VN Ren'Py Abandoned Oath of Loyalty [Ch. 10] [Silk Ari/REV]

[test7777]

kinda wished you coulda blackmailed the whore of an Aunt but oh well

That was probably the most disappointing scene in this entire game. After being able to spy on her changing earlier, I would have hoped for the option to either blackmail her or to sweettalk her into the MC taking care of her sexual desires.

 

[desmosome]

Is there no benefit to going Both at this point (In terms of scenes)?

 

[Aristos]

Is there no benefit to going Both at this point (In terms of scenes)?

So far, there's no benefit. The only racket that gives you an extra scene at this point is gambling, which is needed to have sex with Marcy. The others will probably make a difference in future updates.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

So far, there's no benefit. The only racket that gives you an extra scene at this point is gambling, which is needed to have sex with Marcy. The others will probably make a difference in future updates.

As the guy who wanted it all and was willing to look over his shoulder for the rest of the game, I was kinda bummed out about this.

 

[rev_01]

As the guy who wanted it all and was willing to look over his shoulder for the rest of the game, I was kinda bummed out about this.

It’s still early, man. The rackets haven’t even come into full effect yet so just be patient.

 

[desmosome]

what I have a problem with fundamentally is how Ruthlessness is almost always tied to negative or no point gains for the girls. As a mobster story, it makes sense. Godfather and pretty much all mafia movies have this theme. As a porn game, it's a bit disappointing if the only viable path with in tact relationships is to be the Mr. nice guy.

 

[Mmushy]

I was thinking the same.
Will being the Don or winning the girls be mutually exclusive

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

It’s still early, man. The rackets haven’t even come into full effect yet so just be patient.

I get it's still early, I am just pointing out that the "info" about the rackets is as follows;

1. Drugs smuggling and trafficking - The drug business is extremely lucrative and very dangerous. You will be hated by most of the political class.

2. Gambling and protection - Least dangerous, least profitable. But you'll have the support of the "corrupted" political class.

3. Both - If you want to be the king, go for it all. You better grow a pair of eyes behind your back though, you'll be hated by all.
(I realize I misquoted this now)

Based on that introduction how was I supposed to deduct there would be exclusive lewd content tied into any of that?

what I have a problem with fundamentally is how Ruthlessness is almost always tied to negative or no point gains for the girls. As a mobster story, it makes sense. Godfather and pretty much all mafia movies have this theme. As a porn game, it's a bit disappointing if the only viable path with in tact relationships is to be the Mr. nice guy.

I was thinking the same.
Will being the Don or winning the girls be mutually exclusive

Suppose it is the case for Marcy if you do the drug racket at this point in time (updates) anyway.

Don't get me wrong it's not a big deal and the devs can do what ever they want in my opinion, it's just that I found out about that scene by reading about it in this thread and it came as a little surprise that it would be exclusive to one racket. Since I chose "both" from the start and had fun playing it. I just had to start over to see the scene this time only doing the gambling and protection.

But considering what the game seems to be about it seemed weird to me and had me a kinda bummed out I would have to do a different racket for a scene. Especially since I interpreted "Both" as the ultimate racket/path

 

[rev_01]

what I have a problem with fundamentally is how Ruthlessness is almost always tied to negative or no point gains for the girls. As a mobster story, it makes sense. Godfather and pretty much all mafia movies have this theme. As a porn game, it's a bit disappointing if the only viable path with in tact relationships is to be the Mr. nice guy.

It depends on the girl you are trying to pursue. Some prefer ruthlessness. Others don't.

 

[desmosome]

I also agree with some other posters in the previous page about the current resolution of the Auntie plot being incredibly unsatisfying. For one thing, it's an incredibly serious deal when someone betrays the family, even if they are literally the boss's brother. It doesn't matter what justification they thought they had. Remember what happened to Fredo? His motivations were pretty much exactly the same as Paulie's.

The Auntie is even more fucked. She doesn't have blood connections that could lessen the impact, and she was the main instigator. Not to mention her cheating. This is some serious fucking business. Why would MC not tell Frank everything? And Frank's reaction to what he did learn was way too tame. This little stunt put the entire family in MAJOR danger and jeopardizes their position. It really doesn't make sense to sweep this under the rug even if we are playing a good kid MC.

We will have to see how things play out, but the Dev jumped the gun by introducing such a serious drama involving plot centric characters too early. Wacking Paulie/Barb is probably out of the question since that would lead to a whole new branch way too early in development.

 

[rev_01]

I also agree with some other posters in the previous page about the current resolution of the Auntie plot being incredibly unsatisfying. For one thing, it's an incredibly serious deal when someone betrays the family, even if they are literally the boss's brother. It doesn't matter what justification they thought they had. Remember what happened to Fredo? His motivations were pretty much exactly the same as Paulie's.

The Auntie is even more fucked. She doesn't have blood connections that could lessen the impact, and she was the main instigator. Not to mention her cheating. This is some serious fucking business. Why would MC not tell Frank everything? And Frank's reaction to what he did learn was way too tame. This little stunt put the entire family in MAJOR danger and jeopardizes their position. It really doesn't make sense to sweep this under the rug even if we are playing a good kid MC.

We will have to see how things play out, but the Dev jumped the gun by introducing such a serious drama involving plot centric characters too early. Wacking Paulie/Barb is probably out of the question since that would lead to a whole new branch way too early in development.

Well why would MC tell Frank everything? As MC said in the game, he doesn't want her to get caught. If she was caught, she'd be killed. Julia and Daniela would be without a mother, it would eventually come back to the MC causing them to hate him. This way, he's got Barbara to stop the cheating and also ensured that Barbara will no longer be involved in the family business causing trouble. Frank is also being more tame then if it was someone else, because at the end of the day, it's still Barbara, Paulie's wife. I don't imagine it would go down too well if something were to happen to he. Obviously the storyline will continue to be fleshed out, but damn. It was just the most recent update and only got a bit of screen time in the update. Don't write Ari off yet when we've only just been introduced to it. I also don't think it was too soon at all. It happened at the perfect time in the story. MC is rising into power a bit, something was stolen as a result of Paulie & Barbara, etc.

 

[desmosome]

Well why would MC tell Frank everything? As MC said in the game, he doesn't want her to get caught. If she was caught, she'd be killed. Julia and Daniela would be without a mother, it would eventually come back to the MC causing them to hate him. This way, he's got Barbara to stop the cheating and also ensured that Barbara will no longer be involved in the family business causing trouble. Frank is also being more tame then if it was someone else, because at the end of the day, it's still Barbara, Paulie's wife. I don't imagine it would go down too well if something were to happen to he. Obviously the storyline will continue to be fleshed out, but damn. It was just the most recent update and only got a bit of screen time in the update. Don't write Ari off yet when we've only just been introduced to it. I also don't think it was too soon at all. It happened at the perfect time in the story. MC is rising into power a bit, something was stolen as a result of Paulie & Barbara, etc.

Well it's called Oath of Loyalty but MC is not being very loyal. This is way above his pay grade and he should not be messing around by withholding info from Frank. The dude is a very competent Don. For all his faults dealing with the girls, he loves everyone very much, especially his son.

 

[rev_01]

Well it's called Oath of Loyalty but MC is not being very loyal. This is way above his pay grade and he should not be messing around by withholding info from Frank. The dude is a very competent Don. For all his faults dealing with the girls, he loves everyone very much, especially his son.

He's often very rash and although he makes competent decisions, he also makes plenty of ridiculous ones and holds outdated views which could put people at risk. I don't think telling Frank who will undoubtedly kill Barbara is a very smart idea at all. He's definitely being loyal by ensuring the protection of his family, regardless of what they have done.

 

[wittnotyoyo]

He's often very rash and although he makes competent decisions, he also makes plenty of ridiculous ones and holds outdated views which could put people at risk. I don't think telling Frank who will undoubtedly kill Barbara is a very smart idea at all. He's definitely being loyal by ensuring the protection of his family, regardless of what they have done.

She betrayed and put the MC's family in jeopardy with wildly reckless behavior. In my mind that is betraying his immediate family to protect an aunt who made catastrophically bad decisions that she knew the risk of. That is definitely not loyal or protecting of the family members who deserve protecting.

The MC covering for her makes him responsible if she pulls anything similar in the future.

 

[rev_01]

She betrayed and put the MC's family in jeopardy with wildly reckless behavior. In my mind that is betraying his immediate family to protect an aunt who made catastrophically bad decisions that she knew the risk of. That is definitely not loyal or protecting of the family members who deserve protecting.

The MC covering for her makes him responsible if she pulls anything similar in the future.

She won't pull anything like that in the future. It will be part of her arc. How would you feel if your best friend (let alone family) got your mother killed? I don't imagine it would go down to well so of course he's not going to reveal it. It would shatter Daniela and Julia and could even result in Sophia and Mary being pissed off at the MC.

 

[desmosome]

She won't pull anything like that in the future. It will be part of her arc. How would you feel if your best friend (let alone family) got your mother killed? I don't imagine it would go down to well so of course he's not going to reveal it. It would shatter Daniela and Julia and could even result in Sophia and Mary being pissed off at the MC.

It's the Mafia. You betray the family, you get the Kiss of Death.

 

[rev_01]

It's the Mafia. You betray the family, you get the Kiss of Death.

Doesn't change the fact it won't go down well. Could you imagine Paulie raising kids by himself? It would literally only bring problems.

 

[desmosome]

Yea cus Barb is such a great mother and all. Paulie needs to be wacked too for what he pulled if we're being serious. The kids are all grown already. They will be taken care of by the family. It sucks, but that's how it is. This is why I said the dev jumped the gun with this arc. Paulie did something unforgivable in the Mafia world. If he just made a mistake or something, they can let it pass, but active betrayal... nah.

 

[wittnotyoyo]

She won't pull anything like that in the future. It will be part of her arc. How would you feel if your best friend (let alone family) got your mother killed? I don't imagine it would go down to well so of course he's not going to reveal it. It would shatter Daniela and Julia and could even result in Sophia and Mary being pissed off at the MC.

How do you know she won't pull anything like that in the future? Everyone in the family assumed she would never pull a stunt like that until she did.

I wouldn't be happy but I would also be extremely pissed at how my mom betrayed the family knowing that she married into the mob. I would like to think that I would also understand that my cousin didn't cause my mom's death, her actions did.

Doesn't change the fact it won't go down well. Could you imagine Paulie raising kids by himself? It would literally only bring problems.

Daniela and Julia are both over 18, they have already been raised. They may be pissed and blaming the MC or Frank may be easy but it's not like the MC woke up one day, thought "man, I hate my aunt" and got her killed with no justification. He stumbled upon a major betrayal to his family that risks his dad's position and power. That betrayal put Sophia and Mary at risk through no action of their own, all to feed auntie's greed.

 

[rev_01]

Yea cus Barb is such a great mother and all. Paulie needs to be wacked too for what he pulled if we're being serious. The kids are all grown already. They will be taken care of by the family. It sucks, but that's how it is. This is why I said the dev jumped the gun with this arc. Paulie did something unforgivable in the Mafia world. If he just made a mistake or something, they can let it pass, but active betrayal... nah.

I wouldn't really call it betrayal. He wanted more of an active role in the family and in order to prove himself to Frank took a risk which didn't pay off.