Unity Completed Night Of Revenge [v1.0.7] [D-Lis]

[nightsight]

Hey, here's 0.44 uncensored, enjoy!
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will the translation be updated also : )

 

[Mand21]

BTW, Augoeides, by "an enemy on the last area", you mean the rooftop, right?
After the laboratory, there's a chapel, I think. Then there are several areas within it.
It has... a minotaur, some plants (which either drop nothing when killed or cannot be killed), some inquisitors (characters who wield guns), some time stoppers, some female judges, and the bell user. At least, I think that's all. The inquisitors are both the golden gun wielder who forces you into a titjob, and the musket wielder who forces you into a normal blowjob.

As for your map, I think it's great! I mean, it's sure VERY incomplete, but I think if you just keep developing it on the same way you did so far, you'll have a good map once it's done. I just don't know how you're gonna make it big enough to fit all the areas, and on what directions are you going to expand the image file.
I also think you should probably add names to the icons. Like, by the side of the GUI at the top, you could add each of these icons you are drawing for items and important objects such as save points, and name each of them! This makes it easier to navigate the chart.

 

[PervyMage32]

BTW, Augoeides, by "an enemy on the last area", you mean the rooftop, right?
After the laboratory, there's a chapel, I think. Then there are several areas within it.
It has... a minotaur, some plants (which either drop nothing when killed or cannot be killed), some inquisitors (characters who wield guns), some time stoppers, some female judges, and the bell user. At least, I think that's all. The inquisitors are both the golden gun wielder who forces you into a titjob, and the musket wielder who forces you into a normal blowjob.

I don't know exactly, I was just spitballing, but if you can farm 3rd tier materials, White Cathedral would probably be the place to do it. Ultimately, it would probably be faster to just start a second save for the purposes of experimenting, although assuming you "can" get 3rd tier materials, the amount of experience you earn farming it would be good, and so far, saves seem to carry over to newer versions. At least, mine from v0.38 did, although I still decided to start over, and I'm glad I did, because otherwise I wouldn't have noticed the new area and the Boss. So if you don't mind starting the next update at like lv100+, could be a good investment?

I'm considering doing a loot table, but honestly, the mapping is starting to wear me out. I literally spent all day working on it, and I only got 2 more areas done, so I don't think I'll have the mental energy to keep digging into this game, for a while, anyway.

As for your map, I think it's great! I mean, it's sure VERY incomplete, but I think if you just keep developing it on the same way you did so far, you'll have a good map once it's done. I just don't know how you're gonna make it big enough to fit all the areas, and on what directions are you going to expand the image file.
I also think you should probably add names to the icons. Like, by the side of the GUI at the top, you could add each of these icons you are drawing for items and important objects such as save points, and name each of them! This makes it easier to navigate the chart.

Thanks! That was just a sample, and I didn't add a "Map Key" yet. I just left the stuff laying around the map, where it's convenient for me to copy/paste, but all that standard map stuff is planned. I'll probably toss them in the upper left corner of the map, because as I map out the game, it's obvious that Night of Revenge has some height to it, well over the starting woodland village.

Adding names to the Save Points would be nice, but as I look at what I've done so far, that would kind of clutter the map up. Becides, I'm marking the "Save Rooms" by a distinct rose color, with a book icon inside of it, and people can teleport between them at will, so I don't think that will be too much of an issue. I'm open to more suggestions though. Better to add stuff in now, then after I finish the map, because I'd have to probably move things around.

I just don't know how you're gonna make it big enough to fit all the areas, and on what directions are you going to expand the image file.

I'm actually genuinely concerned about that. I didn't think I would hit the MS Paint limitations by doing a map this way, but at the moment, I'm just finishing up adding the Underground Parish, and my map pixel size is 5,000 x 3,000. The pixel limitations for MS Paint is somewhere around 12,000 x 12,000, so I'm almost halfway there, width-wise. Thankfully, at least 3 of the remaining areas go underneath others, and White Cathedral just kind of stacks ontop of itself, so hopefully everything will fall into place.

At this point, mapping the game is becoming an obsession though. When I started working on it earlier today, the clock said 3PM, but now it's 1AM and my butt hasn't left this chair since. Thankfully, at least a few hours of that time was me just creating new icons and deciding on colors. Also, if I decide to map out some other game again, at least all of the groundwork will be done, and I can just focus on the mapping part. I am making the map way too damn fancy though, considering this game is just a poorly recreated porn version of Symphony of the Night. At this rate, the game might update before I ever finish.

 

[CaptainBipto]

Suzune is the Iaido Swordswoman I assume? I'm too lazy to check right now. After you meet her in the Bridge Block, she appears in the Underground Parish, just before the elevator that you can't get to yet (directly across from the fire rod and the mimic guarding it, if I remember correctly).

The third time, I think she appears appears in Ragdum (the Nightless Town), just at the entrance, or something like that. I can't remember if she appeared anywhere after that, she's a new addition to the game, as far as I know, and I don't remember seeing her at the "end" of this version.


Yeah, we all have that same flowchart map, although it's a little bit outdated, but still good, considering the updates don't add much. The game isn't even half finished yet, so don't expect a ton of story and dialog. There's really only like one side quest in the game right now, and that's killing the Blacksmith.

As I have been rambling about the past couple days, I am currently mapping the game out, although I just had to start over from scratch, so it set me back a while. I spent all night creating a new map template from scratch, but I only finished the first Area so far. Although, now that I have a template with fonts and map icons that I like, things should progress much faster now. I wasn't planning on mapping out "event progress though, since I thought that was self-explanatory, but I'll add stuff like Suzune to the map, when I get to them.

What I got done so far, feedback would be appreciated (as in, are the colors hard to read, is the map too small/big, etc.)

The map looks excellent (reminds me of maps you would get in old Nintendo games). The only thing I would suggest is drop the 'ideas' locations and only list major things like weapons, books, events (such as the mimics that drop items), or perhaps the power stone/chunk/magic rock locations.
The only reason I suggest that is that you can end up bogging down a map with too much information.

 

[CaptainBipto]

Why does Bone-Shaving Distorted Sword get no love? Q_Q

For the same reason my Church Long sword gets no love. Everyone has their favorite.
The bone sword is a very nice weapon, but I like the long sword since it has a dual damage type physical/(light or dark).

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I'd also love to know how to farm Power Rocks to upgrade some of my weapons.~ I definitely know how to farm Inspiration, but those are more difficult.

Thank you guys for posting guides in this thread is very helpful to this game . I just want to ask something i have so many weapons stuck a lv 2 i have only 3 maxed weapons is there any way to fully upgrade all of my weapons where can i find the last material needed to fully max my weapon does minotaurs drop that material ????

The only monster I know of that drops items to upgrade your weapons is a Knight. I don't know the name of the monster, but it appears in the Pilgrimage area and the Lunar Church. It is a tall, fully armored, character with a 2handed weapon. It only drops items for a level 2 (I think) upgrade.
The level 3 upgrade items seem to be fairly limited, I have only found 3 or 4 of them, all in various locations in the final maps.

 

[MacDakka]

At this point, mapping the game is becoming an obsession though. When I started working on it earlier today, the clock said 3PM, but now it's 1AM and my butt hasn't left this chair since. Thankfully, at least a few hours of that time was me just creating new icons and deciding on colors. Also, if I decide to map out some other game again, at least all of the groundwork will be done, and I can just focus on the mapping part. I am making the map way too damn fancy though, considering this game is just a poorly recreated porn version of Symphony of the Night. At this rate, the game might update before I ever finish.

I sincerely applaud your dedication, mate. I hope the project does not wear you out (too much), because if you manage to complete that map, it will be glorious.

 

[Mand21]

It will indeed be glorious if you manage to complete the map!
The reason I didn't mention many weapons is mainly because I don't know them very well yet! xD I want to catch'em all, but this game is A LOT about exploration which, while I appreciate being in a game, I myself am not yet so good at. There's a lot of hard to find stuff in Night of Revenge, which is why I'll really personally appreciate having your map to play with.

 

[Mand21]

So, I don't know how the hell I got "into" the forest originally, but you should be able to enter it through the "exit"? It's located in the Research Area (the "Prayer Room" teleport selection), at the very bottom. Just drop down the ladder from the save point to the lower floor, and follow it all the way left to here:
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I don't think you need a lever or anything to enter that door, I came out of it originally, anyway. After going through there, you'll enter the "Backyard", which is pretty a short linear in-between stage, before you eventually reach "The Canyon of Sinking", which is the forest I mentioned.
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Is there no direct teleport to this forest, btw? I'm really interested on it now lmao

 

[PervyMage32]

Is there no direct teleport to this forest, btw? I'm really interested on it now lmao

There is a save point in the forest, which is actually called "The Canyon of Sinking". I answered most of the stuff about that in a later post, as I was initially wrong about how to enter the Canyon. The main entrance comes right after you defeat the Spider Boss in the Abandoned Layer, the other entrance is through the Remniscats or whatever, after you beat the "fallen paladin?" Boss.

The reason I didn't mention many weapons is mainly because I don't know them very well yet! xD I want to catch'em all, but this game is A LOT about exploration which, while I appreciate being in a game, I myself am not yet so good at. There's a lot of hard to find stuff in Night of Revenge, which is why I'll really personally appreciate having your map to play with.

Right now, I'm finishing up mapping the Underground Holy Church. I'm pretty much on my way to the upper most floor of it, to map that out and fight the Inquisitor hoe. Despite having a full template of icons and colors now, mapping is actually taking longer, because starting at the Underground Parish, a lot of the areas loop around into themselves.

I lost a lot of time today, because right after you beat the "Church Beast", there's a hole in the floor that drops you down into the Underground Holy Church, and apparently my mapping of the Underground Parish didn't align up well with an Elevator after the fall through the floor, by a few screens, and later when I swooped back around to the elevator on the way to the Inquisitor, my map was off by another 3 screens. So that sucked. Everything is started to click into place better, but the second the game loops back into itself again, it's going to get frustrating.

I'll post what I have so far, when I finish up the Underground Holy Church; maybe in like half hour or so. Although, not sure how much use it will be to you, as I've only mapped about one third of the game, so far.

 

[Mand21]

Not sure if I ever fought the spider boss... I mean, if they must be fought in order to advance to the Gallery, then I definitely did, but I don't quite remember it! Is there a boss at this whole Jungle area that contains the forest?

Oh, and don't worry! Even if you post only an incomplete version of the map, I plan on using it to acquire as many items I missed as I possibly can.

For example, the girl who has the instakill Iaido sword... do you know where her fourth appearance might be, if there even is one? It seems like that Iaido sword is obtainable by talking to her enough times. I'd also like to know where to do that side-quest the game supposedly has.

And of course, I haven't yet figured out how to grab the item I need to upgrade items to the third level... I do totally have my Witch Blade on max level, though, but it seems to me like it will only be possible for me to find use in other weapons once they too are all max level, lmao. Every single other weapon I have right now is inferior to the Witch Blade to some extent.

 

[PervyMage32]

For example, the girl who has the instakill Iaido sword... do you know where her fourth appearance might be, if there even is one? It seems like that Iaido sword is obtainable by talking to her enough times. I'd also like to know where to do that side-quest the game supposedly has.

I don't think she has a fourth appearance. I never found her a fourth time when I last beat the game anyway, and I was pretty thorough. I don't think she gives you her sword. However, I do know where a weapon like her sword is. There's a Katana in the Nightless Town, along the bottom left corner somewhere, I think near the end of the map. I am about to map that area, but that might take a couple hours, so my current map won't display that. From what I remember, it's a decent weapon; it attacks hella fast with little delay, so it's probably a good endgame weapon, but I'm all about the Bone Sword, baby.

And of course, I haven't yet figured out how to grab the item I need to upgrade items to the third level... I do totally have my Witch Blade on max level, though, but it seems to me like it will only be possible for me to find use in other weapons once they too are all max level, lmao. Every single other weapon I have right now is inferior to the Witch Blade to some extent.

Well, the Witch's Blade swings pretty quick, but it hits pretty weakly, compared to a lot of other stuff, but it looks like that's all you got. Remember that you can use Flame Coatings, they usually add another +30 Fire Damage, or so. I spam them on Boss, and against the Holy Knights in the later stages.

Not sure if I ever fought the spider boss... I mean, if they must be fought in order to advance to the Gallery, then I definitely did, but I don't quite remember it! Is there a boss at this whole Jungle area that contains the forest?

The spider boss is in the Abandoned Lower Layer, which I think is underneath the Nightless Town. There's actually two paths to exit the Abandoned Lower Layer, so I wouldn't be surprised if you missed it, as I almost did this time around. When you get to the second Save Point in the Abandoned Lower Layer, you have the option to go up (which takes you to a door leading into Remniscat Forest) or go immediately to the right, which takes into to the Spider Boss, who is actually a bit hard.

After beating the Spider Boss, there's a ledge to the upper right you can jump to. Grabbing onto that takes you to an even lower area, which eventually drops you out into the Canyon of Sinking, with the only Save Point for that area right at it's entrance. The Ring of Haste is in the Canyon, and it's definitely worth the detour to get. It increases your Attack Speed by "one rating", so if your Witch's Blade was "Attack Speed B" it might become "Attack Speed B+" or "Attack Speed A", whatever the progression of this game is (I know there's a B- and C-, I don't know about B+ and C+ though).

The Canyon doesn't have a Boss, at the moment. It's just a side trip for some extra items. There might be a 3rd material item there, I remember there was some Latent Stone stuffs there, anyway. I think the end of the canyon winds back into the Fallen Paladin Boss, in Remniscat Forest, so I guess you could say he's also the Canyon Boss?

Oh, and don't worry! Even if you post only an incomplete version of the map, I plan on using it to acquire as many items I missed as I possibly can.

This is what I have so far.

 

[Mand21]

Thanks! I've saved some screenshots of your reply so I can try all of this in the game... now... how often does this game update? I feel like I'll go through all of its currently available content within a week or less.

 

[PervyMage32]

Thanks! I've saved some screenshots of your reply so I can try all of this in the game... now... how often does this game update? I feel like I'll go through all of its currently available content within a week or less.

I go through all of the content in a day, lol. I play a lot of Metroidvania's though, so I'm used to bouncing around large 2D maps.

I'm not sure how often Night of Revenge updates, but considering I missed 4 updates in the past half year, I'd say the game updates once every month or 2 months. It's probably once a month, with some delays. There really isn't much new to the game from a half year ago though (except the Canyon of Sinking, Suzune, and the Succubus Boss), so I don't think the game grows much with each update.

 

[Banshee96]

I go through all of the content in a day, lol. I play a lot of Metroidvania's though, so I'm used to bouncing around large 2D maps.

Are you used to bouncing on large 2D enemies?
Also, can't forget the addition of the prison area.

 

[PervyMage32]

Are you used to bouncing on large 2D enemies?

I've already listed like a dozen games from here worth playing, so yeah, haha.

Also, can't forget the addition of the prison area.

Oh yeah, I forgot about. It's an interesting place, but incredibly short, and I don't think it connects anywhere; it just literally loops in a circle back on itself. I don't think you even get any equipment there? I actually just unlocked access to the Prison on my fresh new "mapping save", but I ignored it for now, because the entrance to the Prison is in a "weird direction", so I'm putting it off for now.

I'll probably just mark it on my map as a downward entrance or something, but I don't want the Abandoned Lower Layer or something else suddenly bumping into it and costing me hours of re-edits.

I'm not really sure what the Developer's priority with the game is, but it's clearly an interesting take on Salt and Sanctuary, although without the depth. I hope they continue to make it more complex, and eventually redo the equipment system; I get bored using the same weapon every playthrough, because the others are unappealing to me. The only elemental enchantments in the game are Holy and Darkness, but only Holy does something (permanently slays the undead piles in Remniscat Forest), although just that one thing, and it's not really noteworthy otherwise (in my opinon, although someone else here claims that sword is really good, it attacks fast, anyway).

 

[Banshee96]

I don't think you even get any equipment there?

You get an axe from going bottom right, I think (recent update added the NPCs there, used to be empty). Didn't test the weapon so no clue if it's good either.

I hope they continue to make it more complex, and eventually redo the equipment system; I get bored using the same weapon every playthrough, because the others are unappealing to me. The only elemental enchantments in the game are Holy and Darkness, but only Holy does something (permanently slays the undead piles in Remniscat Forest), although just that one thing, and it's not really noteworthy otherwise (in my opinon, although someone else here claims that sword is really good, it attacks fast, anyway).

I think I mainly use that holy weapon now - I felt I had to because that bloody Succubus boss was quite the something that can't be cheesed using the starting weapon. (The starting weapon is really good to hold onto if you're new. Not that it matters with this kinda game )
Not really liking most of the weapons either and their lack of attribute effects. Some are just too unique from each other to use, over one that you've settled to use from choosing at random. You just stick with one that fits your playstyle. Though, I suppose, I would think this is quite normal given one of the game's inspirations is Dark Souls. (So many weapons...)

On another note, do you think they'll add non-sexual status effects? Like poison, freezing, or being on fire? (Okay, maybe the last one could lead to partial/full nudity but that would be a lot of drawing for the H scenes)

 

[PervyMage32]

I think I mainly use that holy weapon now - I felt I had to because that bloody Succubus boss was quite the something that can't be cheesed using the starting weapon. (The starting weapon is really good to hold onto if you're new. Not that it matters with this kinda game )

The Witch's Sword attacks nice, but once you get the Ring of Haste, it doesn't hold much of an advantage over other weapons. Also, the INT version of the blade kind of sucks, but I've already rambled about how this game screws over INT scaling and magick in general, in an earlier post. Did you know that magick can't even Critical? A lot of stuff needs a buff.

Not really liking most of the weapons either and their lack of attribute effects. Some are just too unique from each other to use, over one that you've settled to use from choosing at random. You just stick with one that fits your playstyle. Though, I suppose, I would think this is quite normal given one of the game's inspirations is Dark Souls. (So many weapons...)

Well, Dark Souls definitely had tier system of weapons, but at the very least at lot of them had something unique to keep them interesting, although I only played the original; I never got around to playing the last 2 or Demons Souls, mostly because I played the original on XBOX 360, and I quickly gave up that console due to a bunch of crap (I'm a PC gamer anyway). If they ever remaster DS 2 and 3, I'll grab those up (assuming they haven't, already).

Revenge of Night is definitely modeled after Salt and Sanctuary though, not Dark Souls. If you haven't played S&S, I HIGHLY recommend it. Definitely one of my favorite Metroidvania's. That game doesn't pull any punches, and has a ton of awesome equipment and builds, just like Dark Souls. Unfortunately, like Dark Souls, some of the more interesting equipment were bugged, and the developer never seemed to bother fixing that stuff. Amazing game though. Probably the only reason I'm as obsessed with RoN as I am, because they're so similar.

On another note, do you think they'll add non-sexual status effects? Like poison, freezing, or being on fire? (Okay, maybe the last one could lead to partial/full nudity but that would be a lot of drawing for the H scenes)

I highly doubt they will, or they would have done it already. Poisoning would be interesting to add to the game, but I guess that would mean adding antidotes too, so upto them if they want to code that much. When it comes to RPG's, I always like to poison/critical things. I always wanted that painting monster's tail dagger from Dark Souls 1 to be of good use, but I never quite got it to do anything better than the Silver Knight's Sword that I liked to much (it could be enchanted, and I liked the moveset).

Actually, on terms of nudity, I'm a bit disappointed that there's no "SFW Play Mode", although I guess that's more of a western concept. As I spent my entire day mapping out this game, I have to keep looking over my shoulder, incase someone comes into my room and sees Aradia shaking her huge Witch titties all over the place while she runs, just because her Victorian-Era ass whore clothes are made of paper and the damn Sewing Kits don't even work, so you can't repair them without a Save Point.

 

[Mand21]

Welp, now that my file is over level 100 (more precisely, currently at 116), I can officially say that I've gone through all the content this game currently has... On to Bullet Requiem, I guess! There's another forum that has it fully available for download and decently well translated, right? Not sure if this one does, though.

Also, I grabbed the katana (didn't upgrade to Iaido since I felt it was mediocre on that mode...) walked on that spider boss you told me about. It was a total pushover to my Level 100 stats and level II katana, even falling apart when I raised the difficulty to normal. Probably only a challenge at Very Hard, but I didn't bother to test because this game feels like, while Very Hard is the canonic difficulty, it wasn't really meant to be played on it as of yet (they didn't even implement a "struggle to stand up or escape rape" kinda mechanic, which I would LOVE to see since I weirdly like when games like this force me to struggle to escape assault, especially if it's actually kinda difficult or if, like capturing a pokémon, the difficulty increases if my health is low, the opponent is stronger and other such stuff).

Also, I >STILL< didn't manage to find any power rocks, and God only knows how many strong monsters I kept slaying, especially Minotaurs, Senior Inquisitors and these women with ice-like spells that get raped by time-stoppers. Well, basically everyone in the Roof of the White Cathedral, while prioritizing the stronger mobs (so I basically killed a fuckton of minotaurs). I want to know how to farm them so I can upgrade my other weapons to max level, damnit! >//< I really wanna see this katana have a 4-hit combo... Oh, gosh, I feel like it's gonna be AWESOME when it reaches that point. If you like your bone weapon which I didn't like that much, I feel like the katana is going to really become my favorite (already surpassed the witch blade and isn't even as maxed as the witch blade!) when it reaches max level.

 

[PervyMage32]

Welp, now that my file is over level 100 (more precisely, currently at 116), I can officially say that I've gone through all the content this game currently has... On to Bullet Requiem, I guess! There's another forum that has it fully available for download and decently well translated, right? Not sure if this one does, though.

What the hell is Bullet Requiem? I've never heard of it before. Just looked at some screenshots, looks decent. I don't bother with other forums, I thought this was the biggest forum for that stuff, although I guess there's others, but this one is the most trustworthy. You might get viruses from other sites. You can request games get added to forums, although you have to use a specific format, which I always found those confusing to find/use.

Might have to give Bullet Requiem a shot, although this mapping project is literally eating all my time Q_Q

Also, I grabbed the katana (didn't upgrade to Iaido since I felt it was mediocre on that mode...) walked on that spider boss you told me about. It was a total pushover to my Level 100 stats and level II katana, even falling apart when I raised the difficulty to normal. Probably only a challenge at Very Hard, but I didn't bother to test because this game feels like, while Very Hard is the canonic difficulty, it wasn't really meant to be played on it as of yet (they didn't even implement a "struggle to stand up or escape rape" kinda mechanic, which I would LOVE to see since I weirdly like when games like this force me to struggle to escape assault, especially if it's actually kinda difficult or if, like capturing a pokémon, the difficulty increases if my health is low, the opponent is stronger and other such stuff).

I usually play the game on Very Hard, but it's less punishing on lower modes. I suppose I should try max difficulty, at some point. Maybe after I finish my map, and can come up with some kind of a strategy.

Also, I >STILL< didn't manage to find any power rocks, and God only knows how many strong monsters I kept slaying, especially Minotaurs, Senior Inquisitors and these women with ice-like spells that get raped by time-stoppers. Well, basically everyone in the Roof of the White Cathedral, while prioritizing the stronger mobs (so I basically killed a fuckton of minotaurs). I want to know how to farm them so I can upgrade my other weapons to max level, damnit! >//< I really wanna see this katana have a 4-hit combo... Oh, gosh, I feel like it's gonna be AWESOME when it reaches that point. If you like your bone weapon which I didn't like that much, I feel like the katana is going to really become my favorite (already surpassed the witch blade and isn't even as maxed as the witch blade!) when it reaches max level.

Yeah, the Katana seems like the default "next weapon" to use (after Witch's Sword). Maybe I'll try beating the game with one of the gigantic weapons, just to see how viable they are. Although, I just remembered you can re-challenge Bosses, so that's a thing.

The materials probably aren't in the game then. I'm hoping in later updates that the weapons go beyond Tier 3; most Souls-likes allow at least 5+ upgrades.

 

[f9account]

Oh, Alien Quest EVE has system requirements that seem to suit me even though the download runs the risk of working only with 64-bits windows (I use a 32-bits/x86 windows), I'll test it! Any other similar games?
I personally have a rape fetish, even though I'm not that fond of monsters&ugly characters, so these two and Parasite in City/Ghost Hunter Vena suit me well, but could do better.

Some similar 2d games with heroines fighting against tentacle monsters and possible pregnancy:
Mission Mermaiden
Iris in Labyrinth (make sure it's SE to avoid the bad parts)
Hounds of the Meteor (WIP)
The Agnietta (technically not platformer but still 2d action vs monsters)
Crisis Point Extinction (not really the same intense rush as the others but still decent platformer)

As I spent my entire day mapping out this game, I have to keep looking over my shoulder, incase someone comes into my room and sees Aradia shaking her huge Witch titties all over the place while she runs

Rookie H gamer mistake, man. You gotta rearrange your room so the screen isn't seen instantly from the open door. Best possible way is to have the back of the screen face the doorway.