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VN Ren'Py New Year's Day(e) [Ch. 4 v0.4.1] [Jonesy]

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SonsOfLiberty

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Get rid of Bio-dad. Make a proper Ipatch. I don't understand, when the Dev had a great first game, he would nuke the story so thoroughly. Does he not understand what people actually want in an incest game? :unsure:
It's fucking incest damnit! :devilish:
First game was the same, it was part of the plot..


So what has changed exactly, and does this new a new save.
Changelog....

v0.2.4
I have received a lot of feedback about NYD chapter 2 over the past couple of weeks. Some was good, some was not so good. All of it is greatly appreciated, so thanks! It's because of this feedback that some errors were brought to my attention. It seems that I failed at conveying certain ideas, and in doing so, kinda screwed up the whole tone/feel of the story. I Have gone back and rewritten several parts of the story. While the overarching story line hasn't really changed, the MC's character arch is much more clear. I think that this update is a much more comprehensive version of the story I originally set out to tell in chapter 2. I think it stays more true to the original tone of Christmas Eve and NYD Chapter 1.

So, feel free to download v0.2.4 and replay it to get the full understanding of what was going on in the MC's head during all of this drama, and let me know what you think.

Sorry for not getting it right the first time around, but, hey, that's what the phrase "in development" means, right?
 
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SonsOfLiberty

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Yes I saw the change log, doesn't exactly say what is changed and if it is worth replaying.
Well, if he went back and re-wrote several parts of the story, nothing would be seen by loading an ending save...
 

Grordan

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I really don't understand it. What is the problem with the stepfather vs biological father?

Or basically, what is the attraction (for you) of incest? Is it simply the blood relationship. Or is there more to it than that?
Let's say an MC has daughters he knows nothing about. When he finds out about the daughters, they are already adults. Would it be incest if he now has sex with them? Would it also be incest if he knows nothing about the relationship?
Of course, legally it would be incest. But would it also deserve the incest tag?

For me, the appeal of incest is the power differential. It lies in the breaking of taboos, in doing something forbidden. In the feeling of exploiting or using a person for whom one actually bears responsibility.

All this is more true for a stepfather who has raised the daughters than for a biological father who has never met his daughters before.

And last but not least: Please, stop criticizing the dev for the story he wants to tell. Especially if you haven't even finished listening to the story yet. If you think you could tell the story better - you are free to make your own game that exactly fits your preferences.
 

Uthuriel

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For me, the appeal of incest is the power differential. It lies in the breaking of taboos, in doing something forbidden. In the feeling of exploiting or using a person for whom one actually bears responsibility.
Power differential has almost nothing to do with that... power differential is something every relationship ever has.
People aren't equal and never will be...
Exploitation isn't it either... that happens mostly in cases of child exploitation and pedophilia...
Taboo isn't a factor either... homosexuality was considered a taboo not long ago... nowadays nobody cares.

If find your perspective of the incest porn genre quite disturbing.
I think corruption is more your thing, regardless of genre.


The reason why stepcest is mostly looked down on is because it serves no purpose.
Stepcest is a bannable offense by the Patreon Terms of Service, there is no need for it at all.
People ask for incest patches for a reason. Nobody asks for a stepcest patch.
Those incest patches are also almost always provided by the dev themself, so they are part of the canon story.

For most people I'd argue that blood relation is a very important factor.
For me it is.
And last but not least: Please, stop criticizing the dev for the story he wants to tell. Especially if you haven't even finished listening to the story yet. If you think you could tell the story better - you are free to make your own game that exactly fits your preferences.
No. We are here to give feedback... if you think that's criticism... too bad for you...
 
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*Jonesy*

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Has it changed much because usually when "feedback" causes devs to make major changes i've not liked it very much so if it's much different to how it was i'll chalk this up to a loss and move on.
No major changes. Just some context to frame what was already there in a more fitting light. I didn't do a good job of it the first time around, so I added several "thoughts" throughout the chapter to give the reader the MC's frame of mind as it pertains to the different situations they find themselves in. The most major change is
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The reasons for this are further explained in other "thoughts" the MC has throughout the chapter. This was always the route I had in mind. There will also be ramifications in the subsequent chapters because of this. So, please read on and see where this weird, crazy story goes...
 

Deadmanvs1

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Just make incest an option in the settings and have it set to stepcest by default so the player has to manually change it or a patch. A few other games have done the setting route and are still on patreon.
 

RogueKnightUK

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Just make incest an option in the settings and have it set to stepcest by default so the player has to manually change it or a patch. A few other games have done the setting route and are still on patreon.
Other games that survive without any fear have the default set as 'family friend' and 'neighbour' and 'roommate' etc. Patreon make no distinction between incest and stepcest at all. They are the same thing. UK laws are even stricter than that, as anyone you have ever had a parental or guardianship role toward is basically covered, so this includes teachers, doctors, nannies, mentors, sports coaches, etc. Anyone who ever had the powers/status of ' ' basically.
 

Daddy-S

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Not sure how there is no kinetic tag but the only choice in this kn is to name the mc. You fuck and they fuck and you have no choice in the matter. Want to stick with your "family"? well tough shit its not your decision.

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I enjoyed the first installment but not this polyamory kn with a passive mc, that lets people talk shit to his girls and about the girls mother without blinking an eye.
 

Sngo

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I liked the previous game and the previous chapter, had the chapter 2 already downloaded but didn't have time to pick it up yet but hold on now the girls aren't mc daughters?
I started this game because of incest not because of stepcest. Honestly if it's true it's a huge let down, so if anyone confirm who is and isn't mc daughter would appreciate it, since now I dunno if I just delete the game or keep it.
Ty in advance
 
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