VN Ren'Py No More Money [v3.5.1 S3 Ep.5 GE] [RoyalCandy]

[Poser_Voyeur]

So, having played through both career paths now, I was pretty disappointed to find that there's NO way to avoid cheating on Emma in some fashion, nor can you start a relationship with Lily or Lauren without lying to them either.

It's also pretty weird that the MC has a problem with a single kiss, but then has no further problem with much more serious cheating almost immediately after that, and many times since.

Mind you, there is the option to break up with Emma shortly after cheating, but since there's no real justification for doing so the MC rightly comes off as a petty douchebag who can't wait two measly months for her to move there permanently when there's absolutely nothing wrong with the relationship from her side and he apparently still loves her - and it's certainly not a clean break.

Also, why did Emma get a sudden boobjob during the timeskip? What was the reason for that, with no discussion or anything in-game beforehand, just "by the way, this happened"?

Everything outside of that relationship is based on an opt-in choice, with differing degrees of shittiness from the MC in terms of getting involved, it's just really weird that there's a very messy opt-out choice with no way to avoid hurting people no matter what you do, right from the start of the game - and no-one so far has had the decency to TELL her she's being cheated on or call the MC out on it in any significant way, despite Charlotte and Tris both knowing it, and with Charlotte supposedly having a great liking for her.

I agree. There did nt feel like any point in splitting up with Emma after just the one kiss, given the circumstances. But then there was nt any opportunities to do so later when the MC started having feelings and sex with Lisa.

 

[Gwydion]

I agree. There did nt feel like any point in splitting up with Emma after just the one kiss, given the circumstances. But then there was nt any opportunities to do so later when the MC started having feelings and sex with Lisa.

Later conversations with Emma only make things worse too, since it's only then that you find out her history and her total absence of self-esteem, and it's made abundantly clear that if the MC were to break up with her (even at the start of the story when you're able to) or she were to find out about his cheating, it would absolutely ruin her - and she'd almost certainly end up either prostituting herself, having a total breakdown, and/or killing herself.

And she's a character you're forced into a relationship with from the start of the game, meaning you either stay faithful from the very beginning, before having a chance to meet or get to know the other LIs, or let her down hard when she's not done a single thing to deserve it; it's just plain distasteful.

It was also perversely laughable when the MC had the gall to self-righteously get angry at Erwin for treating Charlotte like a whore, given what he himself had likely been up to at that point - even without any cheating at all, he still treats Emma like one.

 

[Hildegardt]

It feel less like that to me, and more that she's being written with the sole purpose of treating her like garbage as much as possible.

Turning her into a real character with a backstory and motivations only after introducing her as a vapid gold digger and making her disappear from the game for a little was a sly move.
I almost hope she gets a redemption and is going to be the character that introduces some consequences to the happy-go-lucky cheating of the MC.

 

[Gwydion]

Turning her into a real character with a backstory and motivations only after introducing her as a vapid gold digger and making her disappear from the game for a little was a sly move.
I almost hope she gets a redemption and is going to be the character that introduces some consequences to the happy-go-lucky cheating of the MC.

There's that too - she never WAS a gold-digger, that was just Tris being a bitch claiming that she was, with no indication otherwise (to the player, or the MC in-universe) that it was true.

She doesn't need redemption, because she's done nothing wrong. All she needs is some self-esteem, and to be actually loved.

There have been several near-misses for the cheating to be found out, with Emma, Lily, and Lauren almost meeting at the college, and with Emma, Tris, and Lily all being noted to be sharing some classes there.

The MC will absolutely deserve it when it blows up in his face, but the fallout for the girls will be tragic.

 

[Hildegardt]

There's that too - she never WAS a gold-digger, that was just Tris being a bitch claiming that she was, with no indication otherwise (to the player, or the MC in-universe) that it was true.

She doesn't need redemption, because she's done nothing wrong. All she needs is some self-esteem, and to be actually loved.

There have been several near-misses for the cheating to be found out, with Emma, Lily, and Lauren almost meeting at the college, and with Emma, Tris, and Lily all being noted to be sharing some classes there.

The MC will absolutely deserve it when it blows up in his face, but the fallout for the girls will be tragic.

Watch Emma be one of those cringy characters that's OK with sharing the MC, because she "loves him so much and doesn't want to lose him".

To me it would be a redemption, if she can overcome her difficulties and gain independence. But that will never happen, because she's a love interest in a porn game, which don't usually get actual character arcs other than progressing from hj to bj and from vaginal to anal.
It's more likely that she gets turned into a bimbo. The fake tits are the first step.

 

[Gwydion]

Watch Emma be one of those cringy characters that's OK with sharing the MC, because she "loves him so much and doesn't want to lose him".

To me it would be a redemption, if she can overcome her difficulties and gain independence. But that will never happen, because she's a love interest in a porn game, which don't usually get actual character arcs other than progressing from hj to bj and from vaginal to anal.
It's more likely that she gets turned into a bimbo. The fake tits are the first step.

I'm fairly sure you're right about the sharing, which I'd be completely happy with if done well; I'm also hoping you turn out to be wrong about her character arc, and she starts being treated well instead - maybe reverse the boobjob down the track (where did she even get the money for that, anyway?)

It's such a shame, because the plot is interesting, the girls are pretty much all gorgeous and decent people, the animation is well-done and varied, and the writing and the dialogue between characters is generally excellent, flows well, and is fun and believable in terms of how people speak to each other; unfortunately Emma keeps being degraded repeatedly for no reason, and the MC as a person just plain sucks.

 

[adithyabshah15]

Android version update

 

[royalcandy]

Hey royalcandy I really love your work and your games but the one thing that jars me, is the lack of focus on the MILFs, you create great assets but never really develop their stories. Now I am loving what I see with Charlotte in this update, I hope she stays the main focus in you game. I can't speak for anyone else but for me she is the main goal and objective, I rather have a complex story focused on her (or 2-3 characters) than too many characters which leads too meaningless lust.

This may or may not have been mentioned in the thread but I thought I'd share. Charlotte so far is the biggest draw in this game and what upsets me the most is when devs don't capitalize on what makes their games so great, instead focus on side characters who don't move the narrative.

Keep up the good work regardless, looking forward to the next update!

There is a thing that I never shared about my games is

Well, Sis' story is stuck basically after the Red Maiden story arc. Mom's story has it's moment, and *SPOILER* MC just messed up their first time together.

I"m not sure what Red Maiden is. Can you explain it to me a little bit or at least tell me where it comes from, so I can avoid having the same story.
Cheers

 

[Havenless_]

I"m not sure what Red Maiden is. Can you explain it to me a little bit or at least tell me where it comes from, so I can avoid having the same story.
Cheers

I don't know why, but I think he is talking about the Photo Hunt game. Maybe he got the game mixed up. lol

 

[royalcandy]

I don't know why, but I think he is talking about the Photo Hunt game. Maybe he got the game mixed up. lol

Oh... Yeah, I can see the similarities now.
Tris's story was planned way before me playing that game. It's actually Jackie's story from Rejected No More, but since that game was put on hold I kinda took a lot of things from it.
But don't worry, it won't be the same as in Photo Hunt.

 

[WaifuCollector]

Android Version Please

 

[Nemo56]

There is a thing that I never shared about my games is

I"m not sure what Red Maiden is. Can you explain it to me a little bit or at least tell me where it comes from, so I can avoid having the same story.
Cheers

My bad. I was in the wrong browser tab, wrong thread/game. Sorry.

It WAS about photohunt, as mentioned by others earlier. And no, I don't think the stories are the same. the question about mom/sis was generic, so I didn't notice being on the wrong tab.

 

[REGUser]

There is a thing that I never shared about my games is

Care to share? What is the "thing" you never shared about your games?

Please tell me you don't hate MILFs I think I will have to find another game then...

MILFs are the best! It's all about conquering their minds, since the MC is usually an idiot or immature in life and he's persuading a mature woman who then gets seduced by him, or better yet, she peruses him which makes the taboo even spicier.

I love the manipulation, corruption and slow seduction in these types of games with the MILF. The "lil sis" or "big sis" bores me, since they all act like sluts or come on too strong on the MC who was chasing but gets quickly put in the driver's seat. There's no real conquer there. Also girls the MC's age bother me, since again the immaturity thing is a real turn off...most of them are poorly written / act so cringe and will over night just do anything for the MC because they had sex with him one time...yawn.

I like when the MC goes from stupid boy to showing he's a man, it shows growth in the character and becomes "man enough" to take on the unrealistically beautiful MILF who has to be broken down with all the morals she has but also enjoys the flirt.

If that doesn't get your pecker twitching then I don't know what will. Story and pacing is so important, but not SLOW BURN that kills the vibe of the game. Hence why I think now that we got a good cliffhanger with Charlotte, we shouldn't wait much longer for the "kill" and focus on her content more!

 

[royalcandy]

Care to share? What is the "thing" you never shared about your games?

Please tell me you don't hate MILFs I think I will have to find another game then...

MILFs are the best! It's all about conquering their minds, since the MC is usually an idiot or immature in life and he's persuading a mature woman who then gets seduced by him, or better yet, she peruses him which makes the taboo even spicier.

I love the manipulation, corruption and slow seduction in these types of games with the MILF. The "lil sis" or "big sis" bores me, since they all act like sluts or come on too strong on the MC who was chasing but gets quickly put in the driver's seat. There's no real conquer there. Also girls the MC's age bother me, since again the immaturity thing is a real turn off...most of them are poorly written / act so cringe and will over night just do anything for the MC because they had sex with him one time...yawn.

I like when the MC goes from stupid boy to showing he's a man, it shows growth in the character and becomes "man enough" to take on the unrealistically beautiful MILF who has to be broken down with all the morals she has but also enjoys the flirt.

If that doesn't get your pecker twitching then I don't know what will. Story and pacing is so important, but not SLOW BURN that kills the vibe of the game. Hence why I think now that we got a good cliffhanger with Charlotte, we shouldn't wait much longer for the "kill" and focus on her content more!

Sorry I was writing a huge message and then deleted it because I didn't liked how it sounded.

What I wanted to say was that almost ever girl from my games are inspired by girls I've meet/date during Highschool and College and during that time I interacted only with teens, that's why my games have more teens, because it's easier for me to write them.

I'm struggling a little bit writing good MILFs. I had to read a lot of books to create events with MILFs, because it doesn't come quite natural, even though I love MILFs. It's just like you said, it's all about conquering their minds that's why I struggle.

 

[zeromike]

Sorry I was writing a huge message and then deleted it because I didn't liked how it sounded.

What I wanted to say was that almost ever girl from my games are inspired by girls I've meet/date during Highschool and College and during that time I interacted only with teens, that's why my games have more teens, because it's easier for me to write them.

I'm struggling a little bit writing good MILFs. I had to read a lot of books to create events with MILFs, because it doesn't come quite natural, even though I love MILFs. It's just like you said, it's all about conquering their minds that's why I struggle.

Don't take this the wrong way because overall the game is good and Tris/Charlotte are decent characters but the MILFs and sidegirls in this game are largely one dimensional. Darlene/Kat are lesbians in an open relationship...Darlene bragged about how many guys she had and Kat is the same but she is a former hooker who sells a date rape style drug, has a bdsm club and is implicated in a disappearance. Denise is a slutty Aunt trying to impart her wisdom to Tris about there being "no right one" and to just have fun. Don't even get me started on Lauren dropping to her knees and Lisa kissing the Mc like it was her job. Sheila isn't bad but the intimacy went too fast and feels forced. Poor Emma is nice enough but suffers from being the MC's default GF and she has a big head.
Tris/Charlotte/Emma are the only women who don't seem to walk around with their overused pussies on display the whole time. Honestly the game suffers from too much "wink wink" she's a slut moments. Even when you turn them down they still act the same most of the time or like Lauren/Lisa blame the MC because they acted like sluts and the MC didn't judo throw them.
The story seemed a lot better when dropping the side chicks honestly. Again other people can have their opinion about the side chicks but Tris/Charlotte are the only girls with any buildup that makes sense and their feelings lend the story some nice moments.

 

[huahanglol]

does this game have any sex scenes yet?

(I've already completed no more secrets long ago)

 

[binglebangles]

Sorry I was writing a huge message and then deleted it because I didn't liked how it sounded.

What I wanted to say was that almost ever girl from my games are inspired by girls I've meet/date during Highschool and College and during that time I interacted only with teens, that's why my games have more teens, because it's easier for me to write them.

I'm struggling a little bit writing good MILFs. I had to read a lot of books to create events with MILFs, because it doesn't come quite natural, even though I love MILFs. It's just like you said, it's all about conquering their minds that's why I struggle.

Before the realization of what "Red Maiden" post was actually all about, I was doing some googling and stumbled across this. Maybe this would be interesting to you.

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[REGUser]

Sorry I was writing a huge message and then deleted it because I didn't liked how it sounded.

What I wanted to say was that almost ever girl from my games are inspired by girls I've meet/date during Highschool and College and during that time I interacted only with teens, that's why my games have more teens, because it's easier for me to write them.

I'm struggling a little bit writing good MILFs. I had to read a lot of books to create events with MILFs, because it doesn't come quite natural, even though I love MILFs. It's just like you said, it's all about conquering their minds that's why I struggle.

I totally respect that, we all have to draw from experiences but lets be real, none of us are getting with MILFs lol that genre is more for fantasy. I suggest playing: Midnight Paradise, A Mother's Love, Heartproblems, Where The Heart Is, (dare I say...) even the illustrious Milfy City's Linda (just her content alone carries the whole weight of that game). There are many more but those are off the top of my head and have already gone deep in the corruption and/or deep love route.

The general idea is the "MILF" (landlady wink wink) has reservations of her new found feelings and the MC keeps pushing and opens up about his love for her and slowly charms her and breaks her down, it's a back and forth of resistance and chipping away at her morale before finding a reason to break that seal OR the MILF can peruse the MC half way after finding her feelings early usually hating the "landlord" and finds sexual, emotional and intimate fulfillment with MC and then plan a life together.

It's all just fantasy hence why this genre of porn is quite unique, you can make these stories up and take your audience along for the ride. I am willing to sit through Charlottes rollercoaster if I know she is the main focus of the game (which I feel she is) but I hope you don't backseat her or push her to the side, there's not enough good MILF games (they get half way and abandon ship) but there's plenty of generic teen girl ones.

I hope you take this into consideration when making this game, since the ending to this update shows a lot of promise for Charlotte!

 

[altmas66]

the incest patch is 2.3, works with 2.4 version too?

 

[Interesting_name82]

Damn still no android, we shall wait