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You need to raise Veronica's friendship score high enough to get the choice for Edwin to hug her after Kathleen pretty much rapes her.
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- Jan 22, 2020
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You need to have this
She'll say no, but then call up later to invite the MC, so I presume it's the "veronicaFriend" flag... there was a choice ages ago when she was crying and naked where you could hug her and say you wanted to be her friend.
Edit: Yeah is splits slightly earlier in the convo when MC says something about how she's making it hard work for just a how are you...
- Aug 3, 2019
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i loaded a old save and i already did have that option to hug her and i did.....
- Aug 3, 2019
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yeah i did have that, but she said no. Oh i guess i have to keep playing, i thought she was suppose to say yes right there. Gotcha thanks.
- Sep 5, 2021
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HNNNG straight to the heart strings... i would be at this girls mercy in RL, i have no defense to a good pout.
- Sep 30, 2017
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Let you give me my take on this.
There are just 2 main girls that are possible love interest and not working as a prostitute or a carnation girl. There are other girls as well, like your boss and other minor characters, but they are not possible love interest.
Of that 2 love interest, one is currently in a relationship and are having sex offscreen. The other one is currently not attached to anyone.
If the of the 3 main carnation girls 1 is married and can have onscreen sex depending on your choice, one can have on screen sex depending on your choice and the other one, is relatively untouched at this stage (Except if you count lesbian action as NTR)
You can get attached to some of the other girls as well, but they are prostitutes and definitely have sex with other men (Most off screen, but some on screen)
So to answer you question. It is not an NTR focused game. But it is in a brothel setting and lots of other men have sex with girls you might like.
Having said that, the girls you can pursue into some kind of relationship (not just sex) at this stage, once in a relationship does not cheat on you.
Another update, another opportunity to savour the relationships in the story. I do have to say that the scenes away from the exhibitions, and the ones that are club adjacent rather than the club situate, are my favourite, and so both this update and the previous update were quite welcome.
As always, the presentation and visual quality of the game just continue to improve and excel. In trying to catch all my saves up to speed (there are now 38 pages of them at various junctures for the various paths), I ran a few saves from the early days to the present, and the improvements to an already visually well-defined product was nothing short of remarkable. A fair few of the visual shortcomings from the first few chapters, such as overly pale skin on certain characters and the relative lack of details in the male cast due to HS restraints, have now all been smoothed over. One observation I made was that I can now actually buy into the idea somewhat that Ian's as good looking as the characters in the game make him out to be.
The texture of skin, the detail in their hair, these little things that build up over time culminated in me being almost startled when we call Felicia to check up on her and the camera zooms in to show a beautiful profile of the blonde in her bikini. The way the gold and yellow colours of her outfit and hair worked off of each other with the lighting, especially the flowing strands of Felicia's hair, *chef's kiss, looked simply phenomenal. I honestly am amazed that GIL is able to get these sorts of results from the HS engine and continues to push the limits on a relatively dated character creator (RIP Illusion).
Ian and MC's new hairstyles were also quite refreshing, though I will miss how perfectly his previous hairstyle matched the dweeb persona that I've embraced. I could see MC's hair working especially well to give Patrick Bateman style slimey vibes in a more sadistic playthrough. I think him freshening up and meeting Veronica also caught her by surprise with how well put together he looked, but I'll have more to say when I talk about her scenes specifically.
It was another thoroughly great update, even if I'm not the biggest Veronica enjoyer. I do think that there was also plenty of other content and progressed several plot points, and has whet my appetite for the next update.
Kudos TD and GIL, in a world where many great AVNs that I follow on this site have plateaued or saw slight dips in quality, Pale Carnations keeps on delivering.
As always, the presentation and visual quality of the game just continue to improve and excel. In trying to catch all my saves up to speed (there are now 38 pages of them at various junctures for the various paths), I ran a few saves from the early days to the present, and the improvements to an already visually well-defined product was nothing short of remarkable. A fair few of the visual shortcomings from the first few chapters, such as overly pale skin on certain characters and the relative lack of details in the male cast due to HS restraints, have now all been smoothed over. One observation I made was that I can now actually buy into the idea somewhat that Ian's as good looking as the characters in the game make him out to be.
The texture of skin, the detail in their hair, these little things that build up over time culminated in me being almost startled when we call Felicia to check up on her and the camera zooms in to show a beautiful profile of the blonde in her bikini. The way the gold and yellow colours of her outfit and hair worked off of each other with the lighting, especially the flowing strands of Felicia's hair, *chef's kiss, looked simply phenomenal. I honestly am amazed that GIL is able to get these sorts of results from the HS engine and continues to push the limits on a relatively dated character creator (RIP Illusion).
Ian and MC's new hairstyles were also quite refreshing, though I will miss how perfectly his previous hairstyle matched the dweeb persona that I've embraced. I could see MC's hair working especially well to give Patrick Bateman style slimey vibes in a more sadistic playthrough. I think him freshening up and meeting Veronica also caught her by surprise with how well put together he looked, but I'll have more to say when I talk about her scenes specifically.
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It was another thoroughly great update, even if I'm not the biggest Veronica enjoyer. I do think that there was also plenty of other content and progressed several plot points, and has whet my appetite for the next update.
Kudos TD and GIL, in a world where many great AVNs that I follow on this site have plateaued or saw slight dips in quality, Pale Carnations keeps on delivering.
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Really liked this update, brought me closer to understanding Ian, Rosalind and Veronica(played both options at the end, will stick with the one where we spend far more time with her, the other seems almost throwaway or for the more cold-hearted).
- Sep 5, 2021
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So i did a search and it's clear this game is not going for incest with the mom. But, given that she's there, she's made very lovable and we're made to feeeel for her... why isn't incest on the table? Like, is it just a personal preference thing or simply not what this story is about or is it just cause it keeps Patreon of your back? I want mommy dearest to be well taken care of, have all her needs fulfilled but there's no dude in the game that i've seen so far that would be 'good enough' for her in my eyes... oh god, i just realised, she doesn't get involved with the club does she? Or like, the service side of it? That'd be too awful to keep playing...
- Jun 15, 2022
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The problem is the mod worked for a random save I found here, most of the broken saves also don't work on the fresh install of the game.
- Mar 10, 2018
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TD1900 Damn it man, I can't tell if I want to go through with fucking Veronica or not. On the one hand, the game and dialogue kept telling me over and over not too.
On the other hand, the scenes are just so freaking hot. And the pool talk about shotput was awesome.
On the other other hand, all the talk of Veronica being a 'conquest' really struck close to home. I'm a sucker for when video game characters get to participate in the conversation about their role in the story.
On the other hand, the scenes are just so freaking hot. And the pool talk about shotput was awesome.
On the other other hand, all the talk of Veronica being a 'conquest' really struck close to home. I'm a sucker for when video game characters get to participate in the conversation about their role in the story.
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- Jun 25, 2018
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You can always skip this update and wait for the next one at least 4 months (probably more), it shouldn't make you any difference. Meanwhile the rest of us prefer shorter intervals between updates instead of waiting 8 months or more.
TD has been very clear from the start and in this very thread (and on patreon and on Discord) he emphasised (several times, starting 4 months ago when previous update came out that it might be the case if they won't decide on bigger update) that if you're not on Veronica's path the update may feel short. In the OP you also have clear changelog so the choice is very simple.
bruh get it too i just want to fuck that red muscle bitch! she is so hot would let her spit on me.
- Apr 18, 2020
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just finished the update, s-tier stuff as usual. keep up the good work TD and GIL
While I admit that I enjoy being a contrarian, but I am also completely sincere when I state that I find the whole 'muscle girl' aesthetic to be entirely unattractive, have you ever actually seen a muscled woman IRL? It's ugh just fucking wrong bruh, like what the fuck, why would you want to fuck that?
This makes it sound exactly like an NTR focused game. I appreciate the overview and warning friend.