Hi! TD mentioned these numbers for the toughness score once during a discussion and for now they are only a measure of how you tick. Currently the toughness score "just" alters dialogue and impacts relationship scores (which can become problematic even now, depending on how you play), with the one pissing event gated by your toughness. There is also a choice somewhere, which you only get if your toughness is low. According to TD, later on in development, there might be more events gated by your toughness.
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That would be the 5th choice in my post above. Other kind choices seem to be unaffected.
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choose "Try and warm Veronica up before the rest of the photo shoot".
Blond can easily pay/solve brown and red hair's problems.
It means, blond can just buy memberships directly with money. The problem of brown and red hair will be solved, they can just leave show. Considering the amount of money it takes for brown and red hair, the blond's entry fee is probably the lowest.
I think the main line can be enhanced a bit:
The brown hair's debtor is an underworld boss, the boss's purpose is to threesome the brown hair and her daughter. The brown hair join game is for her daughter, money is just 2nd goal. If the boss knows repayment comes from the show, the boss will back off because the boss doesn't want to mess up with the club members.
The red hair's gym is a workout spot for talented young people who have the talent to win Olympic and can't afford the exorbitant training fees. They can't compete professionally due to Olympic requirements. (this is a great way to add new girls)
It means, blond can just buy memberships directly with money. The problem of brown and red hair will be solved, they can just leave show. Considering the amount of money it takes for brown and red hair, the blond's entry fee is probably the lowest.
I think the main line can be enhanced a bit:
The brown hair's debtor is an underworld boss, the boss's purpose is to threesome the brown hair and her daughter. The brown hair join game is for her daughter, money is just 2nd goal. If the boss knows repayment comes from the show, the boss will back off because the boss doesn't want to mess up with the club members.
The red hair's gym is a workout spot for talented young people who have the talent to win Olympic and can't afford the exorbitant training fees. They can't compete professionally due to Olympic requirements. (this is a great way to add new girls)
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Respectfully, I don't think you're understanding the plot of PC as is. Felicia can't spend money to get into this club; considering a few scene that come later, she wants to achieve her entry into an an otherwise male-only space, and the only way to do that is through competing.
Also, your odd tangent about the plot seems somewhat non-sensical; alterations to Rosalind's plot wouldn't make sense now, nor does the Veronica idea. PC (in my opinion) isn't about "add new girls"--it's hardly a harem simulator.
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the saves are in folder \PaleCarnations-Ch3Up4Public-pc\game\saves.
Files in \PaleCarnations-Ch3Up4Public-pc\Renpy are the program files for Renpy to run, not the VN data/instructions.
So im playing along. So far I liking it. Mina seems to be my favourt girl so far, so im hoping to steal her from Ian (the good ntr ^_~), and maybe corrupt her? If its possible ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
But the thing I want to ask, it has the urination tag, what type of content was it. girls peeing like animals or watched? Wetting themselfs unable to hold it in ? or sexual watersports? Former two I find kinda cute/exciting content. If I keep on playing will I stumble apon said scenes, or do I need to do something specific ? If there is any intentional scenes at all.
But the thing I want to ask, it has the urination tag, what type of content was it. girls peeing like animals or watched? Wetting themselfs unable to hold it in ? or sexual watersports? Former two I find kinda cute/exciting content. If I keep on playing will I stumble apon said scenes, or do I need to do something specific ? If there is any intentional scenes at all.
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IIRC there is only one optional scene and it's about the mc peeing on one of the girls to humiliate her, if you want more spoilers, it happens during the first audience event
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I have a question for TD that came to mind after replaying the whole game in one go.
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Do you know how the game will be structured going forward? Because I have had no trouble maintaining both a maxed out relationship score with Hana and a toughness score of 30 (which as far as I can remember is also max, eventhough it doesn't say so).
Only in the last update are there some actions that I would like to take, that would lower my affection score with Hana somewhat, but as far as I can see, they're not related to the toughness score.
Otherwise, you're just assuming that it would be extremely difficult for a max toughness Edwin to woo Hana due to their different outlook in life, and I'd agree if there is no way to change Hanas outlook. Cue possible corruption path.
I can't say I'd view getting "more adventurous in bed" as corruption other than if the person in question has expressed moral missgivings about that very sexual practise.
What I'm talking about in PC is corruption in the sense that Hanas outlook on life is changed at least enough for her to not be bothered by the immorality going on at PC and/or high toughness Edwins morals (or lack thereof...).
There is no need to corrupt Felicia, she already wants to become part of PC, warts and all. While she might not have the same sadistic tendencies as Kathleen (then again, who knows what she might do should she be put in the driver seat?), she definitely have no moral missgivings about what's going on. If anything, the long term conflict should rather be between her outlook on life and that of a low toughness (or at least high morality) Edwin. Somehow I don't think this will be reflected in the game, but it would have been sweet if you could "uncorrupt" Felicia (in the same way it would be sweet to be able to corrupt Hana).
As for Mina, that's difficult to know. She's younger and seems more unsure about her place in the world, but that's not necessarily the same thing as being morally ambivalent. Also, importantly, whereas Hana already exist at PC and is marinated in everything happening there, has accepted it enough to allow for being groomed for a leadership role (which will marinate her even further, and quite possible start chipping away at her moral defences even without Edwins "help"), Mina is completely in the dark. Realistically, unless high toughness Edwin introduce her to the world of evil assholery very, veeery carefully, she should statistically speaking bolt as soon as she understands what he's about.
Actually, that would probably be true even for a low toughness Edwin, as long as he's still working at PC and partaking in it's debauchery. I think most women would go "Yeah, sure, you say you hate it, but still, there you are, working at a criminal enterprise, fucking prostitutes and exploited women for the pleasure of evil rich fucks who delight in their torment. So fuck you, you hypocrite bastard, you can fuck your whores all you want, but you won't be touching me again!". But just as I'm guessing there won't be any need for low toughness Edwin to "uncorrupt" Felicia, I'm guessing at least low toughness Edwin won't have to corrupt Mina. For instance by quitting PC and having a relationship with her without telling her any of the sordid business going on at PC. Or maybe we'll find out she has a dark side we haven't seen yet, which would come in handy if Edwin wants to stay at PC and still get with Mina.
By "funny business" I meant the kind of exploitative shit that seem to be PC:s USP. Many (not all) of its patrons seem to get off on the power dynamic and would probably not be interested if it was a 100 percent above the board consensual act with a sex worker that's perfectly fine (might even like it) with whatever sexual practise is going on.
Felicia won't need PC to be reformed. If anything, I think a reformed PC might clash with her stated goal of getting in on the action. She wants the influence and the connections she could get by rubbing shoulders with the rich and powerful patrons of PC. But many of these patrons are not likely to stay if PC is reformed into a sustainable fair-trade brothel. And even if it remains a high end brothel, the new kind of clientele would probably not serve Felicias goals in the same way.
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Nobles There are 4 more scenes that i remember. You can make one of the girls pee like a dog for a photo shoot (optional) and you can make one of the girls pee herself while riding you (optional).
Then there are two scenes with the same patron, in one you see him peeing on a girl through a camera (still frame, not optional) and later he is getting a bj and just pees down a girls throat.
Hey TD1900 awesome game, one of the best there is. The writing is amazing and the models, while also great have been improving along the game. It just hooks you up and you can't stop playing. It was 2am when i started considering calling it a night and thinking lets just finish this part... suddenly it was 2pm, that never happened to me before.
Some typos and errors i found:
Kathleen: Truthto be told, i don't really mind a little stink
Hana: Well, i need to get off to (the) lower levels.
Felicia: That('s) your advice as a professional?
Rosalind: "N-no, my daughter's twelve..." -- might be wrong but think it was said she was 13 somewhere else
Continuity issue in Lucy-Harper scene. in the "Harper didn't answer her." part, her nipples are covered, the next one uncovered. Tough it can be said it happened between frames.
Kathleen: "First time on one of thesebefore?" -- Have you been on one of these before?
(about Rosalind) I didn't want to throw he(r) down and rut- at least, not yet.
Kathleen: To my boyfriend and his bruised hand... to the frat boy whoa was now half-consciously pulling teeth out of his nose... things were a big deal to them.
Hana will always give Rosalind the point the second event?
I don't think Edwin was unusually moralistic in this last update, if anything i was a little surprised by his inner thoughts when he was with Mina, how he kept calling Mina a bitch or saying "looking at her stupid face". A few minutes later he is worried spiting on her tits would be crude. If he said those things out loud it would be ok as humiliation, but as inner monologue it seems to run against his usual opinion of Mina.
Curious if we will eventually meet her mother.
Like many others, saddened about the no incest, being Victoria the greatest milf of all times, but if that happened it might make her role in the greater story a little awkward, so i submit to the devs wisdom.
Some typos and errors i found:
Kathleen: Truth
Hana: Well, i need to get off to (the) lower levels.
Felicia: That('s) your advice as a professional?
Rosalind: "N-no, my daughter's twelve..." -- might be wrong but think it was said she was 13 somewhere else
Continuity issue in Lucy-Harper scene. in the "Harper didn't answer her." part, her nipples are covered, the next one uncovered. Tough it can be said it happened between frames.
Kathleen: "First time on one of these
(about Rosalind) I didn't want to throw he(r) down and rut- at least, not yet.
Kathleen: To my boyfriend and his bruised hand... to the frat boy who
Hana will always give Rosalind the point the second event?
I don't think Edwin was unusually moralistic in this last update, if anything i was a little surprised by his inner thoughts when he was with Mina, how he kept calling Mina a bitch or saying "looking at her stupid face". A few minutes later he is worried spiting on her tits would be crude. If he said those things out loud it would be ok as humiliation, but as inner monologue it seems to run against his usual opinion of Mina.
Curious if we will eventually meet her mother.
Like many others, saddened about the no incest, being Victoria the greatest milf of all times, but if that happened it might make her role in the greater story a little awkward, so i submit to the devs wisdom.
Look at the bottom right corner of the screen
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and a 5th one: after her fourth orgasm our beloved blonde cutie can not hold her bladder anymore (semi-optional)
although i am not 100% sure about the (optional) one ending of the reverse cowgirl of our cow-girl: this could be very well also a heavy squirt, the liquid looks a bit colourless.
Very interesting and at the same time sad, because it does indeed seem like maximum toughness isn't just a different flavour of the game, but a suboptimal route compared to minimum toughness and mixed.
Because if there isn't that much gated behind toughness and what there is, is in itself suboptimal for the tough route*, while you also ruin your chances with a couple of the LIs by going the tough route** , but don't gain any extra scenes as compensation, then the entire route seem suboptimal to me. Sure, if you really like Kathleen and/or the flavour of the tough route (or dislike Rosalind and Veronica and perhaps even Hana), it might still be worth it, but if you're neutral regarding the flavour difference and the LIs, then the minimum or mixed route seems to be the better choice, because it gives you more options without costing you anything.
That, to me, seem to be a suboptimal strategy for a game that's all about depraved shit extraordinaire. To bad the game is so fucking good anyway...
* In the sense that you loose more than you gain by doing the things that require high toughness and not doing the things that require low toughness.
** Compared to just one of the LIs if you go the non tough route.
Caveat: I'm of course just talking about what we have at the present, things might change later on, but if anything, as I've pointed out, I feel that the last update rather compounds that minimum toughness is really the "right" route and if the "minimum toughness will never be punished with fewer scenes" is to hold true throughout the game, I think it might be difficult to balance things moving forward.
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My god did I get under your skin! This is the second time you've replied to something I've written to someone else, trying to goad me into a fight.
Thing is, mr High moral defender of justice good guy, If you want to sit in the sandbox and fling sand, you'll have go at it alone, it just isn't my thing. Sorry mate!