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It's changed a couple of times.
Around chapter 3-4 Eva said it would be about 20 chapters, then around chapters 10-11 it dropped to 16, then the patrons over at Patreon threw a hissy fit that Eva said 20 when it wasn't really clear how much story there would be to tell in the early stages of the game so Eva said there would be 20 again to appease the patrons.
So to answer your questions somewhere between 12 chapters and a never ending story.
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There is a free pdf file attached to his patreon link in the post you quoted. You just have to read the pdf and make your desired path/s accordingly as described in the walkthrough as the game is pretty big and the path/s can be easily missed. It's just for assistance. If you don't wanna used it you can used JDMOD, link is in OP.
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Idk how it's taken me this long but I noticed a tiny detail about Axel's Instagram (Peoplegram... whatever) display picture. It's identical to one of Lena's poses in her first photoshoot with Danny in chapter 1. Maybe Lena used the same pose when she modeled for Axel and he still has the pictures? Idk if it's been mentioned in this thread or on Patreon before, but is this just coincidental or is this a subtle way to show just how embarrassingly hung up he is?
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I can see the similarity, but also the subtle difference, mainly in the color, but I don't think it's Lena, not really her, I guess if it were her, Lena would have realized it a while ago, what I think is that it is Lena's drawing, but not Lena in the game's fiction, I think Eva Kiss only recycled that Lena drawing for Axel's account, since it wasn't something important, just changing a little the color, I would do the same.
kekw well whatever hopefully we just get good character arcs and closure on some of them I trust them to finish it up nicely
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Ian is 5'9; according to the MMA height average, he's probably in the lightweight or welterweight division. The first opponent that Ian fought looked like a middleweight player.
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I couldn't find too many that were drastically different. Most of it was clothes that they already wear in this version of the game, just in slightly different scenes. But here are some of the bigger changes I noticed.
Alison with the belly piercing, but I think her dress was a little darker here, also her nipple was slipping out. I don't recall her nipple slipping out in the current version.
The biggest change, that I think any long time player remembers was Billy used to be black.
Lena's old sporty attire. She wears a sports bra now instead of a half zip.
This is a scene that now takes place in the mall. So not a character change, but the background change was immediately noticeable to me. Though it is kind of funny to imagine the three of them just walking around down town in their underwear.
Bad Jess used to have a red top, like her good counterpart. Now it's leopard print.
Stan's old design. Somehow he got a glow-up despite wearing worse clothes now.
The signs that Stan was going to be an incel all along.
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So whats everyones ranking of the guys?
I sorta exclude Ian since he the MC and his personality and performance varies from loser to winner, cuck to chad etc., he is winning by default since you don't experience most sex scenes without him.
After that, best is Axel, he has a oppressive presence and its good that he is used sparingly. His sex scenes are prime domination and great for ntr and corruption. A bit of a shame that the redemption/bro ith Ian arc as dropped, but once Cindy and possibly Cherry get rolling, it will be better.
Jeremy is annoying for sure, but his range and the variety with how many women he can end up (or not) make him a great, if not needed secondary male character. You get bro sharing, competition, cheating, all necessary elements for the porn aspecs of the game. The Lena-Louise-Ivy angle can be fun to mingle with, but the Alison/Emma sharing also has its peaks.
Mike is currently a bit stale since the temptation aspect of him and Lena have run its course. His gf has to be adressed and damn if it isn't Gillian, that ranks the drama and interaction with other characters up.
Seymour dropped the ball after chapter 9, the game isn't really benefiting from an antagonist like him. The Lena content is a one-way road, he has much less range than Axel. Maybe a colaboration with Agnes and Agnes, or throwing in another girl?
Robert gets a few points just through quantity, the sex scenes are mostly fine and it leading to a bit of rivalry with Ian gives it some meaning. Curious how the Holly content works out, it seems Eva doesn't simply drop him.
Stan is awful on the romantic route, his saving grace is the pay pet route with exhibitionist stalkfap Lena. Exploiting him on that route can escalate even further and its a good take on the hot girl ugly dude dynamic.
Perry currently has low content, but wingmaning your less fortunate friend and granting him a girl or two over the course of the game can be rewarding, there is also the teasing angle with him and Lena.
Marcel and his scene came out of nowhere. I prefered the odd pairing with Holly, it is a much spicier chpice for a corrupted Holly than Lena fucking him just because of BBC.
Jack was a random cameo, I don't get dialogue hinting that the two of them may meet again and develop their "relationship". I'd rather have him fuck Ivy.
Mark is the blandest generic love option either, he has nothing to say, no personality, and yet Lena and Holly can develop a relationship with him going further than a one-night-stand. I rage if that bland piece of wood turns out to be Gillians boyfriend.
I sorta exclude Ian since he the MC and his personality and performance varies from loser to winner, cuck to chad etc., he is winning by default since you don't experience most sex scenes without him.
After that, best is Axel, he has a oppressive presence and its good that he is used sparingly. His sex scenes are prime domination and great for ntr and corruption. A bit of a shame that the redemption/bro ith Ian arc as dropped, but once Cindy and possibly Cherry get rolling, it will be better.
Jeremy is annoying for sure, but his range and the variety with how many women he can end up (or not) make him a great, if not needed secondary male character. You get bro sharing, competition, cheating, all necessary elements for the porn aspecs of the game. The Lena-Louise-Ivy angle can be fun to mingle with, but the Alison/Emma sharing also has its peaks.
Mike is currently a bit stale since the temptation aspect of him and Lena have run its course. His gf has to be adressed and damn if it isn't Gillian, that ranks the drama and interaction with other characters up.
Seymour dropped the ball after chapter 9, the game isn't really benefiting from an antagonist like him. The Lena content is a one-way road, he has much less range than Axel. Maybe a colaboration with Agnes and Agnes, or throwing in another girl?
Robert gets a few points just through quantity, the sex scenes are mostly fine and it leading to a bit of rivalry with Ian gives it some meaning. Curious how the Holly content works out, it seems Eva doesn't simply drop him.
Stan is awful on the romantic route, his saving grace is the pay pet route with exhibitionist stalkfap Lena. Exploiting him on that route can escalate even further and its a good take on the hot girl ugly dude dynamic.
Perry currently has low content, but wingmaning your less fortunate friend and granting him a girl or two over the course of the game can be rewarding, there is also the teasing angle with him and Lena.
Marcel and his scene came out of nowhere. I prefered the odd pairing with Holly, it is a much spicier chpice for a corrupted Holly than Lena fucking him just because of BBC.
Jack was a random cameo, I don't get dialogue hinting that the two of them may meet again and develop their "relationship". I'd rather have him fuck Ivy.
Mark is the blandest generic love option either, he has nothing to say, no personality, and yet Lena and Holly can develop a relationship with him going further than a one-night-stand. I rage if that bland piece of wood turns out to be Gillians boyfriend.
its the same picture mate, no two ways about it. either there's a reason and it gets addressed in game or it's a plothole, at least to me as there's no way Lena shouldn't have noticed.
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Poor Billy, he turned white just like Michal Jackson 
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Yeah, the ranking from you is what I'd have also done.
- Ian can be left alone because he is mostly choice-driven.
- Marcel for corrupted Holly was looking good.
- Wade should also have some redemption arc, for now, he is just Perry 2.0. Taller, slower and more lazy.
- Stan the paypig suits him.
- Seymour should have a longer screen time because he is dealing with Lena mentally and it takes time for the buildup.
- Jack and the nightclub scene fit him because of his previous triumphs in GGGB. Now to see how Eva handles Jack's future path.
- Robert = . The son of mediocrity and disappointment.
- Mike was a good candidate after Ian. Sad, Eva made him like the other male casts. Lena trying to steal Mike with her pathetic attempts gets old fast. The ego of Lena on Mike's path is so comical to watch.
Poor Billy, he turned white just like Michal Jackson
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Oh yeah, Juicy & Plum Butt cheeks, Sure I know that I didn't forget her just the demand was for Lena, Ivy, Holly, and Louise so I made fan art, Look like People like some cakes as well
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Besides "they're all terrible"?
As we should, there is no fun in ranking characters we get to define anyway. For the rest I could rank them on a 1-10, where 5 is the starting point assuming a dude is "decent" with a more negative opinion towards 1 and a positive one towards 10.
Axel:
He's hot, so that's a plus 1. He's pathetic in regards to Lena, so that's a minus 1. If Ian is involved with Lena he becomes vindictive towards him which is even more pathetic, so that's another minus 1. He clearly cares about his photography even if he behaves shady around women so I'm willing to give him a plus 1 for that, he isn't only a meathead. We don't yet know where his relationship with Seymour will be going but for now he's his bitch so a minus one there.
4/10
Jeremy:
He's hot, so that's a plus 1. He's pathetic in regards to Louise, so that's a minus 1. He is pathetic towards Lena's sexual advances in spite of his bro code so that's a minus 1. He performs badly in bed so that's another minus 1. Despite his playa persona he has no game and has to have the main characters hand him his sexual conquests so that is another minus 1.
2/10
Mike:
He's hot, so that's a plus 1. He's pathetic in regards to his girlfriend, so that's a minus 1. He has clear talent and I get the impression he does care about music and isn't looking to do anything nefarious towards Lena when he's suggesting a collab, so for now that's a plus 1. Beyond that I have very little opinion of him.
6/10
Seymour:
He's old, so that's a minus 1. He's pathetic in regards to Lena, so that's a minus 1. He's interesting in regards to Ian and his book, so that's a plus 1 for now. In spite of his wealth and machinations he doesn't actually come across as an actual threat, so that's a minus 1. He acts like a bitch with Agnes so that's a minus 1.
2/10
Robert:
He uses his position to threaten Lena's job if you aren't receptive towards his advances. That's a minus 5.
0/10
Stan:
He is unattractive so that's a minus 1. He behaves questioningly around Lena so that's a minus 1. He has a stable job and separate interests in his photography, which is a plus 1. He has the guts to profess his feelings to Lena which is a plus 1 I think, nothing wrong with his confession as long as he takes being let down well. He has some worrying opinions about women which is a minus 1. I don't fault him for reacting to his treatment regarding Louise but he needs to be careful about generalizing.
4/10
Perry:
He is unattractive so that's a minus 1. He stands by his kinks which I can respect, so that's a plus 1. He's a lazy layabout so that's a minus 1. He lacks social awareness and gets on Ian's case about everything, minus 1.
3/10
Marcel:
You need big dick kink to do anything with him, which is boring, minus 1.
4/10
Jack and Mark are mostly cameos so I have no opinion on them really. If they get dedicated routes then that could change.
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Besides "they're all terrible"?
As we should, there is no fun in ranking characters we get to define anyway. For the rest I could rank them on a 1-10, where 5 is the starting point assuming a dude is "decent" with a more negative opinion towards 1 and a positive one towards 10.
Stan:
He is unattractive so that's a minus 1. He behaves questioningly around Lena so that's a minus 1. He has a stable job and separate interests in his photography, which is a plus 1. He has the guts to profess his feelings to Lena which is a plus 1 I think, nothing wrong with his confession as long as he takes being let down well. He has some worrying opinions about women which is a minus 1. I don't fault him for reacting to his treatment regarding Louise but he needs to be careful about generalizing.
4/10
Perry:
He is unattractive so that's a minus 1. He stands by his kinks which I can respect, so that's a plus 1. He's a lazy layabout so that's a minus 1. He lacks social awareness and gets on Ian's case about everything, minus 1.
3/10
Gosh, you made them blush.
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Yeah, the ranking from you is what I'd have also done.
- Ian can be left alone because he is mostly choice-driven.
- Marcel for corrupted Holly was looking good.
- Wade should also have some redemption arc, for now, he is just Perry 2.0. Taller, slower and more lazy.
- Stan the paypig suits him.
- Seymour should have a longer screen time because he is dealing with Lena mentally and it takes time for the buildup.
- Jack and the nightclub scene fit him because of his previous triumphs in GGGB. Now to see how Eva handles Jack's future path.
- Robert =
- Mike was a good candidate after Ian. Sad, Eva made him like the other male casts. Lena trying to steal Mike with her pathetic attempts gets old fast. The ego of Lena on Mike's path is so comical to watch.
- Jeremy - Never learns, never changes, doesn't understand the meaning of "no". Becomes worse with every passing chapter.
- Perry - Needs SO MUCH spoon feeding to set him up with Emma/Cherry. But he's the only one Ian's male friends that can have miniscule improvement, even though he's still an idiot.
- Wade - Writing wise, I'd say he's stagnated. I don't see any differences between Wade in chapter 1 and Wade now. Needs a kick up the ass.
- Marcel - He's a walking dildo.
- Jack - I know he's just a cameo but I never liked him in GGGB and I still don't care for him in ORS.
- Robert - His father made the mistake of not putting on a condom.
- Stan - Poorly written, just an incel. No redeemable qualities.
- Seymour - As an antagonist, I think him being on screen less can work well enough in the sense that you're forced to feel the impact of his actions. Kind of like what Rockstar Games does with their villains. Plus the less I see of that perverted fuck, the better.
- Mike - Genuinely what is the point of him being in the game? Just reveal him as Gillian's boyfriend so Ian can beat his ass.
- Axel - Scum, absolute scum. The worst of the worst. I'm glad the Axel/Ian bro arc was dropped. I don't want to like him.
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Yeah Jeremy gets worse and worse every chapter, early on he seemed like a bro who just had a weak will and zero self control when it came to hot women, but now he seems like a coward who can't even be honest with his supposed friend because it might cause him a bit of trouble. I guess it depends on what route you're on but even in the "best" route he's blatantly hiding shit from Ian.