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Yeah that isn't doing well milos, that is doing extremely poorly compared to low effort vanilla games which make on average way more money in a shorter time frame. The only games with ntr that have done sort of okay, have it as optional and have it as the minority of the content in the game. Which is because unsurprisingly the vast majority of people don't like it. As long as it's optional and no the majority of the content in the game, people can tolerate it.
Of course, i agree with that it shouldn't be majority of the content in the game like for example in game "Tyrant", but every game must include many genres (tags) and not only most popular (like incest etc) so then everyone will be satisfied. If this dev (catkaproon) will need to change complete original story just because some people don't like a couple of NTR scenes i am pretty sure that it will "kill" their creativity and that won't be good.
 

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Of course, i agree with that it shouldn't be majority of the content in the game like for example in game "Tyrant", but every game must include many genres (tags) and not only most popular (like incest etc) so then everyone will be satisfied. If this dev (catkaproon) will need to change complete original story just because some people don't like a couple of NTR scenes i am pretty sure that it will "kill" their creativity and that won't be good.
It won't be good if it kills interest in the game because people are mad that you're forced to let the girl you're going after to suck some guys dick and can't stop it from happening either. Which is what would happen, as long as you can stop the guys from getting any action with the girls and then get revenge on them for even trying in the escape pathes thats fine, people probably wouldn't be that bothered. But if you can't avoid sexual content where the guys rape the girls or force them to give them handjob, then thats a problem. The scenes being optional doesn't really have to effect the story that much if it's done correctly, the main character fighting back and doing something about these people would lead to more actual story content. Honestly I'm worried that the devs are going to force us to tolerate and not allow us to get revenge on these people, based on the fact they're called escape pathes. Which is ridiculous since someone trying to cuck you isn't something anyone would tolerate.
 
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It won't be good if it kills interest in the game because people are mad that you're forced to let the girl you're going after to suck some guys dick and can't stop it from happening either. Which is what would happen, as long as you can stop the guys from getting any action with the girls and then get revenge on them for even trying in the escape pathes thats fine, people probably wouldn't be that bothered. But if you can't avoid sexual content where the guys rape the girls or force them to give them handjob, then thats a problem. The scenes being optional doesn't really have to effect the story that much if it's done correctly, the main character fighting back and doing something about these people would lead to more actual story content. Honestly I'm worried that the devs are going to force us to tolerate and not allow us to get revenge on these people, based on the fact they're called escape pathes. Which is ridiculous since someone trying to cuck you isn't something anyone would tolerate.
No problem mate, i understand you completely but let's wait for next updates, maybe it won't be in a way you think and i am sure that devs will find a way to make everyone happy (Both NTR and Non NTR Fans). :)
 
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Yeah that isn't doing well milos, that is doing extremely poorly compared to low effort vanilla games which make on average way more money in a shorter time frame. The only games with ntr that have done sort of okay, have it as optional and have it as the minority of the content in the game. Which is because unsurprisingly the vast majority of people don't like it. As long as it's optional and no the majority of the content in the game, people can tolerate it.
You definition of doing "extremely poorly" is quite off to the majority of people. Please give me an example of low effort vanilla games that do better than Tyrant. But I don't think you can do it though because what you can find that do well or better are actually not low effort vanilla games. It's a simple 101 business practice. They put it in because there is demand and many time the additional of NTR content was voted by patreons themselves. I don't disagree with pretty much everything you said as I'd love to be able to boot those NTR villians face and teach a lesson or two on the dumb heroines too except the exaggeration you underplay on niche genres. Have you ever heard of Thug Hero Party? That's one NTR game and not with a bs writing. It's agony inducing, heart wrenching as it's supposed to be and with a very good reason behind it as opposed to what you says can only exist through bad writing. The game also gives you a route to pay back after the pain you've been through, and still managed to make you feel empty. And then a "good" ending. It's a game that still doesn't make you hate the genre any less but can't deny that it has a good story.
 

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You definition of doing "extremely poorly" is quite off to the majority of people. Please give me an example of low effort vanilla games that do better than Tyrant. But I don't think you can do it though because what you can find that do well or better are actually not low effort vanilla games. It's a simple 101 business practice. They put it in because there is demand and many time the additional of NTR content was voted by patreons themselves. I don't disagree with pretty much everything you said as I'd love to be able to boot those NTR villians face and teach a lesson or two on the dumb heroines too except the exaggeration you underplay on niche genres. Have you ever heard of Thug Hero Party? That's one NTR game and not with a bs writing. It's agony inducing, heart wrenching as it's supposed to be and with a very good reason behind it as opposed to what you says can only exist through bad writing. The game also gives you a route to pay back after the pain you've been through, and still managed to make you feel empty. And then a "good" ending. It's a game that still doesn't make you hate the genre any less but can't deny that it has a good story.
Well it's pretty simple, go look at how many vanilla games easily make more money than it did in a shorter time. You would have to be delusional to think the game is doing well. Also thug hero party is a god awful game with the same trash tier writing that all NTR games have where everything just ends badly because MUH DESPAIR FETISH. It's pathetic. Thug hero party could have actually done something with the revenge plot but instead it just made the main character still a loser for no reason. If you think edginess and darkness makes something well written, then I don't know what to tell you because thats all thug hero was, it had a completely nonsenical mary sue bad guy plot. So yes I can deny that it's a good story, because it's a fucking awful story that stays extremely poorly written and awful the entire time. The entire revenge story existed just to further shit on the player and people that wanted proper revenge, you get basically just more ntr porn in it, main character gets nothing effectively, one scene or something with a clone, the love interest sides with the ntr guy for reasons that are nonsensical like literally always. It had no writing that ever was coherent at all, so for you to say it had a good plot is insane really. It has the same problems as ALL ntr plots, which are things that can be fixed with use of basic common sense from any character. Regardless, that god awful excuse of a story is off topic from this thread and we shouldn't really go in-depth of it here.
 
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Hey @Catkaproon, i recently discovered your Game and I tried out the Demo immediately after seeing the Art. I mean it wasn't much to do in the Demo but it showed what you can do with your Artstyle and I really want to see this Game flourishing. Lets hope you dont fade into Patreon Nirvana with unfinished Games like 80% of the Games you can find here.
I think if you raise more awareness of your Game on different Sites and people see your Art, you will get Pledges in no Time (fingers crossed). I mean it sure is unique enough among HGames. "Sigh" speaking of Patreon..i think you need to begin refering the Sister as a StepSister for not getting a Roadblock from them. Assuming Patra is one of the Main Girls and will get some Action with the MC. People are quick here to make quick changes in the Script for the Community though to recreate the proper feeling of Incest.
I cant stress enough how much I like your Artstyle though, big kudos to your drawing Artist. Just a shame that the presumably Side Characters from your Sneek Peek are Flatchests and not fleshed out in the right places like Patra xD

Now you mentioned that this Game will have NTR elements and you can choose who to "save" and who to let "NTRed"...colour me intruiged. I rather like the Genre and I think if you do it right and give the Player, based on his choices for the Girls, 2-3 more/different CGs it will raise the replayability of the Game.

I mean after reading blocks of Text about Pro and Cons about NTR lets just say to each its own. With thicc Girls, NTR Elements while giving me a Choice to "save" my chosen Girl you hit all the right Buttons for me. Now if you were saying I can except some Preggo Endings as well I will consider to pledge a little more ,)
Just follow your general Idea on how to proceed with the Game. You cant please everyone you know.
Cheers.

@Raginrager, Thug Hero Party was a great Game alone for the CGs but maybe...just maybe the lack of basic common Sense from the Chars in NTR Games is what is the most appealing for a Person who want to play such Games. I dont need deep fleshed out Storylines or Character Motivations. I start a NTR Game > see the desired Gal which gets stolen fall into Corruption Oblivion > MC can do something about it or not > get my CGs out of it and had a good Fap. End of Story ,)
 

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Hello Everyone, At first, we already read all the messages you gave to us. We really thankful for every comments and suggestions you gave us all the time. we glad that you interest in our little project and we understand that we couldn't make everyone happy but we still wish to do the best to make most people can happy with our game.

Your sincerely,Cat Kaproon Team.
 

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Hello Everyone, At first, we already read all the messages you gave to us. We really thankful for every comments and suggestions you gave us all the time. we glad that you interest in our little project and we understand that we couldn't make everyone happy but we still wish to do the best to make most people can happy with our game.

Your sincerely,Cat Kaproon Team.
What are the percentages of content between the pathes a player character can take? Is there going to be more content that is vanilla and not NTR than NTR, or is it going to balanced completely even or what?
 
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First demo and some people already bitching about the ntr. There are games with ntr that make money like Seed of Chaos as there are games without it making money too.
Catkaproon don't change your plans because you won't be able to please everyone, make the game you wanted to do in the first place, update regularly and you will have patrons.
 

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We can't tell about that yet.But now we aim for balanced it.Anyway the story now still in process.
You only have 17 Patreons you have no obligations and you are betraying no one so why would you try to balance that content? All its going to do is hurt you in the long run no one that not into that content is going to play the game if you balance it especially if its not ALL avoidable. You should make the nonvanilla stuff the main path and everything else thats not gonna turn most people away a alternate path. Otherwise you're only harming yourself by cutting off most of the population.
 

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You only have 17 Patreons you have no obligations and you are betraying no one so why would you try to balance that content? All its going to do is hurt you in the long run no one that not into that content is going to play the game if you balance it especially if its not ALL avoidable. You should make the nonvanilla stuff the main path and everything else thats not gonna turn most people away a alternate path. Otherwise you're only harming yourself by cutting off most of the population.
Your post makes no logical sense, if anything the ntr stuff should be the alt path and the vanilla stuff should be the man path because that makes the most money.
 
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Vanilla stuff is boring and if you don't like this kind of games just play other 1000+ same games with same story and same fetishes. I really don't want to play another boring incest game so there must be "different games" for use who like different games and fetishes. And about support there will always be people who like for example NTR and those kind of games won't be abandoned.
 

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Beautiful art, but that's it. This demo is super disappointing for the lack of content. Hope they can get something more substantial in the future.
 

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Vanilla stuff is boring and if you don't like this kind of games just play other 1000+ same games with same story and same fetishes. I really don't want to play another boring incest game so there must be "different games" for use who like different games and fetishes. And about support there will always be people who like for example NTR and those kind of games won't be abandoned.
And I don't want to play another game with a poorly written ntr path running by terrible logic just to insert your fetish. But looks he's inserting a path for both kinds of people so we both will just have to deal with it. Also NTR games are all the same so you complaining about sameness is the pot calling the kettle black.
 
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Dear our Game supporters and followers,

First, we wish to thank you for every words of encouraging and suggestion also, we thank you for your interesting in our game.

However, due to our inexperienced about this industry and problems with time managing with our full time work, we apologize that we couldn't finish this patch on our plan due to the game bug issue. We decided to postpone the date release to the end of this month in order to make it as much quality as we could do.

- The patch 0.12 will be released in the end of June. We apologize for keep you waiting. We will do our best to fix things and make the game the most quality we could.

Sincerely apologize,
Cat Kaproon Team.
 
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