Varador

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Someone else mentioned it previously but got no answer (as far as I can see) so here goes. I also got an error while talking to Sarah (building owner?):

File "game/events2.rpy", line 2897, in <module>
NameError: name 'd19_renee' is not defined

I have a wild guess and think the problem happens because I was not able to talk to her daughter at the pool (Renee) - because of the error name. Previously at the pool, there was a "choice" screen with only one choice in which the mc decides to leave her alone and come back later. Was there suppose to be multiple choices there and if so can someone guess what I did wrong previously?
 

-CookieMonster666-

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Someone else mentioned it previously but got no answer (as far as I can see) so here goes. I also got an error while talking to Sarah (building owner?):

File "game/events2.rpy", line 2897, in <module>
NameError: name 'd19_renee' is not defined

I have a wild guess and think the problem happens because I was not able to talk to her daughter at the pool (Renee) - because of the error name. Previously at the pool, there was a "choice" screen with only one choice in which the mc decides to leave her alone and come back later. Was there suppose to be multiple choices there and if so can someone guess what I did wrong previously?
Hrmm... I also had an error in the events2.rpy file, but mine was different. In case you aren't aware, you can work around the error by doing this:
  1. Save a couple of frames before you get the error.
  2. Enter the developer console. If you don't know how yet, you can download Unren (for the PC or the Mac and Linux). Put it in the main /game folder where you have On Distant Shores saved. Make sure you've closed the game. Run UnRen and choose the option to enable the developer console. Then, close Unren, open the game again, and load the save.
  3. In the console, type d19_renee = 0 and hit Enter/Return on your keyboard.
The game looks for d19_renee being equal to 1, so if it's another value (probably 0 is better than other values, just in case) the game will see it and no longer state that it's "not defined".
 

Varador

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Hrmm... I also had an error in the events2.rpy file, but mine was different. In case you aren't aware, you can work around the error by doing this:
  1. Save a couple of frames before you get the error.
  2. Enter the developer console. If you don't know how yet, you can download Unren (for the PC or the Mac and Linux). Put it in the main /game folder where you have On Distant Shores saved. Make sure you've closed the game. Run UnRen and choose the option to enable the developer console. Then, close Unren, open the game again, and load the save.
  3. In the console, type d19_renee = 0 and hit Enter/Return on your keyboard.
The game looks for d19_renee being equal to 1, so if it's another value (probably 0 is better than other values, just in case) the game will see it and no longer state that it's "not defined".
Ah, I didnt think about that, I know about Unren. Thanks for the suggestion. I "ignored" the problem twice and it kept going and I was able to reacj the "end" but I felt I missed some story elements there. Later on her daughter came and talked about stuff we didnt really talk about... Oh well. =) Thanks again.
 
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Not sure if this has been answered, I didn't see it yet.
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I think the spitroasting is unavoidable if you want to be with Piggy, aren't you in love with her after she shows her love in full force to you by being fucked by another dude? Jokes aside, it's wasted content if you ask me based on the profile of people that play this game.
 

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I think the spitroasting is unavoidable if you want to be with Piggy, aren't you in love with her after she shows her love in full force to you by being fucked by another dude? Jokes aside, it's wasted content if you ask me based on the profile of people that play this game.
Oh, I didn't do that scene. Just wanted to know if maybe there is a way to still have a relationship with her without that.
 

Scarecrow13

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I just wonder how many people actually read the story? There are SO many misapprehensions (or misrepresentations) out there that it's hard to imagine most do. There may be some spoilers below, but frankly, if it's news, it's because one didn't bother to read, and if it's not, then it's not a spoiler.

1. The backdrop of the entire story is a struggle between Order ('Good'), Chaos ('Evil') and...Harmony (?). But of course Order and Chaos aren't nearly so simplistic as Good/Evil. But they ARE hard to comprehend for humans. Harmony seems very humanocentric.

2. The MC is picked because....we have no idea. Probably there IS no idea. Maybe he's a man of morals but who is so damaged that both sides agree he has the capacity to serve their interests. Like...the prosecution and defense selecting a jury in a trial. He's left to confront that his role in this is possibly utterly arbitrary, which probably is a helluva kick in the pride.

3. His damage is represented not only in debilitating loneliness, but also crippling self-esteem issues and deep personal tragedy. And - this is important - both Order and Chaos are trying to influence his ultimate decision. Chaos, by exposing him to carnal pleasures, and Order by arranging the lifepaths of those who might provide him comfort and solace (which yes, means sexual release, too) to encounter him. Both have allowed for this glamor, so that those people will be receptive to him.

4. The third path - Harmony, let's call it - seems to be playing on the aspect that even though all these people are positioned to do things for the MC, he, actually, is in position to do things for them. In other words, he is far more than just the happy accidental recipient of the attention of "a bunch of sluts". Most of the people he encounters are pretty damaged themselves. And he - being a man of moral capacity - is in a position to help them...or hurt them even more. And what he chooses will probably reflect on him, and his health or debility.

5. The MC - being a man of moral capacity - is quite troubled by this. I remember an old "Twilight Zone" episode where a low-time crook/gambler died and was sent to a place that looked like a ritzy hotel. All the women fawned on him, he never lost a game, he did nothing but win. And at the end, he realized it wasn't Heaven - it was actually Hell. What's the worth of winning if nothing you do is actually responsible for it? If there's no way to ever lose? All it does is highlight how utterly impotent and meaningless you are....which is a theme often reflected in this game/story.

6. We don't know the consequences of these decisions, for the most part. It was pointed out to him (and us) that if, and how, he engages with these people will ultimately impact him and the crucial decision he has to make. This is not at all a "Stimulus-Response" game. These are cumulative effects.

7. Woven all throughout this is the idea of self-determination. As mentioned "Order paved the way" for some folks, the glamor definitely impacts them - do these women have a choice? Also...does the MC have a choice? Is it rape? Is it slavery? The idea of personal agency - or the lack thereof - is central to the entire project.

8. Jenner is awesome. A 'lovable idiot', as I believe he's referenced at one point. That is all.

That's the 'game'. That's the story. There are a lot of really hot models to enjoy with whom he'll likely be intimate with most of them. You can play as a person trying to salvage some sense of worth and meaning and regain being a loved and loving man, or you can (probably) play a complete narcissistic self-indulgent user of people (I say 'probably' because I've not tried that path, but it appears to be there).

If none of that interests you, then I highly recommend you try another game, or hold down 'Ctrl' to fast-forward to the fapping. But what I actually recommend most is trying it. Because it's a helluva story.

Maybe it'll help to consider that the tags reflect what may, or does, happen in the game - but the game isn't meant to conform to the limitations of the tags. It's a chicken-and-the-egg thing - very much the story drives the tags. It's not meant to be limited by them.

But really - if you're not going to engage with the story, why are you here in the first place? Why complain about something that is in no way compulsory and is completely your choice? If you tried it and don't like, fine - give a tip o' the hat and move along. Bravo for trying it! But if you're not going to bother to engage, and just moan on about how someone didn't make something that YOU wanted, well...I just don't understand that.
 

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5. The MC - being a man of moral capacity - is quite troubled by this. I remember an old "Twilight Zone" episode where a low-time crook/gambler died and was sent to a place that looked like a ritzy hotel. All the women fawned on him, he never lost a game, he did nothing but win. And at the end, he realized it wasn't Heaven - it was actually Hell. What's the worth of winning if nothing you do is actually responsible for it? If there's no way to ever lose? All it does is highlight how utterly impotent and meaningless you are....which is a theme often reflected in this game/story.
"...this IS the other place!"

8. Jenner is awesome. A 'lovable idiot', as I believe he's referenced at one point. That is all.
Yes. Always right there when MC needs him too.
 

Hildegardt

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I just wonder how many people actually read the story? There are SO many misapprehensions (or misrepresentations) out there that it's hard to imagine most do. There may be some spoilers below, but frankly, if it's news, it's because one didn't bother to read, and if it's not, then it's not a spoiler.

[...]

But really - if you're not going to engage with the story, why are you here in the first place? Why complain about something that is in no way compulsory and is completely your choice? If you tried it and don't like, fine - give a tip o' the hat and move along. Bravo for trying it! But if you're not going to bother to engage, and just moan on about how someone didn't make something that YOU wanted, well...I just don't understand that.
I think it's less that people didn't read and more that you're very generous in your description of the plot. The story isn't difficult to grasp, but that doesn't help, when it's the execution that's the problem. This game just fails miserably in the "show, don't tell" department, most egregiously in the MC's characterisation.

Remember how, at the start of the game, the gameplay consisted of trying to get out of bed? This was well done and a lot of the comments in this thread agreed that this was an immersive way to show off the MC's depression.
This feature is still in the game. You can decide at the start of each day to go out or stay hurdled up in the MC's flat. But it's an empty choice now, because the MC's depression is all but forgotten. We only know that the MC is supposed to be struggling, because sometimes he takes the role of the narrator and just outright tells us how it was supposed to go. But he never actually struggles.
That's not even because of the glamour. He tells us afterwards how sad he is that the women are forced to like him and how hard it is to control his urges, but, every time the game could show us that this is indeed the case, the MC turns into a confident dom, who has no qualms about blurting out kinky demands.
The game tells us that he's supposed to be a depressed introvert, but it shows him as the reason his company takes off because of his genius speech. It shows him as successful, rich and generous and as an experienced sexual deviant, who's done it all and who just knows what women want and has the skills to stretch loli buttholes, dominate his slaves and exploit daddy issues.

I guess there are some people in this thread, who're just whining because they're triggered by promiscuous women, but do you really think everybody who criticizes this game didn't engage with the story? I never expect porn games to have perfect writing, so part of engaging with them is recognizing, where the failings lie.
 
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sdna1

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so get i this right?

optional sharing is that your LI is inviting u to threesome and u can join or refuse to join them?

(still they will fuck???)
 

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so it will not hapend, than?
You can not stop Sarah from having sex with her boyfriend the only choice you are given is to go around the corner and join them or not to join them either way she has sex with the other guy and you cant stop it. This game started out good but just in the last scene alone it went to trash. considering this was supposed to be a harem game.
 

sdna1

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You can not stop Sarah from having sex with her boyfriend the only choice you are given is to go around the corner and join them or not to join them either way she has sex with the other guy and you cant stop it. This game started out good but just in the last scene alone it went to trash. considering this was supposed to be a harem game.
wanted try it but i will pass....thx
 
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SeveredRealms

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There's like 10 options. I remember there being 1 specific one to pick to get the best outcome but I don't remember who.
if you meant the final choice a.k.a who to sacrifice then you have to trust the butterfly and pick Elizabeth. Other than that, just choose the option meant to open up and don't fight your inner monster..
Wasn't hard to find the answer if you really wanted it. But I try not to be a ass and did the simple search for you.
 

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You can not stop Sarah from having sex with her boyfriend the only choice you are given is to go around the corner and join them or not to join them either way she has sex with the other guy and you cant stop it. This game started out good but just in the last scene alone it went to trash. considering this was supposed to be a harem game.

Why do you think this game "went to trash" because someone elses LI invited you to spit-roast her with her boyfriend in a completely optional scene? Sarah is dating someone else. She really can't be considered an LI (she is a side-fling/secondary at best).
Considering there are currently 11ish (we're not sure what is going to happen with the daughter yet) LI's, what makes you say/think/imply that this is not a harem game?


I am genuinely curious how you came to these conclusions.
 
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