VN Ren'Py Abandoned Oath of Loyalty [Ch. 10] [Silk Ari/REV]

[AngelsAfterDark]

bro I haven't played in a while but I believe that even if you don't come inside she still gets pregnant

Exatcly, I honestly don't see why the dev would make the pregnancy thing unavoidable when it won't even play a role in the game , either you leave with Jane where in the future she and your Daughter both gets murdered or be a scumbag and abandon your child (there's no good option) and now the dev has no interest in Janes story or continuing it.
Could at least let the daughter live and be a main part of the story in part 2, she could be MCs halo for whenever he feels darksided.

 

[rev_01]

Exatcly, I honestly don't see why the dev would make the pregnancy thing unavoidable when it won't even play a role in the game , either you leave with Jane where in the future she and your Daughter both gets murdered or be a scumbag and abandon your child (there's no good option) and now the dev has no interest in Janes story or continuing it.
Could at least let the daughter live and be a main part of the story in part 2, she could be MCs halo for whenever he feels darksided.

Dude, I'm a completely different developer. If you've read the thread you would know that I cannot change the events from Part 1. It's not that I have no interest in continuing it, well it is that, but there's just not much room for me to even continue it with. Like you said, you either left and died or stayed and abandoned her. She left to get away from it all with her daughter, there's not much sense in bringing her back. Like she could die and then her daughter could come like you said, but that just seems silly for that to happen. I'm trying to reset some storylines because I feel like everything got a bit out of hand and I want to focus properly on the development of the plot and the characters and having that storyline happen kinda throws a spanner in the works.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Dude, I'm a completely different developer. If you've read the thread you would know that I cannot change the events from Part 1. It's not that I have no interest in continuing it, well it is that, but there's just not much room for me to even continue it with. Like you said, you either left and died or stayed and abandoned her. She left to get away from it all with her daughter, there's not much sense in bringing her back. Like she could die and then her daughter could come like you said, but that just seems silly for that to happen. I'm trying to reset some storylines because I feel like everything got a bit out of hand and I want to focus properly on the development of the plot and the characters and having that storyline happen kinda throws a spanner in the works.

yeah but it's not just her daughter

it's are daughter to

for a lot of us we didn't choose the mother

doesn't mean we want our daughter to be taken away

 

[jkjkjkjkjk]

I think you should leave Jane out if she isn't part of your plans. Think players know when storylines are forced and not naturally a part of the creators vision. Since she left anyways I say you decide it is agreed that you will not have contact or know where she is because it's to dangerous for her with your lifestyle. That way if you were into Jane you can say you are doing it out of true love to make sure she leads a happy and safe life and if the player wasn't it works as they won't miss her.

 

[rev_01]

yeah but it's not just her daughter

it's are daughter to

for a lot of us we didn't choose the mother

doesn't mean we want our daughter to be taken away

Ok, then leave with her too and go down that route for the ending

 

[Reifon]

The MC is already on the road of revenge, there is no need for another revenge drama, if another person whom the MC cares about dies, it will only make the MC seem incompetent.

To be honest, I quite like Jane. Your choice is not a choice for me at all. If you stay, you will die. If you don’t, you will disappear. If you want Jane to stay, there should be other ways. People will change.

MC's family was also seriously hurt at the end of part 1, the situation is different, Jane was angry and wanted to leave in part 1, maybe she was so angry that she wanted to stay after knowing what happened to MC.

Or MC put it in a safe place to protect her, and occasionally MC will visit her as a small branch. No one said that the character must be linked to the main line. I think it is feasible as a small branch. , I really don't want to see that shit happen again in The Last of Us 2

It's even weirder to just let the daughter stay, Jane wants to leave with the baby alone at first, and then asks her to abandon the baby in part 2, which just strikes me as inexplicable.

Of course this is just my idea, glad someone took over the game, I cheer for you

 

[rev_01]

The MC is already on the road of revenge, there is no need for another revenge drama, if another person whom the MC cares about dies, it will only make the MC seem incompetent.

To be honest, I quite like Jane. Your choice is not a choice for me at all. If you stay, you will die. If you don’t, you will disappear. If you want Jane to stay, there should be other ways. People will change.

MC's family was also seriously hurt at the end of part 1, the situation is different, Jane was angry and wanted to leave in part 1, maybe she was so angry that she wanted to stay after knowing what happened to MC.

Or MC put it in a safe place to protect her, and occasionally MC will visit her as a small branch. No one said that the character must be linked to the main line. I think it is feasible as a small branch. , I really don't want to see that shit happen again in The Last of Us 2

It's even weirder to just let the daughter stay, Jane wants to leave with the baby alone at first, and then asks her to abandon the baby in part 2, which just strikes me as inexplicable.

Of course this is just my idea, glad someone took over the game, I cheer for you

He's not necessarily on the road to revenge yet. In Part 1, the main villain was the bringer of death, but Bella killed him, so there's technically nobody to get revenge against. I could do a side branch, but I need people to also understand though that there are currently 10 LIs in the game. I also would like to introduce one or two more for Part 2 to further the plot. It's necessary so those two new characters are non negotiable. That means I'm going to be juggling 12 LIs on top of also developing the main story line as well as all the other plot threads interwoven into the game. That's a lot to deal with, especially as a solo dev. Handling them all would mean development will take a very long time.

Leaving Jane out of future installments doesn't just make sense from a narrative standpoint (because as I said, you either left with her and died or chose to stay and sure I could make it so MC feels guilty for abandoning his kid and giving another option to the player to visit Jane and his kid occasionally, but how would Jane and this kid then fit into the storyline? She doesn't really serve a purpose anymore. She moved away from everything to get away from the Mafia life. I could do a storyline where maybe someone finds out MC has a kid, kidnaps them, etc. and involve Jane that way, and I'm sure others have ideas, but otherwise, you'd just be visiting Jane very casually to see your kid and fuck basically and that just seems silly to me. Why have a LI in the game who doesn't serve any purpose to the plot at all and doesn't advance it), but leaving Jane out also makes sense from a development standpoint because it means less work for me, more time to focus on other characters and their progression, as well as the progression of the main story.

That's where my head is at. I'm open to suggestions. If someone suggests an idea I like or can work into my plan for the storyline with Jane, I will use it. I'm not closed off to ideas and I will listen to player feedback, but those are just my feelings surrounding the matter.

 

[Reifon]

He's not necessarily on the road to revenge yet. In Part 1, the main villain was the bringer of death, but Bella killed him, so there's technically nobody to get revenge against. I could do a side branch, but I need people to also understand though that there are currently 10 LIs in the game. I also would like to introduce one or two more for Part 2 to further the plot. It's necessary so those two new characters are non negotiable. That means I'm going to be juggling 12 LIs on top of also developing the main story line as well as all the other plot threads interwoven into the game. That's a lot to deal with, especially as a solo dev. Handling them all would mean development will take a very long time.

Leaving Jane out of future installments doesn't just make sense from a narrative standpoint (because as I said, you either left with her and died or chose to stay and sure I could make it so MC feels guilty for abandoning his kid and giving another option to the player to visit Jane and his kid occasionally, but how would Jane and this kid then fit into the storyline? She doesn't really serve a purpose anymore. She moved away from everything to get away from the Mafia life. I could do a storyline where maybe someone finds out MC has a kid, kidnaps them, etc. and involve Jane that way, and I'm sure others have ideas, but otherwise, you'd just be visiting Jane very casually to see your kid and fuck basically and that just seems silly to me. Why have a LI in the game who doesn't serve any purpose to the plot at all and doesn't advance it), but leaving Jane out also makes sense from a development standpoint because it means less work for me, more time to focus on other characters and their progression, as well as the progression of the main story.

That's where my head is at. I'm open to suggestions. If someone suggests an idea I like or can work into my plan for the storyline with Jane, I will use it. I'm not closed off to ideas and I will listen to player feedback, but those are just my feelings surrounding the matter.

This is a continuation work, isn't it, just give up the character because you can't find the purpose of the character, that is a different work with the same appearance, according to your point of view, then I don't think many characters are necessary,
MC's mother and sister can also be applied, they do not participate in the actions of the underworld, MC will not agree, they are just MC's relatives, they have no effect on the plot, there is no difference.

You might say it's his mother or his sister, but you don't even care about your own children and the people who have given birth to them, why should you care

Anyway, no matter how you arrange it, I want to see how it goes, I don't really care how Jane arranges it, that's your game, I just want to know why, because to me they make no difference.
Thank you for responding to me, I want you to know, I appreciate you taking this game, I love it, one last question, is your patreon enabled, I can't wait to be your supporter

 

[rev_01]

This is a continuation work, isn't it, just give up the character because you can't find the purpose of the character, that is a different work with the same appearance, according to your point of view, then I don't think many characters are necessary,
MC's mother and sister can also be applied, they do not participate in the actions of the underworld, MC will not agree, they are just MC's relatives, they have no effect on the plot, there is no difference.

You might say it's his mother or his sister, but you don't even care about your own children and the people who have given birth to them, why should you care

Anyway, no matter how you arrange it, I want to see how it goes, I don't really care how Jane arranges it, that's your game, I just want to know why, because to me they make no difference.
Thank you for responding to me, I want you to know, I appreciate you taking this game, I love it, one last question, is your patreon enabled, I can't wait to be your supporter

I understand my decisions surrounding the LIs may frustrate people. Unfortunately in this industry, there are only so many people I can make happy. Regardless of what I do, there will still be people who are opposed to my decisions. The main difference between Jane and Sofia, Mary and the other LIs, is that I have a plan for the rest of them. Or, at least most of them. Those that don't fit so much into those plans will unfortunately be getting less screen time in the game to further the plot and give more opportunities for the other characters to grow.

I know that will piss quite a few people off, especially if their primary LI is the one getting less screen time, and I can completely understand how that may evoke feelings in some people and they may not want to continue the game. Here's the thing right, and I don't say this to disrespect Ari or his work, in fact, I think Ari did a fantastic job with the game, as can be seen from the fact there is quite a strong community surrounding it, but this is more just my own personal critique and it's not due to him being a bad developer, it's just largely due to different priorities within the development of the game. Ari primarily wanted this game to be a porn game with story elements in a sense. The story isn't underdeveloped per se, but quite a bit of focus was put towards the sex and the build up to that. And that's completely fine, of course, for a lot of people, that's what they're here for and that's what floats their boat rather than the story. He knew his audience, appealed to it and executed it. To me personally, that resulted in a lot of the characters being underdeveloped. They were to me, more walking sex dolls rather than living characters involved in the plot.

Personally, as a developer, I am very big on the story elements to a game. I love writing and it's a massive passion of mine, so I'm constantly brainstorming and coming up with ideas I think are cool and would work for the story. Part of that involves coming up with ideas for the characters that are in the game. I have ideas for quite a few characters that will give them more of a purpose and involvement in the story going forward, but I will give everyone a disclaimer now and say Jane isn't the only one I don't necessarily have plans for going forward. And that doesn't mean I'm going to kill off characters for the sake of it or anything like that, it just means they won't necessarily be at the forefront of my development of the game. The characters I have a plan for will take priority with the screen time, and I do have plans for Sofia and Mary for example which is why they will be getting screen time and they will have an effect on the plot, unlike Jane. I don't want to force a storyline for Jane for the sake of it, when her character specifically dislikes the Mafia element of MCs life. And trust me, I would love to go back and change Part 1. Have it so either Jane doesn't leave and make her a part of Part 2 still, or give a happy ending for her character and the MC, but I can't do that as much as I want to, and again, if someone has a realistic and sensible way to work her into the story, I will happily do so if it's what the majority wants.

Also yeah, the Patreon is currently active, it's linked on the home page of the thread, but I'll post the link here as well:

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[Mmushy]

IMO it all depends on the story you want to write.
While it's nice to survey your audience, in the end it's your vision. Write what you want to write otherwise it will be an unenjoyable chore for you.
For me, if I'm in it for the story; a crime family story, there will be a reduction in the LIs.
LI will be strictly what it means Love Interest. There will be side pussy but there must be a separation between the 2. Some you fuck, some you love.

I honestly don't remember the names but...
Innocent cousin; don't need her.
Slutty cousin; don't need.
Aunt: don't need
Mom: as adviser but not LI
Sis: maybe moral guide, undecided on LI
Cop: side pussy
Bar manager: side pussy
Jane: definitely don't need
Bella: LI
Angela: LI

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

IMO it all depends on the story you want to write.
While it's nice to survey your audience, in the end it's your vision. Write what you want to write otherwise it will be an unenjoyable chore for you.
For me, if I'm in it for the story; a crime family story, there will be a reduction in the LIs.
LI will be strictly what it means Love Interest. There will be side pussy but there must be a separation between the 2. Some you fuck, some you love.

I honestly don't remember the names but...
Innocent cousin; don't need her.
Slutty cousin; don't need.
Aunt: don't need
Mom: as adviser but not LI
Sis: maybe moral guide, undecided on LI
Cop: side pussy
Bar manager: side pussy
Jane: definitely don't need
Bella: LI
Angela: LI

well that's not really my thing

I'm not really into.side pussy

I'm into serious relationships

but I don't mind if it's in the game if it's optional.

 

[Mmushy]

well that's not really my thing

I'm not really into.side pussy

I'm into serious relationships

but I don't mind if it's in the game if it's optional.

In that case, it will be down to one LI.

 

[Bay7]

I am really glad to see this game get back on track, I want to see this game reach its conclusion.
As for Jane, it's kinda messy how she left..but I don't care for her and don't really want to see her storyline continues in part2.
Maybe after things will calm down, we can visit them and give them some money for the child's future education or something (breaking bad style). That probably will make us feel less guilty about abandoning them.

 

[Aristos]

Jane was by far the worst of all the female characters. Sorry that it had to end for her so... abruptly, but good riddance.

My best wishes to the new dev. And please, give us at least something with all the girls from Part 1, including sweet Julia and the aunt.
I agree that Angela and Bella should always have been the main love interests, but it will be weird to just see the others vanish.

 

[darth_hiruma]

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Hey everyone! You've asked and asked, and it was only right I listened! Due to an insane amount of demand, everyone's favourite coffee girl is making a return! It's taken a bit of planning and discussing in order to incorporate her properly, and the best idea that I came up with was to incorporate her into an already existing story line which could work with her character. In Part 1, MC was attending University and it was said he was close to finishing, however, nothing more was said and that storyline just disappeared. I'm bringing that storyline back to have MC finish his degree and expose him to the world of university again, but this time, with you, the player, tagging along for the ride. MC's time at university will be a full storyline in Part 2 and you'll face a lot of new choices, with some new Love Interests, some dangers and threats, and even a returning Love Interest in the form of Jane. Despite leaving to get away from Dover City and raise her (and your) child in peace, it seems like she couldn't fully escape the mafia life and those involved in it completely. Jane's storyline in Part 2 will give you a chance to be there for her and the baby as you struggle with trying to have everything you want while leading two very different and distinct lives. Will you distance yourself from her in order to protect her, or try to reconcile for your mistakes in leaving her and the baby and try to have a second chance to make things right? You decide... I've finally managed to convert all the characters from Genesis 3 to Genesis 8.1 so now clothes and everything are fitting a lot better (thank god!) and my progress with rendering should now speed up a bit. I still have more learning to do in order for the renders to speed up even more, but I'm happy with the progress and what I've learnt so far. The script is also coming along nicely and I've written quite a bit of Chapter 11 so far. There's still more to write and I want it to be around an hour in length so I'll see how much I need to add in order to achieve that and I might have to adjust accordingly if the update is taking too long to make, because I don't want everyone to have to wait forever. As long as it's over 30 minutes, but preferably around 45 mins - 1 hour, I think that'll be a solid update size and should give enough content.

 

[JakeDunn1984]

Incest patch v10
I'm just edit it a bit.

How do I use this patch, where do I place it?

 

[AngelsAfterDark]

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Hey everyone! You've asked and asked, and it was only right I listened! Due to an insane amount of demand, everyone's favourite coffee girl is making a return! It's taken a bit of planning and discussing in order to incorporate her properly, and the best idea that I came up with was to incorporate her into an already existing story line which could work with her character. In Part 1, MC was attending University and it was said he was close to finishing, however, nothing more was said and that storyline just disappeared. I'm bringing that storyline back to have MC finish his degree and expose him to the world of university again, but this time, with you, the player, tagging along for the ride. MC's time at university will be a full storyline in Part 2 and you'll face a lot of new choices, with some new Love Interests, some dangers and threats, and even a returning Love Interest in the form of Jane. Despite leaving to get away from Dover City and raise her (and your) child in peace, it seems like she couldn't fully escape the mafia life and those involved in it completely. Jane's storyline in Part 2 will give you a chance to be there for her and the baby as you struggle with trying to have everything you want while leading two very different and distinct lives. Will you distance yourself from her in order to protect her, or try to reconcile for your mistakes in leaving her and the baby and try to have a second chance to make things right? You decide... I've finally managed to convert all the characters from Genesis 3 to Genesis 8.1 so now clothes and everything are fitting a lot better (thank god!) and my progress with rendering should now speed up a bit. I still have more learning to do in order for the renders to speed up even more, but I'm happy with the progress and what I've learnt so far. The script is also coming along nicely and I've written quite a bit of Chapter 11 so far. There's still more to write and I want it to be around an hour in length so I'll see how much I need to add in order to achieve that and I might have to adjust accordingly if the update is taking too long to make, because I don't want everyone to have to wait forever. As long as it's over 30 minutes, but preferably around 45 mins - 1 hour, I think that'll be a solid update size and should give enough content.

glad to hear Jane and the baby won't be dropped. Looking forward to part 2.

 

[Aristos]

Jane was by far the worst of all the female characters. Sorry that it had to end for her so... abruptly, but good riddance.

(...)

So much for that...

 

[rev_01]

So much for that...

You’re not going to be forced to be with her or interact with her. If you don’t want to see her, you can close off her route at her very first introduction in Part 2.

 

[rev_01]

How do I use this patch, where do I place it?

You don’t need a patch. Just rename their relation to you at the start of the game or at the storyboard.