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Gato21

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It maybe a wee bit early to ask but, will each carnation have a good ending with MC.???
I can see a throuple with Hana and Mina, Veronica and Rosalind, Felicia and Mina, Felicia and Sophia??.. KATHLEEN!!!
Kathleen? I find her a great character and immensely entertaining, but come on, that bitch needs a stake metaphorically driven through her heart.
 
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reeroll

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What is planned next after this update?
Is Victoria going to be "fuckable" like rosalind,felicia?
Because the cliffhanger got me confused, I saw previously that the dev did not want to plan sexual content on her.
 

reeroll

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Victoria only in flashbacks from her porn videos. No incest will ever happen in this game (devs already said this).
That's what I tought, I was just checking to make sure.
Any news about which character will be the main focus of the next update?
 

Turret

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yes, i find a woman who is into hunting, freely chooses to let herself get gang banged on drugs on a food table, considers herself the worlds best chemist alive, is the personal slave of a scientist willingly, the way she absolutely toys with smart mc, is into experimenting on humans against their will, and is a chess master - all at the same time - much more creepy than chuck who seemingly just wants to fuck and even is willing to play 100 matches of chess against sophia just to fuck her. maybe future revelations will change that. she just seems like an absolute psychopath. the club owners seem more like slaves of their desire.
Sophia is a prime example of the fact that genius is just a shouting distance away from not being fully right in the head, but that is something you can work with quite well. Chuck on the other hand is a Janusface per excellence, you do not want to see what goes on when he let the reigns slip, willingly or unwillingly. Chuck does not want to "just" fuck Sophia, it is very massively implied that Chuck letting loose is nothing you want to be in attendence and is dangerous to boot!
The Housegirls he uses sometimes are deeply frightened of him. And more, the character you find so creepy, Sophia Lundgren, finds Chuck scary!
A tipp for you from life experience: If someone you know to be creepy or dangerous or strange is telling you he/she finds something this or that, listen closely and act accordingly!

while kat seems to be collaborating with abel+sophia because of getting more power and enjoying the drug testing, it wouldnt require her to keep the experiments a secret from august and chuck if they would be okay with it though.
so my guess would be that they would not be okay with it.
Pardon, but I am unable to follow your train of thought here, because I find it to be on the wrong salient. There have been multiple hints, e.g. Kath pushing Hana to accept her share in the club with the intention to buy her out later, the secret collaboration with Abel and Sophia, that Kath wants to gain more power in the club at the least, maybe longterm pushing out the others, becoming sole owner.
Naturally she collaborates with Abel in secrecy so that Chuck and August does not get wind of her gathering influence and power! The experimentation in the basement is nothing that would shock them, Chuck would even like it nearly as much as Kath does. But Kath does it in secret because she holds her deck close to the chest, she wants a hidden ace against Chuck and August.

its kinda a bit of a pointless discussion since we only have clues, but i find the knee jerk reaction many have (not sying you do) hearing about prostitutes a bit weird, since in many countries (at least in europe and asia) many prostitutes do it purely for financial advantage/easier job and not because they are forced into it by evil people. not all prostitutes are victims.
I live in a nation where prostitution is legal and have no problems with the general concept of prostitution. And I know that a nice sized chunk of prostitutes here do it for the money, it is a job like many others. A minority even gets off on it.
But even here we have a segment of prostitutes which were forced into it, not as much as in some other nations, but still.

But what you overlook when it comes to the PC club, that we have multiple smaller and bigger hints, through events and conversations, that the majority of the Housegirls is forced to work there for various reasons.

but that the girl in the basement is there for personal preference seemed highly unlikely.
Certainly not, but she would be dead already otherwise. Who do you think put her there? Kath and her right hand Warren, Abel and Sophia would not be there to experiment if they had a secret "supply" of test subjects elsewhere.
Kath stated that a Darius situation would never happen again and Chuck phrased his answer very ambigiously to his fate.
Even if Darius and his girl made it, Kath is resolved to never let it happen again, which means a terminal solution. It is implied that the girl in the basement is one nobody will miss and crossed Kath the wrong way. Which means she would have been killed as a loose end by Kath via Warren, but being a test subject for Sophia´s tests keeps her alive.
 

Bill Temple

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the changelog said the revised a chapter but which one was it? im confused :/
Some people didn't feel that Edwin's character was consistent with their other play choices during the last scene with the unexpected guests.
The public version is out now:



Probably not worth redownloading the update, but I wanted to note here that we revised Ch4Up2's concluding scene to be player driven. This is mostly an RP and flavor thing; You won't miss anything critical by not going back and replaying it.
 

Bill Temple

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btw had to search up janusface and just before hitting enter i knew for some reason what would come up lol
very strange, didnt know the word heh
ahh, a type of glitch in the matrix. your knowledge table sometimes gets updated ahead of the global events table due to bottlenecks and insufficient concurrency controls. It's a common enough problem with massive distributed databases, but not to worry, there's a cleanup algorithm that should correct that next time you sleep.
 

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there is something about Pale Carnations that I can't look past, and... I did a search on this thread, and no one seemed to have mentioned it before. So I'm curious, is it just me, or does this feel like a very Japanese sorta cast placed in a very American environment?

I've watched my fair share of anime, read manga's, and even played those old school AVN (Xchange... aah, memories). A lot of those Japanese tropes seem to come back here: large bossoms, slightly exagerated emotional expressions, The Cutesy character (Mina with lots of pink), the badass one (Hanna with lots of blacks), unusual hair colours, women have large eyes and so on.

all male characters also kinda look Japanese and Asian. It doesn't bother me, it just made me curious. I was initially wondering if this was a Japanese game being translated (but it's not, that much I understood), or simply a choice of 3D characters.

That being said, I really appreciate the depths of all characters who on surface can strike as stereotypical and then quickly are fleshed out.
The primary inspiration for this project was , but my whole frame of reference when it comes to visual novels is built upon eroge in general. I've played a lot of them, over a rather long time, so you can attribute some of the conventional elements to that.

As for the appearance of the characters, as someone said, that's likely because the tool used is a Japanese-made poser addon for another H-game.
 

Turret

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has she said somewhere why she finds him scary?
Currently no, at least if I have not missed it. But I know that we should not take her feeling lightly.

you are right. kat might be doing it in secret to gain the favor of abel without chuck+aug knowing about it. but why would abel not just ask chuck+aug in the first place if they would likely sanction it?
if abel just wants to establish experiments there he could do it simultaneously while the club still exists, if chuck+aug had no problems with that. he wouldnt need to overthrow the club.
or do you think its something personal?
well, if he for some reason absolutely wants chuck+aug out of the club or just doesnt want the club to exist anymore, supporting kat would make sense short term.
I think there are partly personal reasons involved. Van Doren has a special disdain for Chuck, even more than against August. I theorise it will depend on if we play our Edwin good, neutral or bad, how much and in what version these personal reasons play a role. I find it likely that in the case of a good (and probably neutral) Edwin Abel and Sophia will turn out to be goodish as well. If we play a bad Edwin, they might turn out to be close to what you think.

but regardless, in the end it surely turns out like you said. poor victim prostitutes. bad bad pimps. just had to play devils advocate here since ive not seen many hints that it is like that so far, and often people here frame it like that. the usual narrative. poor poor women.
I am completely sure TD1900 could write a PC club with as good a leadership it can be, but here comes the inspirations for PC into play. Games like "Starless" and Co. We will have good, but also bad ends, which are not necesaarily the same for Edwin. But TD once mentioned that a major decision of the game will be if we stay with the club, however that turns out or if we try to leave it behind, however that plays out.
If this decision is to have this major impact, there must be substantial conflict potential with the Club and it´s practises. Be it that we want to reform the club, keep it like it is or go full Kath and Chuck on it. Or that we decide that enough is enough and try to leave.
 

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The primary inspiration for this project was , but my whole frame of reference when it comes to visual novels is built upon eroge in general. I've played a lot of them, over a rather long time, so you can attribute some of the conventional elements to that.

As for the appearance of the characters, as someone said, that's likely because the tool used is a Japanese-made poser addon for another H-game.
I was the biggest fan of STARLESS. Now I know why I got a familiar feeling from Pale Carnation. Thanks for the great scenario.
 

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Grace its so hot and looks a lot younger then the years shes given other one looks nice to i hope there will be scenes where mothers of the "Bromance" are involved for example one dude screws the other dude mother and the other one instead to be pissed off and beat the crap out of hes friend gives ever nicer banging to his friend mother in return or something like that! Also will be nice if there will be scenes with the assistant of that nasty scientist! By the way is there scene where MC uses the Syringe?
 
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