforce is cut in half if not worse between 1 or 2 generations? What's going to happen when people reach an age they can't work but there's still massive worker shortages? The rampant poverty would wipe them out before the R virus could.
Is it evil? Can't really judge that by current societal standards in the real world. I think it most likely is, although to be fair its also quite possible that a sizable portion of those undead cyborgs would choose their current existence over definitive death. Is it necessary? Until birthrates can begin to recover it unfortunately is.
 

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Arent you kinda the white-knight defending her despite all obvious inhumane actions against all reasons lol?

From the information we have at this point it looks very bad for Luci but the dev is good at throwing everything around and yeah i think its safe to assume that something is fishy and there will be reasons. Still the reasons have to be damn good lol

And cicero asked the women what kind of guys these are and she didnt said anything about criminals i think? It think she even mentioned former guards being used :ROFLMAO:

And what the fuck is that last paragraph of yours, nobody owns this world anything, let the people die in peace what the fuck. Nobody deserves a destiny like that and whats even more important that nobody should have the power to condemn people to a destiny like that.

You being so hell-bend on trying to argue for it is way more hilarious and deluded than some people judging her actions harshly :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I am not white knighting her at all. I have already said multiple times that the story needs to play out more and let's wait and see.

For my last paragraph, well I firmly believe an eye for an eye. You say let people die in peace, but what about the relatives and friends of their victims? Fuck those who were a murderer, rapist or someone else who destroyed other people's lives for their own gain. A swift death is too quick for them in that case when they leave others dealing with shock, anger, loss, grief and sadness for years & decades after the action occurred. I feel no pity for those who commit those acts against another person and they get what they deserve.

With that being said, you're right the game says it's "recently deceased" citizens and soldiers. So the cyborg brains were already dead, and now they aren't. Is this a fate worse than death? Perhaps. We don't know because we can't talk to any of them but I can bet there are some who were afraid to die, but did anyway from some action not associated with Luci or anyone else in the leadership, who may not be as concerned that they are brought back.

We have no idea how long these people were dead before their brains were repurposed either, and we know what sort of damage just minutes without blood-flow and oxygen can do to thinking ability. For all we know *now* their supposed consciousness could be only rudimentary level where they just do basic commands and have no higher level cognition. The assumption some have now in the thread is they have the same thinking skills as someone who's actually living, and we just don't know.

However, yes the moral negativity is there from the little we have seen now, in that they would never be able to escape or earn freedom from their perpetual 'captivity'.
 
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Hawka1O7

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Great now we have Men of iron

Men of Iron? It's literally the opposite, it's the ServoSkulls of the modern Imperium. Luci likely doesn't have the ability to make true AI which is why she needs formerly dead brains in order to run the bot army.
 

Beefle

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Alright fellas, I need some help here. I downloaded the new updated game (0.5), just finished playing it, and it ended without me seeing any new content lol. I feel like I'm going crazy. It ends with Dante and Cicero having their second meeting where Dante informs him about MC being the cure to the virus. I didn't see shit about Luci's robot army. Please explain where my dumbass went wrong.
 

Reniere

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Alright fellas, I need some help here. I downloaded the new updated game (0.5), just finished playing it, and it ended without me seeing any new content lol. I feel like I'm going crazy. It ends with Dante and Cicero having their second meeting where Dante informs him about MC being the cure to the virus. I didn't see shit about Luci's robot army. Please explain where my dumbass went wrong.
Did you use a mod ? if yes remove it. if no redownload it has happened to me before on different games
 

Rockero_69

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Men of Iron? It's literally the opposite, it's the ServoSkulls of the modern Imperium. Luci likely doesn't have the ability to make true AI which is why she needs formerly dead brains in order to run the bot army.
I don't know, if you remember, but Aquina was about to kill the MC and then he goes towards the MC as if nothing happened.
 

Hawka1O7

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I don't know, if you remember, but Aquina was about to kill the MC and then he goes towards the MC as if nothing happened.
Err I think you're misremembering given we had a whole slew of awkward dialogue to get past that with Aquina next episode, and the reason she can probably do that is that she chose to spare the MC to begin with. And what exactly does this have to do with ServoSkulls in place of actual AI?
 

RewindWorld

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So anything we do is justified because everything the other side does is also wrong? Because you're missing the point of why this matters, which you can find plenty of examples real life and it would have nothing to do with New Antioch. It's wrong because you're sending the people of Aqua Palma to war under FALSE pretenses, to fight and die for you based on a lie and a crime you actually committed!? The concept of an illegal war matters for the one who declares it, it has nothing to do with what New Antioch is but his responsibility as the leader of Aqua Palma. You can lie and make up whatever you want, justify it however you want, but that's the truth, you're sending your people to kill and die on false pretenses. Look what it's doing to the tavern lady, who just wants her normal life and peace and stability back while being tormented by the truth and fear of what they're doing, including getting into bed with the same Criminal group that massacred your miners to begin with!

Your belief really doesn't matter against the facts. And the fact is if the brother had never blamed the MC for their Dad's death, MC could have easily gotten into New Antioch without that made up story. He wouldn't have been arrested, he wouldn't have been thrown into the dungeon, and he wouldn't have been almost executed. He probably wouldn't have even needed to sneak into the city, because New Antioch has free travel. Maybe Faustina might have secretly assassinated him (which the MC wouldn't have known at that time) still if she knew, but she'd never have the justification for a public execution and forcing the MC to fight for his life in the arena. The only reason to use that crime/cover story is to kill the MC, there's no other purpose for it and your belief doesn't change that.
Things will not improve in provinces w/o some drastic measures. NA is a giant parasite sucking everything of any worth from them, including people. There are certainly examples for this from RL, but not as drastic as in the game. Provinces stand no chance while NA is around or until it's weakened. But, that's a different topic.

It's not that easy to get into NA normally. It takes a long time and they don't like foreigners. The plan wasn't bad, it's just that he got caught purely by accident, but I don't think there was any deliberate intent to get MC killed. At least not from what we know so far. If that changes in future updates, I'll change my opinion.

If Aquila was given a chance to be forgiven for robbery and attempted assassination and Faustina is seemingly forgiven by default for ordering that robbery and assassination then Dante should get that same chance after he comes clean. It's all up to player, of course. Even the dog was forgiven for getting MC caught:LOL:
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d4cfufu

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so i downloaded the WT into the game, but in the saves there are already some on the tenth page but they aren't scenes I've seen before? did i miss it? I got to the part where the shapeshifter lady shows but then it says that's it for the content. what did i miss???
 
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