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An evening thought for any Hentai manga aficionado out there: if you like Pale Carnation, and our protagonist's backstory in particular, you may enjoy (and I strongly suggest you to search and read) "Boku no Shiranai Haha" by Kishizuka Kenji. It's easily available online with some easy Google-fu.
Now, Pale Carnation has an undeniable advantage over the manga: the backstory has a lot more time to brew, and a lot more depth and nuance. Yet, I adore the author's art style, and I hope you can enjoy it too; as an extra, there may be some interesting parallels and differences to mull over.
Now, Pale Carnation has an undeniable advantage over the manga: the backstory has a lot more time to brew, and a lot more depth and nuance. Yet, I adore the author's art style, and I hope you can enjoy it too; as an extra, there may be some interesting parallels and differences to mull over.
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RIP, no more next generation engine and model for the game who based on hs and koikatsu, hope the mods can still keep the engine alive or the developers may start to change to use other engines.
Yeah, I came on here to find out what the impact of this will be to these games being developed with the HNey Select assets?You must be registered to see the links
RIP, no more next generation engine and model for the game who based on hs and koikatsu, hope the mods can still keep the engine alive or the developers may start to change to use other engines.
I’ve never purchased any of Illusion’s games but my understanding is that the models for games like Pale Carnation and others with these models are derived from Illusion’s Koikatsu and Honey Select.
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The engine will be maintained by the community for sure, even though the company died. There are still emulators for dead consoles after all.
Would be nice if copyrights change though, some games could make hundreds of thousands or even millions on steam.
Would be nice if copyrights change though, some games could make hundreds of thousands or even millions on steam.
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The copyrights are the most worrisome part of this news for us fans. If Fakku is able to use this situation to cheaply expand their copyright holdings beyond HS Unlimited, it might not be long before Jacob starts trying to acquire new revenue streams. If your assessment of the market potential is realistic, they'd likely do that. Even if it's economically viable or advantageous to enter a licensing agreement with Fakku, I'm worried about the editorial control they'd be able to exert.
I wonder if it's better in this situation if you're wrong about the market, so Fakku decides it's not worth the effort to try to destroy the things we love.
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The engine and everything associated with it is a company asset, and will likely be sold. It's unlikely to simply be abandoned.
Maybe the one which own of will own Honey Select copyrights could create a graphic engine based on it.
Illusion dying shouldn't really have an impact on the project. At least not in a technical sense. It's not like they have been patching and maintaining HS1 for a long time.
The only questionable thing is who the rights will end up going to and if they will try to exert control over projects made with the studio, like Fakku attempted to do a few years ago.
The only questionable thing is who the rights will end up going to and if they will try to exert control over projects made with the studio, like Fakku attempted to do a few years ago.
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Maybe you developers should coordinate and try to bid on the rights for HS1 and 2 yourself, like Caribdis is joking about: https://f95zone.to/threads/eternum-v0-5-public-caribdis.93340/post-11231173
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I was thinking the same thing. I wonder what would be a competitive offer if Runey, Caribdis, Gil, TD, Jikei, Zanith, Jestur, Altos, Herdone, and ILS all pooled resources? Distributing the risk across all those most likely to be able to recoup the cost seems like a reasonable business move depending on the price.Maybe you developers should coordinate and try to bid on the rights for HS1 and 2 yourself, like Caribdis is joking about: https://f95zone.to/threads/eternum-v0-5-public-caribdis.93340/post-11231173
Then they can become the corporate overlords meddling in the newcomers' work.
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If I was in a position where I could divert some of a revenue stream into exploratory investment budgets in the tens of millions, I would totally do this. It couldn't be more than a million or so, could it? Porn IPs in Japan are like salt in American grocery stores, right? Like there's so many that margins are super low... that would be hilarious if our favorite deviant devs suddenly went all Green Bay Packers and owned the means of production XD
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No idea what to make of this caption...
Seriously, shame that the costs for them to aquire the engine are likely too prohibitive.
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It would be awesome, and not an impossible dream to attain. I mean, when a company's closing up shop, they'll sell at whatever price they can get. $100 million or $1: anything greater than zero is a win. Since they're shutting down, it demonstrates to everyone that their core products aren't financially viable, so whoever picks them up should only do it at pennies on the dollar, unless there's a lot of competitive bidding from interested parties.
My suggestion was more like an owners group for a sports franchise, but if we're thinking about using the Packers as our model, they're "community owned". So maybe we should set up a gofundme with a goal of JP¥ 3billion? I'm spit-balling numbers here. Think we can acquire rights to all HS and Koikatsu properties for that?
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I have no idea if that's a fair value... it seems so high for such a niche product. I dont know, it all throws my instincts off lol
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Seems like Veronica and the MC are going into a bar and one of the other patrons there is interested into the MC. So she sends her friend over to sound things out. Could of course also be that the woman in the screen shots wants to flirt with Veronica and just creates a pretense to get rid of the MC.No idea what to make of this caption...
veronica's ex-wife perhaps?Seems like Veronica and the MC are going into a bar and one of the other patrons there is interested into the MC. So she sends her friend over to sound things out. Could of course also be that the woman in the screen shots wants to flirt with Veronica and just creates a pretense to get rid of the MC.
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I don't know...that depends who says that sentence to whom. Original I thought the woman in the shot was saying it to Veronica about the MC, but you're right: It kinda makes more sense if someone says that towards the MC about Veronica.