Ren'Py On Distant Shores [v0.17] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Hildegardt]

Letters? Are you in 1900? There are sites for reviewing stuff nowadays on something called the internet.

And yes, people write reviews about movies...

Telling everybody, who didn't ask, that you get triggered, whenever there's more than one penis in a porn game, isn't really a review.

 

[linkinn]

Telling everybody, who didn't ask, that you get triggered, whenever there's more than one penis in a porn game, isn't really a review.

As i said to you before, this is a forum, if you don't like reading opinions that aren't the same as your just press the X on the top right corner or press the ignore button.


Edit: I should be in your ignore list by now, just do it and you won't have to read things you didn't ask for, stop torturing yourself by going out of your safe space.

 

[SeveredRealms]

It's one scene that you were given the option not to participate in, not a complete narrative change in the game. It so far hasn't changed anything at all in the game other than if you pursue that specific character or not. Saying that a game is completely ruined (in a pretty aggressive post towards the dev) because of one scene, that you can walk away from and avoid being involved with that character in the future if that isn't your thing doesn't really seem like a reasonable response.

Ever heard of the snowball effect? The fact out of nowhere he bring in sharing and a second "dick" into the game at this early stage is a warning sign to those that are playing this game for what it was supposed to be and that's a harem game. Ohhh what's the problem its "only" one character "only" one scene.... the game has only just gotten started then before the harem player noticed there is another character with another sharing scene. If this girl was not to have been a actual Li there should be no actual choices no real interaction with her other then a passing conversation for things like helping the neighbors. The fact that he started giving options to pursue her makes her a LI even if minor. Being that it is a harem game sharing is something that drives harem players away. Now this snowball is rolling where will it stop and the funny thing is snowballs are sticky and get larger. "hypothetical dev..... I made five people happy when I did a sharing scene.......... hmm why are 50 pissed off? I mean its not like its a harem game I see a tag but nah lets see who else I can add and maybe have a 4 some. . ."
In a harem game avoidable mean that doesnt happen, isnt seen, isnt heard about. If a Li is introduced to the mc and able to interact with the mc she is not shown or talked about doing anything with any other males. This may seem judgmental and to some may be seen as a personal view but it is one shared by most all harem players. This in turn ruins the game for them oh no the snowball just got bigger.
Now getting back to another part of your comment you are not given the option to avoid anything just skip it. You are literally made to get into the elevator and go to that room. now you are given the choice to not see the scene when you are right there where you can hear what's going on. now ask yourself what if that player actually liked that character and here she is fucking another guy on the other side of that wall? What if that player wanted to see more scenes with her and now is forced to cut her from their game? Now that player is thinking who is the dev going to pull this with next? Is another Li going to be ruined for me?
Well that snowball has started rolling and collected one LI in turn the players start their walk toward the door.

 

[Hildegardt]

As i said to you before

Wait, who are you? I didn't expect a spitroasting scene to be such a hotly debated issue that I was supposed to keep track of the involved parties.

 

[Chimba]

Mann what way to deliver a scene with Sarah, totally discarded as LI in my game ,I had downloaded the update days ago but just today I was able to play it and what a surprise, in a story where Glamor affects all women, Sarah shows her love towards the Mc by having sex with her "fuckbudy" and inviting the mc to show how much she love him, (imo doesn't make sense but it is what it is, at least there is an option, but certainly the option would have been better if appear in Mc's apartment and not when he is next to them .....)

I suppose some tags are missing, better leave a report so that they are added

Separate topic:

I did 2 playtrough,In the first I rejected Lily and in the other one I did not, but the story proceeded exactly the same (the only difference is the scene when you reject her) then we cannot really reject her?
and if we follow the path of Renne we won't be forced to be with Sarah right (similar to Lily/Brenna)

And how does the "fallen" works, in a conversation with the Angel or Celeste I think it was, they comment that all the LI that we leave aside become "Fallen" so if we are not interested in sharing, Sarah turn in a "fallen"? (Even if she is not a main LI, she should be affected, right?)

 

[Orichan]

I think I said it before, but I want to say it again
I like your writing ! One of the few game I enjoy reading through

 

[sdna1]

It's one scene that you were given the option not to participate in, not a complete narrative change in the game. It so far hasn't changed anything at all in the game other than if you pursue that specific character or not. Saying that a game is completely ruined (in a pretty aggressive post towards the dev) because of one scene, that you can walk away from and avoid being involved with that character in the future if that isn't your thing doesn't really seem like a reasonable response.

And yet it is exacty how resonable responce for this game looks like

 

[Saint Blackmoor]

In my opinion another very good update. I think the writing is great and thought-provoking. this game should be turned into a book.

 

[linkinn]

In my opinion another very good update. I think the writing is great and thought-provoking. this game should be turned into a book.

I'll have to agree, i can sometimes be a real piece of shit when delivering criticisms but i got to give credit when credit is due, this update was really good, the animations are very well done (the best so far), the mix between story and advancing relationships are the best i've seen this VN deliver. This is the best update since 0.1 imho.

 

[Saint Blackmoor]

I'll have to agree, I can sometimes be a real piece of shit when delivering criticisms but I got to give credit when credit is due, this update was really good, the animations are very well done (the best so far), the mix between story and advancing relationships are the best I've seen this VN deliver. This is the best update since 0.1 IMHO.

I'm very impressed with the little details also, like the good choice of music at the right time, the background sounds coming in when appropriate. something as small as the sound of traffic decreasing as the MC moves farther away from it.
I was wondering how hard it would be to write for a character with no empathy, such as Nicole? I thought of Mr. Spock from Star Trek, I guess the opposite of empathy is logical thinking.

 

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[Mommysbuttslut]

If you participated you get to decide if you want to mess around with Sarah at a later time or not, but you are never forced to.

I'm gonna break with the rest of the complainers and say this is the real problem. Should not be getting gated out of one on one scenes with Sarah just because I don't like to share. Especially since the sharing scene was just a shitty blowjob while we watch her actually fuck someone, that'd be reason enough alone to never stick it in her again tbh. It's fine to gate future MMF scenes with this choice but unless Sarah is exclusively an MMF character then it shouldn't gate us out of the rest of her content. Should've also had an avoid/sabotage option instead of just a skip, let us pull the loser's blindfold off and have our character put their foot down on that crap.

 

[baconsmoke]

I'm gonna break with the rest of the complainers and say this is the real problem. Should not be getting gated out of one on one scenes with Sarah just because I don't like to share. Especially since the sharing scene was just a shitty blowjob while we watch her actually fuck someone, that'd be reason enough alone to never stick it in her again tbh. It's fine to gate future MMF scenes with this choice but unless Sarah is exclusively an MMF character then it shouldn't gate us out of the rest of her content. Should've also had an avoid/sabotage option instead of just a skip, let us pull the loser's blindfold off and have our character put their foot down on that crap.

I'll take a second to address this to perhaps help avoid any confusion. Sarah is not a love interest in the game. She is a peripheral NPC only. She is there to be a landlord and a mom to Renée. I just added the scene with her to provide a different kind of sex experience for those who might be interested in multiple partner scenarios (MMF and in the future MMFF scenes). These will be very few and very far between. They are just for fun and exist completely outside of everything else going on in the story. So, if you have no interest in MMF and MMFF sharing then you are missing nothing by turning her down. Also, in case anyone is worried, the MMF and MMFF scenes will never include any of the main characters or love interests.

Again, I'd like to mention that I appreciate people sharing their thoughts on my game. Whether they are positive or negative. Although I don't always respond, I always read each of the posts here on F95 and take them into consideration as I work on this effort.

 

[NakkiMuki]

Negatives
- monsters and devils
- Sarah. This is not a harem game if she fucked the others too and I can't stand any scene where I should join them. I agree that it doesn’t give much choice when it’s a completely forced scene.
- Lily. wtf. Openly admits that she fuck everything that moves. She is not my women then.
- Harem game with other dicks. Not to continue.
- too much hassle with the phone. You are constantly forced to read messages or make a phone call. A better result would be f2f and more content.
- it doesn't really matter what choices you make. The only choice that matters is who dies or else you die yourself. Otherwise, everything is like moving on a train track.

I don’t want to play a Harem game with other dicks and too many things that don’t belong in that game. There are too many things mixed up here that don’t fit together.

 

[NakkiMuki]

I'll take a second to address this to perhaps help avoid any confusion. Sarah is not a love interest in the game. She is a peripheral NPC only.

Players do not know who is LI so the starting point is that everyone is LI. That’s why that scene angered a large number of players. It can be said to be a pretty devastating scene for the game. There should be avoidable options here for many things. That current style is not avoidable and it is the wrong way to do things especially when it annoys a big part of the players. That scene is completely detachable and doesn’t have to be shown to people who don’t like it.

 

[Canto Forte]

When a girl fkks someone, that means she went all the way
with someone we do not give a crap about.
She is giving herself to someone else.
That says everything about the skank: that asshole gets her
while we have to work for it? For what? Sloppy nothing?

Why is she not putting in any effort? Who is being sought after here?
The only reason a female prances around is to act like she is single.
Nobody wants to conquer the town whore!

Now ask yourself .. .why would any player enjoy being the third wheel?

Any sharing only works if MC fkks the girl first.
If MC does not, than MC is a beggar being given hand outs.

When you are showing a scene with 2 people MC does not know better,
you are effectively turning this into ”the poor beggar MC who cannot get laid”

There has to be a reason for wondering around .. MC has no reason whatsoever.
MC is a recluse and every time he goes out it is with a purpose.

MC is not on the lookout for people fkking so that he can join/watch.
The motivation has to be on point for any scene to work.

Going to your girl and when you arrive to see her fkked by some rando,
yeah, you turn right back and do not give another fkk about the world.

 

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[Mommysbuttslut]

So, if you have no interest in MMF and MMFF sharing then you are missing nothing by turning her down.

I think that's a pretty dangerous position to take too. If all she exists for is sharing scenes then you're gonna get a lot of harem fans getting upset at her mere existence. Whether it's optional or not I think you might get back a fair bit of good will out of it if you made a 1 on 1 make up scene with her. I get that she's not a LI but going by her dialogue she hasn't seemed to figure that out yet. Like where I'm at if she got some solo scenes then I'd still happily enjoy those, but if all she exists for is sharing then from my perspective the less we see of her at all the better.

Also, in case anyone is worried, the MMF and MMFF scenes will never include any of the main characters or love interests.

That would be better tbh. A sharing scene with an established LI where we have an absolute veto to completely prevent and then get a 1 on 1 make up scene is a lot better than introducing a character where all we get is a lame BJ scene while another dude's getting the good stuff. Even as a sharing scene that one wasn't very well done in my opinion, the MC was stuck in an entirely submissive position as the third wheel. Not to mention the end of the scene reveals she was basically lying to the MC and that the other guy didn't care at all whether there was a second man, which made the submissive fake cheating entirely unnecessary.

 

[Hildegardt]

OK, calm down you guys. Getting triggered by certain kinks is all fun and games. But it's getting out of hand, when the manifestos about your issues with women and purity start to come out. That's cringe.

 

[Cernunnos.]

Curious about the choice in this update with Zella. URM doesn't show any flags so hopefully it's more of a flavor choice rather than locking things into a certain route? Assuming she's even a LI, as the Sarah...situation and the Dev's response has made that harder to determine.