- Oct 14, 2018
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I had the same problem, i found a weird fix for the bug you have to go to the slums pub and help that girl on the right of the pub but lose, that fixed it for me. hope this helps.
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Its very strange to see a lot of long posts about translations and liberties in this thread. Its not the game that suppose to spark that sort of argument. Its just porn game without much of a thought and concept behind it.
P.S. The translation are good and the game short and fun, don’t get me wrong, its just not worth it.
P.S. The translation are good and the game short and fun, don’t get me wrong, its just not worth it.
Hello! The Link to DLsite store in main page is for another product of this developer by the way. Not correct I think
- Sep 30, 2017
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Yeah, I fixed this bug a few posts above yours, so feel free to grab the patch on ULMF if you don't want to fix it with an alternative solution.
Eh, it's totally your opinion, I guess. However, the translation/localization discussion regarding creative license, permissions, etc is an incredibly hot topic. Lots of folks have their perspectives on this and it's a very complex and often divisive issue. I mean, sure for many consumers, they don't care as long as they can read the text (and it's acceptable fap material). But for others, as well as for devs, publishers, and translators (and anyone involved in the process of writing/text of a game), it's much more important.
Sure? Not exactly sure if it's "corruption", but the MC can get more and more lewd and find herself more willing to have sex in certain situations as she increases her Lust (which also unlocks scenes).
This game isn't perfect, and yeah I can understand why certain parts of the game aren't translated. Doesn't seem to be using something native or easy to adjust.
But I'm enjoying it well enough. It's sorta the format that I look for that seems to get sorta middling scores on this forum. I guess the all-encompassing category is corruption. There are legendary ones like any games from the group shimobashira koubou like the recent Ambrosia or specific works by Clymenia, whose peak was either Liz or Salvation, but I have a bias for Salvation, or the Sonia and the Hypnotic City. All of these works have a convincing narrative where the girl is chipped away little by little til the floodgate moment where it's essentially endless sex. It's a lot of effort to play through, but the entire experience is like no other. Literally some of the best faps I've had, and that's a phrase I never thought I'd type.
This game though is nowhere near that level. It has great UI, great production value, and very nice art. But there's very little narrative for the corruption aspect, but it does exist. Most games just kinda rely on having 4 event spots or so that you repeat a few times to raise lust or whatever, and there are 3 tiers or something like that. But the great games like I listed above has a ton of mini-event or slight harassments in various locations that build up the lust convincingly. Extra points if the girl is really likeable or earnest to create the gap of what she will become. This game really lacks those, just has a few perverts who will grope her and not much else.
I think 3 stars is fair, but personally I find most mediocre corruption to be much more stimulating than a well produced VN eroge or something that I wouldn't hesitate to give 5 stars. So if you're going for fap, this is worth it.
But I'm enjoying it well enough. It's sorta the format that I look for that seems to get sorta middling scores on this forum. I guess the all-encompassing category is corruption. There are legendary ones like any games from the group shimobashira koubou like the recent Ambrosia or specific works by Clymenia, whose peak was either Liz or Salvation, but I have a bias for Salvation, or the Sonia and the Hypnotic City. All of these works have a convincing narrative where the girl is chipped away little by little til the floodgate moment where it's essentially endless sex. It's a lot of effort to play through, but the entire experience is like no other. Literally some of the best faps I've had, and that's a phrase I never thought I'd type.
This game though is nowhere near that level. It has great UI, great production value, and very nice art. But there's very little narrative for the corruption aspect, but it does exist. Most games just kinda rely on having 4 event spots or so that you repeat a few times to raise lust or whatever, and there are 3 tiers or something like that. But the great games like I listed above has a ton of mini-event or slight harassments in various locations that build up the lust convincingly. Extra points if the girl is really likeable or earnest to create the gap of what she will become. This game really lacks those, just has a few perverts who will grope her and not much else.
I think 3 stars is fair, but personally I find most mediocre corruption to be much more stimulating than a well produced VN eroge or something that I wouldn't hesitate to give 5 stars. So if you're going for fap, this is worth it.
- Jan 4, 2017
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Didn't mind the untranslated bits, for an easy walkthrough Casual was good and I was still able to play without the grind and get the scenes I wanted to look for. Thanks for the translation!
Sure. Y'all keep mentioning some parts of the game that aren't translated. Is it just the controls and lust meter screen, or did I miss even more things than that?
Also, if anyone has any questions or problems, tag or PM me, otherwise I'm gonna be moving on to another translation project and not checking this thread.
Also, if anyone has any questions or problems, tag or PM me, otherwise I'm gonna be moving on to another translation project and not checking this thread.
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Before I start, let me just say that I don't hate Kagura games at all. If anything, they are a really great group of translators and I do have some of their TL games.
However, I honestly prefer fan translations over ones made by Kagura Games. That does not include MTL games. That kind of translating shouldn't exist.. But fan translations feel more organic and fun like they should be. Also there won't be a chance of missing, added or changed content from the Japanese version.
(Personal Opinion Alert) But I just feel like some of their games are watered down versions of what they originally were. Like changing the title names and meeting with Steam requirements & such. Also, yes, I know that YouTube helps with sales & stuff but, promoting H games through there (In my opinion...) makes them feel weak and not as hard core. I'm not saying that some aren't, it just feels that way.
Also, if you play SOME of their games (Not all).. you can tell that there are small little details missing when you play them side by side with the Japanese versions.
And finally, I would like to get into translating one day, but what would be the point if Kagura Games translate the same game I did and everyone drops mines for theirs? Just like some artists draw pictures for free and just for fun, I would like to do some TL for free and just for fun.
And just so I don't get attacked by a Kagura fan boy (Or Girl...) Let me respond to myself with the obvious:
1. "Well why don't you just learn to read Japanese then noob"
My reply: Yeah, tell that to everyone else here translating things and not liking MTL..
2. "Translate your own games then"
My Reply: But then I personally wouldn't get any enjoyment out of it when I play it because I already everything about it..
3. ".....Reserved for an unavoidable responder....."
And as a reminder for those with short memories, no.. I do not hate Kagura Games...Read the top of my rant again...
However, I honestly prefer fan translations over ones made by Kagura Games. That does not include MTL games. That kind of translating shouldn't exist.. But fan translations feel more organic and fun like they should be. Also there won't be a chance of missing, added or changed content from the Japanese version.
(Personal Opinion Alert) But I just feel like some of their games are watered down versions of what they originally were. Like changing the title names and meeting with Steam requirements & such. Also, yes, I know that YouTube helps with sales & stuff but, promoting H games through there (In my opinion...) makes them feel weak and not as hard core. I'm not saying that some aren't, it just feels that way.
Also, if you play SOME of their games (Not all).. you can tell that there are small little details missing when you play them side by side with the Japanese versions.
And finally, I would like to get into translating one day, but what would be the point if Kagura Games translate the same game I did and everyone drops mines for theirs? Just like some artists draw pictures for free and just for fun, I would like to do some TL for free and just for fun.
And just so I don't get attacked by a Kagura fan boy (Or Girl...) Let me respond to myself with the obvious:
1. "Well why don't you just learn to read Japanese then noob"
My reply: Yeah, tell that to everyone else here translating things and not liking MTL..
2. "Translate your own games then"
My Reply: But then I personally wouldn't get any enjoyment out of it when I play it because I already everything about it..
3. ".....Reserved for an unavoidable responder....."
And as a reminder for those with short memories, no.. I do not hate Kagura Games...Read the top of my rant again...
Some errors in the third jellyfish scene:
Beyond that, there are two CGs that don't seem to be used in any scenes in the gallery. Does the game ever call them?
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Beyond that, there are two CGs that don't seem to be used in any scenes in the gallery. Does the game ever call them?
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There is truth to this. However, you'd be bringing joy to the masses and can even make $ IF you can avoid copyright
You could translate games the Kagura won't do. Kagura typically goes after games with popularity or games that are made by people who have established themselves in the industry. You could always start with games that come from people that aren't well known; no risk of Kagura (or anyone else) stealing your thunder if the game comes from a publisher no one has heard of. There are PLENTY of titles that have gone untranslated for 5+ years that people would praise you for translating
I mean, even if someone could, I doubt that anyone would prefer reading in a language that isn't their native tongue even if they know other languages
It doesn't just help them with sales. Sometimes, changing the name and other small details is the ONLY way that certain gams can be sold on platforms like steam. Also, H games aren't the only genre of games affected by this. A puzzle game named "Stealth Bastard" had to have it's name changed to "Stealth Inc." for it to be sold on PSN. It may seem unnecessary, but that's what it took for the game to be allowed to be sold on that platform. If that edit weren't in place, PSN would've rejected it and a lot of people would've never got to experience that masterpiece of a puzzle game. That same logic applies to companies like Kagura when they try to sell on platforms that raise their eyebrows at this type of content. I don't view those edits as handicapping the game, they're more like small tweaks that had to be done for the game to be released to a person's favorite - perhaps only - method of gaming.
However, not everyone sells the "edited" version. If you buy H from a place that specializes in H you'll get the uncut version
Haha, yeah the first one is just me trying to make the dialogue interesting, sorry. And I'll probably get a ton of flak from the purists or those who don't like me embellishing/putting text that doesn't reflect the what's actually happening, which is fine (I usually just try to listen to that nerdy whine of those I imagine complaining and it makes me laugh enough so that I don't feel bothered, lol). However, I'd probably defend myself in that I've played enough translated games where there's a ton of things happening in the text that aren't happening in the scenes and vice versa.
The second is my bad. I'm missing a '/' there, thanks. Probably won't update the patch just for that, but I'll do a global check for errors like that.
Hmmmm, looking into that scene, it looks like that's the scene you get for the thug beating you the second time (the first time is my own customized scene, which isn't in the gallery intentionally). I think that might be a bug present in the original game, but I'll add that in, and perhaps create an actual common event for the first thug defeat to couple the two events together in the gallery. I'll try doing that now and create another patch if it works.
BattleSpace : I'd encourage you to try translating the games you like even if bigger and professional established translators like Kagura intimidate you. There's space and purpose for fan-translations to spout up, and while there's always the concern of litigation, or wasted effort, or naysayers, I think folks shouldn't give up on an endeavor before they even start.
Responding to your 2nd point:
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I don't really understand your 1st point. I have some slight education and experience in the Japanese language and culture, but I'll admit I know extremely little in terms of translating; if I were to go into an interview at Kagura, I'd get fired on the spot. I'm just a guy who got tired of seeing the lazy masses post "+1" on the Translation Request forums and decided to be the change. If that's wrong ... well, at least I tried.
And with that, I think that's enough to derail this thread. I'm gonna go back to seeing if I can properly add those scenes into the gallery now.
Okay, added more (missing) scenes to the gallery and fixed some typos.
Note that I used the same switch for the 2nd Thug loss scene for the others, mostly because I was too lazy to code it in RPGMaker properly, so you'll unlock all the scenes I've added to the gallery (1st/2nd thug loss scenes and warden scene) if you unlock that scene mentioned above.
The patch is on my ULMF link (see OP) or the link in my sig.
Note that I used the same switch for the 2nd Thug loss scene for the others, mostly because I was too lazy to code it in RPGMaker properly, so you'll unlock all the scenes I've added to the gallery (1st/2nd thug loss scenes and warden scene) if you unlock that scene mentioned above.
The patch is on my ULMF link (see OP) or the link in my sig.