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Yeah, you can never think about landlords/ladies and roommates in the same way again after your first VNs, right? ;)That you can "thank" Patreon and their bigotry for.
It's weird to think that stuff like this seems to be regarded as normal in some areas of the world. I live in a country where it's a criminal offense for landlords/-ladies to stick their noses into their tenants business too much. The two parties see each other exactly once, and that's when the contract is signed.
 
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Yeah, you can never think about landlords/ladies and roommates in the same way again after your first VNs, right? ;)That you can "thank" Patreon and their bigotry for.
Apologies if you already know all of this, but from 2013 to 2017 the US Department of Justice was applying a lot of pressure to American financial institutions to restrict their dealings with "high risk" industries. I think there were like 30 industries targeted, but the most notable ones were firearms sales, payday lending, and . . . porn. Payment processors, banks, and credit card companies felt like they couldn't be associated with a lot of things like virtual incest porn, so in turn they told companies like Patreon to ban that kind of content or else they wouldn't allow Patreon to use their services anymore.

On paper all of this DOJ meddling ended in 2017, but I think American financial institutions are still more than a little gun shy about dealing with these industries.

All that to say, Patreon may not actually be bigoted towards fictional incest porn, they may just feel like it's not safe for them to be associated with it. At the end of the day, they're just a player in the game too.
 
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DirtyMario

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Apologies if you already know all of this, but from 2013 to 2017 the US Department of Justice was applying a lot of pressure to American financial institutions to restrict their dealings with "high risk" industries. I think there were like 30 industries targeted, but the most notable ones were firearms sales, payday lending, and . . . porn. Payment processors, banks, and credit card companies felt like they couldn't be associated with a lot of things like virtual incest porn, so in turn they told companies like Patreon to ban that kind of content or else they wouldn't allow Patreon to use their services anymore.

On paper all of this DOJ meddling ended in 2017, but I think American financial institutions are still more than a little gun shy about dealing with these industries.

All that to say, Patreon may not actually be bigoted towards fictional incest porn, they may just feel like it's not safe for them to be associated with it. At the end of the day, they're just a player in the game too.
That is basically the core issue at hand here. The only widely used online payment processors are based in a country restricted by puritanical values, even if not overtly so. There is desperate need for competition in this field.
A payment processor should do exactly that, process payments. As long as the transaction is not straight up illegal, there is no place for moral high ground in providing a service. Every other industry would go straight out of business if they tried snooping in their customers business like that.
Then again, data protection laws are somewhat of an alien concept to americans, they wouldn't know any better.

As far as Patreon goes, there is more than enough past evidence that it's Trust & Safety Team is mostly run by SJWs, there's no question about that.
 
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The only widely used online payment processors are based in a country restricted by puritanical values, even if not overtly so. There is desperate need for competition in this field.
There might be a russian/chinesse alternative soon, though I don't know if it'd be better...
 

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There might be a russian/chinesse alternative soon, though I don't know if it'd be better...
I'd be curious since last I heard russia is all but cut off from most worldwide financial services at the moment. Regardless, I wouldn't send any of my personal data to china anyway. Tiktok does that for me already.
 
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