Ren'Py On Distant Shores [v0.17] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[SeveredRealms]

Why do you think this game "went to trash" because someone elses LI invited you to spit-roast her with her boyfriend in a completely optional scene? Sarah is dating someone else. She really can't be considered an LI (she is a side-fling/secondary at best).
Considering there are currently 11ish (we're not sure what is going to happen with the daughter yet) LI's, what makes you say/think/imply that this is not a harem game?


I am genuinely curious how you came to these conclusions.

There is no option to avoid going to the pool at all. You are only given the option to NOT join once your there. As many harem players will say you should not have even have been made to go at all. This was not at any point brought up in the previous version of the game and thrown in for what trying to pull in more people? Sharing and harem never work together and the way this was done is forcing the player to make a last minute choice. She straight up says she would be with him instead of her boyfriend.... This is not the way to make that point. If she really wants the mc instead of the Boyfriend she would have been with the mc and not shown getting railed the boyfriend. Harem players for the most part do not like Li's like that.

 

[Qoo-Rilla]

There is no option to avoid going to the pool at all. You are only given the option to NOT join once your there. As many harem players will say you should not have even have been made to go at all. This was no at any point brought up in the previous version of the game and thrown in for what trying to pull in more people? Sharing and harem never work together and the way this was done is forcing the player to make a last minute choice. She straight up says she would be with him instead of her boyfriend.... This is not the way to make that point. If she really wants the mc instead of the Boyfriend she would have been with the mc and not shown getting railed the boyfriend. Harem players for the most part do nit like Li's like that.

Yeah I don't need to start commenting when it came to you just the way it is. So that scene ended many games.

 

[Hildegardt]

Sharing and harem never work together

Doubt.

Don't be so prude. Nobody's gonna judge you on a porn forum, where many of the most popular games are about incest.

 

[linkinn]

Doubt.

Don't be so prude. Nobody's gonna judge you on a porn forum, where many of the most popular games are about incest.

Prude for not liking sharing? That's dumb. I like a shit ton of kinks that aren't considered prude, but i can't stand sharing/swinging/NTR, am i a prude just because i don't like this specific kink? i don't think so.

And i agree with Severed, generally speaking they don't work together, they are opposites.

 

[SeveredRealms]

Doubt.

Don't be so prude. Nobody's gonna judge you on a porn forum, where many of the most popular games are about incest.

says you joined in 2017. so you either dont pay attention to threads or just troll them when you feel like it. As a dev I watch the threads .i see what works what people bitch about and what doesnt work. This has nothing to do with this kink or that kink. it has everything to do with what people like in a game and dislike in a game and when it comes to harem games sharing/ swinging always lose the harem fans. In other words they do not go together with harem without causing a loss. it drives harem fans away and also makes any Li involved in it a dead character to the harem fans . Also as a dev it has nothing to do with being a prude and everything to do with what the fan base is for and against. The without kink shaming I will say certain kinks left out of a game will draw a larger crowd because even fans of the missing kink will still play a game with out it while someone that doesn't like certain kinks will walk away so what would benefit the dev more?

 

[Tavi13]

There is no option to avoid going to the pool at all. You are only given the option to NOT join once your there. As many harem players will say you should not have even have been made to go at all. This was not at any point brought up in the previous version of the game and thrown in for what trying to pull in more people? Sharing and harem never work together and the way this was done is forcing the player to make a last minute choice. She straight up says she would be with him instead of her boyfriend.... This is not the way to make that point. If she really wants the mc instead of the Boyfriend she would have been with the mc and not shown getting railed the boyfriend. Harem players for the most part do not like Li's like that.

Hmmmm.....fair enough. I never considered her an LI, so guess I didn't care. Got off the elevator, heard what was going on, and since it isn't my thing, I got back on the elevator, and went to bed.
Would have been a completely different story if I was forced to join, or if it was Kayla, Meili, Lily, etc. Then it would have been time to bid this vn farewell.
For me; as soon as Sarah mentioned a BF, I figured she wasn't anything other than a sideshow added for those with that particular kink. Not any different than the prostitutes/dancers/drunk-chick at the bar/random encounters that other harem games have added.

That is probably why I don't consider it having anything to do with the harem itself either. Current BF = not in my harem. Given the whole glamor thing going on, I'll probably tell her to stay with the BF in the future (assuming that is an option).

 

[Hildegardt]

Prude for not liking sharing? That's dumb. I like a shit ton of kinks that aren't considered prude, but i can't stand sharing/swinging/NTR, am i a prude just because i don't like this specific kink? i don't think so.

And i agree with Severed, generally speaking they don't work together, they are opposites.

Also as a dev it has nothing to do with being a prude and everything to do with what the fan base is for and against. The without kink shaming I will say certain kinks left out of a game will draw a larger crowd because even fans of the missing kink will still play a game with out it while someone that doesn't like certain kinks will walk away so what would benefit the dev more?

You're coming off as entitled, because it seems like you're trying to argue devs into catering to you specifically. You're not the authority on which kinks work together or make a game worth playing. Don't proclaim your personal preferences as facts. It's not a big deal, if you stop playing the game, it's a childish threat.

You're coming off as prudish, because you guys are making a big fuss about some kinks and you're clutching your pearls, as if you're the Karens of porn games.

 

[linkinn]

You're coming off as entitled

You are the one coming off as entitles, trying to say people opinion doesn't mean shit, it appears that only the dev and yours matter.

it seems like you're trying to argue devs into catering to you specifically.

Don't proclaim your personal preferences as facts. It's not a big deal, if you stop playing the game, it's a childish threat.

Where i'am arguing with the dev? Where is my threat, quote it. I'am saying my opinions about a game in a forum, press the ignore button if my opinions or others bother you that much.

You're not the authority on which kinks work together or make a game worth playing.

To me i'am, i could care less if the dev or you agree with me or not. I'am not going to stop posting because you don't want to read it, again entitled.

 

[Qoo-Rilla]

Doubt.

Don't be so prude. Nobody's gonna judge you on a porn forum, where many of the most popular games are about incest.

You're probably not serious? I have all the kinky fetishes, BUT I can’t stand it or literally HATE and the rage grows if there’s NTR, Sharing, Lez-NTR, Cuck, other dicks in the game, I don’t look at Other fucking, etc. all that involves a third party. I play games that literally fuck mom, sister, zombies, kid-looking, monsters, aliens, etc. etc. Don't fuck come here saying someone is prude if a person hates these things mentioned at the beginning.

Oh and it had to be mentioned that HAREM PLAYERS DO NOT LIKE TO SHARE THEIR WOMEN WITH OTHERS. So sharing is on the list of hated tags

 

[Hildegardt]

You are the one coming off as entitles, trying to say people opinion doesn't mean shit, it appears that only the dev and yours matter.

That's not entitled, that's just the way it is. In the end the dev's opinion is the only one that matters.

Remember what I was replying to. It's not a fact that sharing and harem never work together, it's just an opinion and the dev doesn't have to agree with it.
It's entitled to proclaim that the dev will get more support, if he caters to specific preferences. That's what the other commenter was doing. If this doesn't concern you, then why even argue?

Let's take a step back and realise that spitroasting just isn't a big deal.

You're probably not serious? I have all the kinky fetishes, BUT I can’t stand it or literally HATE and the rage grows if there’s NTR, Sharing, Lez-NTR, Cuck, other dicks in the game, I don’t look at Other fucking, etc. all that involves a third party. I play games that literally fuck mom, sister, zombies, kid-looking, monsters, aliens, etc. etc. Don't fuck come here saying someone is prude if a person hates these things mentioned at the beginning.

For somebody who's not into sharing, you're kinda sharing a lot of things that nobody even asked about here.

 

[UncleFredo]

You're coming off as entitled, because it seems like you're trying to argue devs into catering to you specifically. You're not the authority on which kinks work together or make a game worth playing. Don't proclaim your personal preferences as facts. It's not a big deal, if you stop playing the game, it's a childish threat.

You're coming off as prudish, because you guys are making a big fuss about some kinks and you're clutching your pearls, as if you're the Karens of porn games.

In the cultures where harems actually existed (and may well still exist) the penalty for unapproved poaching was a very painful death for all involved. So the view that harems generally were reserved for one and only one dick, has a lot of historical support. You can credibly argue that there were circumstances where the owner of the harem offered to share one of its members as an inducement or a reward, so it's reasonable, under appropriate circumstances, to offer that CHOICE to the player. Of course that choice should be without coercion.

Generally the view that any type of sharing and a harem don't fit is utterly reasonable.

 

[linkinn]

Let's take a step back and realise that spitroasting just isn't a big deal.

It is to me.

In the end the dev's opinion is the only one that matters.

That i'll agree, but it doesn't mean people can't express their opinion, if he is willing to accept them as feedback or drop it it's on him and not you or me. Devs aren't made of crystal and will break at the first negative feedback.

 

[HogRocket]

based on the number of people complaining about it (myself included), that the surprise sharing scene wasn't a great success and the dev should probably make note of that. If there had been a sharing tag there wouldn't have been a problem because those of us who don't like sharing would never have played. There are hundreds of games I've never played because they contain fetishes I don't enjoy. I leave them to those that do. What I don't like is playing a game and having a fetish I dislike pop up in the middle unannounced and unavoidable. If sharing or NTR is going to become a thing in this otherwise interesting game, then I will just leave it behind. Simply making the scene skippable would have made it a non-issue. I hate NTR, Futa\Trans\Trap, FemDom and some other things, yet I've played games that had them in them because they were avoidable. You could either skip the scene or turn the content off all together.

 

[baconsmoke]

I won't wade into the strong feelings about my game. I know that people like what they like and hate what they hate and I respect that. I'll simply make some brief points that may help you to decide if you want to keep playing or not. I will definitely not make any more posts on this topic. Because I want you to have fun and feel like you can praise or criticize without me being weird or sticking my nose in where it isn't welcome.

*** WARNING A VERY MINOR PLOT POINT IN THE GAME IS SPOILED REGARDING SARAH ***

*** You've been warned ***

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[M'95]

I won't wade into the strong feelings about my game. I know that people like what they like and hate what they hate and I respect that. I'll simply make some brief points that may help you to decide if you want to keep playing or not. I will definitely not make any more posts on this topic. Because I want you to have fun and feel like you can praise or criticize without me being weird or sticking my nose in where it isn't welcome.

*** WARNING A VERY MINOR PLOT POINT IN THE GAME IS SPOILED REGARDING SARAH ***

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Dont worry, it was all verry obvious. The characters total 180 turn in personalitiies (and afterwards they dont know why they acted that way etc).

Later it is explained more, when Order and Chaos interact directly with eachother(When MC has some suicidal thoughts).

I enjoy the writing, escpecially the discomfort MC has now he knows of the glamour and it's influence.

 

[Havik79]

Well, it was fine by me, was not interested in her anyway, as long as it is limited to her I couldn't care less, if more NTR/sharing is in even if you ignore Sarah then I guess I will need to move on, but don't give a shit about Sarah.

 

[stuffstuffstuff]

Such a childish outburst. Do you write angry letters to filmmakers every time you don't like a scene? Host book burnings when the story isn't just 100% pure protagonist ego stroking? Why does every single scene in every single game have to cater to you specifically?

 

[stuffstuffstuff]

Letters? Are you in 1900? There are sites for reviewing stuff nowadays on something called the internet.

And yes, people write reviews about movies...


Let's make an example, you went to see a comedy movie, in the middle of the movie the movie turns into a slasher movie out of nowhere (you hate slashers), you'll be pissed, once you get home you go into IMDB or RottenTomatoes and post a negative review, other people that don't enjoy slashers might find that helpful.

It's one scene that you were given the option not to participate in, not a complete narrative change in the game. It so far hasn't changed anything at all in the game other than if you pursue that specific character or not. Saying that a game is completely ruined (in a pretty aggressive post towards the dev) because of one scene, that you can walk away from and avoid being involved with that character in the future if that isn't your thing doesn't really seem like a reasonable response.

 

[linkinn]

It's one scene that you were given the option not to participate in, not a complete narrative change in the game. It so far hasn't changed anything at all in the game other than if you pursue that specific character or not. Saying that a game is completely ruined (in a pretty aggressive post towards the dev) because of one scene, that you can walk away from and avoid being involved with that character in the future if that isn't your thing doesn't really seem like a reasonable response.

I'll speak for myself, to me it wasn't really optional, not sure if it's because of my poor english or what.

I actually tought she was going to do a solo exhibitionist show and it would lead to a perhaps netori situation from the first invite, i also tought about a game that the MC has this kind of powers wouldn't introduce something like that because it doesn't make that much sense, so i went in and was blindsided by it, after i saw what was going on i just enter/space quickly, i can accept that it was my fault for not speaking proper english but...

I also liked her model and was expecting something with her, so it is double disappointment watching the scene.


I personally won't drop the game but as i said before, i'll never hold my tongue with things i don't like here, it's a forum.

 

[Qoo-Rilla]

It's one scene that you were given the option not to participate in, not a complete narrative change in the game. It so far hasn't changed anything at all in the game other than if you pursue that specific character or not. Saying that a game is completely ruined (in a pretty aggressive post towards the dev) because of one scene, that you can walk away from and avoid being involved with that character in the future if that isn't your thing doesn't really seem like a reasonable response.

That scene was forced and unavoidable. Then it is avoidable if much earlier, for example at the beginning of the game, the player is asked if you want the game's MMF scenes or not? THEN IT WILL BE AVOIDED.