VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch. 4 Up 4 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Ottoeight]

that is what i was looking for thank you, didnt expect that you had to reject her first to choose the romance path but i guess it does make some sense

Bro, Mr Bubu's walkthrough:

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if you didn't cross the line with Mina (therefore you didn't trigger variable #143) and Hana isn't your girlfriend (therefore you didn't trigger variable #192) you go to the park.
At the park, if you have at least 23 Mina love point you can trigger variable #204 and get a second chance with her.

In the tub, you have the option of being lovers (romance), or effectively fuck buddies. Thus far it looks like you'll get all the same scenes with either choice, with just minor differences on either path. Mina doesn't drop you as a fuck buddy if you cheat on her as a lover (ironic since that's why she broke up with Ian, whereas Hana, who knows where you work, demands exclusivity).

There is no such a choice. You either are casual lovers or you reject her. There is not a Mina girlfriend route at the moment. You are casual lovers, because she only wants you to fuck her until you get her numb by pleasure (oh yeah!): you can only choose whether you want to be truthful to her and raise her bicurious point. That's it.

ye ye I remember I choose the kissing option and not just accepting the proposal. and ye i know she doesnt drop you. lol i agree, i guess shes just a bit fucked up regarding that, i mean she wants to see MC doing felicia so and also mentions something of a 3some with hana too if i remember correctly, that is why i was wondering if choosing the other path would maybe "uncorrupt" her just in case there are options in future versions



interesting, maybe? if dev somewhere confirmed that ok

also I think I just might be getting confused with the walkthrough mod, its in that mod in that park scene where it says "Romance" as first option, I think just that little detail put that all off lol.

actually now rereading that park scene I see what takkatakka means and it looks like its really just to pick up the path again. welp thanks for your time clearing this up gents

This is what you get when you do the "perfect" route with her (by crossing the line first and be truthful):



And this is what you get by first staying friends, then kissing her in the park:


You see the difference?

 

[YuNobi1]

There is no such a choice. You either are casual lovers or you reject her. There is not a Mina girlfriend route at the moment. You are casual lovers, because she only wants you to fuck her until you get her numb by pleasure (oh yeah!): you can only choose whether you want to be truthful to her and raise her bicurious point. That's it.

Left choice = lovers
Right choice = fuck buddies
Unavailable choice = rejection, aka "I just want us to be friends. Let’s not ruin it by adding sex to the equation."

If you're at this point, rejecting Mina sex is not an option, only casual sex, or something more.

 

[thememeguy123]

Bro, Mr Bubu's walkthrough:

Page 29:

if you didn't cross the line with Mina (therefore you didn't trigger variable #143) and Hana isn't your girlfriend (therefore you didn't trigger variable #192) you go to the park.
At the park, if you have at least 23 Mina love point you can trigger variable #204 and get a second chance with her.





There is no such a choice. You either are casual lovers or you reject her. There is not a Mina girlfriend route at the moment. You are casual lovers, because she only wants you to fuck her until you get her numb by pleasure (oh yeah!): you can only choose whether you want to be truthful to her and raise her bicurious point. That's it.





This is what you get when you do the "perfect" route with her (by crossing the line first and be truthful):
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And this is what you get by first staying friends, then kissing her in the park:
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You see the difference?

ye I was just confused with the walkthrough mod calling it "romance" path at the park scene (the gallery is open that is how I checked it) I just thought I missed the scene because I cheated on mina somewhere and theres a variable like for hana for her too. it is weird though that you get the acting partner relation if you kiss her in the park, you go to the hotel after that anyway no? is it still acting partner after the hotel? I'd assume you would only get that if you picked the second option staying friend. anyway think everything cleared up for me

 

[thememeguy123]

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Left choice = lovers
Right choice = fuck buddies
Unavailable choice = rejection, aka "I just want us to be friends. Let’s not ruin it by adding sex to the equation."

If you're at this point, rejecting Mina sex is not an option, only casual sex, or something more.

ye I think that choice was pretty important in that regard, the park scene is likely just to pick up her path again if you first rejected her or maybe not. guess we'll find out in the next update

 

[Takkatakka]

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Left choice = lovers
Right choice = fuck buddies
Unavailable choice = rejection, aka "I just want us to be friends. Let’s not ruin it by adding sex to the equation."

If you're at this point, rejecting Mina sex is not an option, only casual sex, or something more.

Maybe the left choice might lead to more down the line, but at least so far they aren't in a committed relationship like you can be with Hana as far as I understand it.

 

[Simpgor]

i mean she wants to see MC doing felicia so and also mentions something of a 3some with hana too if i remember correctly, that is why i was wondering if choosing the other path would maybe "uncorrupt" her just in case there are options in future versions

Mina wanting to experiment with girls is entirely up to player choice (bi-curious score in the screenshots above) if you make choices that raise it she includes that she wants to experiment while telling you about her "fuckit" list.

I (personally) think Edwin doesnt really corrupt mina he is just helping her be honest with herself (both sexually and not) but this could obviously change as the game goes on

 

[Ottoeight]

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Left choice = lovers
Right choice = fuck buddies
Unavailable choice = rejection, aka "I just want us to be friends. Let’s not ruin it by adding sex to the equation."

If you're at this point, rejecting Mina sex is not an option, only casual sex, or something more.

If you choose the "right choice", you don't become "fuckbuddies": you just choose the wrong choice - you won't become "casual lovers" and you won't bang her on 14th June.

You don't enter a "fuckbuddies" route and you don't get any "fuckbuddies" status: you just miss the chance of making a new step forward in your relationship with Mina and remain as "acting partner" instead of becoming "casual lovers".

 

[thememeguy123]

Mina wanting to experiment with girls is entirely up to player choice (bi-curious score in the screenshots above) if you make choices that raise it she includes that she wants to experiment while telling you about her "fuckit" list.

I (personally) think Edwin doesnt really corrupt mina he is just helping her be honest with herself (both sexually and not) but this could obviously change as the game goes on

I agree, wrong wording

 

[YuNobi1]

If you choose the "right choice", you don't become "fuckbuddies": you just choose the wrong choice - you won't become "casual lovers" and you won't bang her on 14th June.

You don't enter a "fuckbuddies" route and you don't get any "fuckbuddies" status: you just miss the chance of making a new step forward in your relationship with Mina and remain as "acting partner" instead of becoming "casual lovers".

I do pick the right choice, which is agreeing to do fucket list, and I get the hotel scene (where I get the option to say "I love you"), so I don’t understand how this isn't "fuck buddies". There's nothing in her script that involves hotel "call me daddy" sex, so this is definitely not "acting partner".
Choosing left choice and then fucking Hana triggers the "Cheated on Mina" tag and can be addressed in the cafe immediately before the hotel scene.

 

[thememeguy123]

I do pick the right choice, which is agreeing to do fucket list, and I get the hotel scene (where I get the option to say "I love you"), so I don’t understand how this isn't "fuck buddies". There's nothing in her script that involves hotel "call me daddy" sex, so this is definitely not "acting partner".
Choosing left choice and then fucking Hana triggers the "Cheated on Mina" tag and can be addressed in the cafe immediately before the hotel scene.

I'm pretty sure I choose the left choice and also fucked hana but I don't remember it being addressed in the cafe (at this point hana relation fuckbuddies and mina casual lovers) and at the end of the hotel scene there is also the option to say "I love you" assuming you are talking about the same, just before you creampie her?

 

[Elduriel]

What type of game is this? Is it a femdom focused game? Brothel management?
Which fetishes are avoidable?

No and no. MC starts working at a brothel, but you don't manage it. There is a yearly event where 3 women (the carnations) are put through a competition, which is all about degradation, humiliation, etc of these women. You'll be an active participant in these events, and you'll be responsible for the well-being of girls in and outside of the event. But your interactions are not limited just to the brothel. Some fetishes are not avoidable, can't really list them all. You should give it a shot, it's really good.

 

[ename144]

If you choose the "right choice", you don't become "fuckbuddies": you just choose the wrong choice - you won't become "casual lovers" and you won't bang her on 14th June.

You don't enter a "fuckbuddies" route and you don't get any "fuckbuddies" status: you just miss the chance of making a new step forward in your relationship with Mina and remain as "acting partner" instead of becoming "casual lovers".

No, you're confusing this choice for the later one on the park bench. If you pick the right-most choice here (as shown on the walkthrough), you'll definitely become Fuck Buddies with Mina and you can still get her sex scene in Chapter 4.


As a side note, I love the way Mina gets to tease Felicia if the MC accepts Mina's advances but rejected Felicia from the start. (Felicia, meanwhile, will keep mum about her own rejection if the MC shoots them both down.)

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[Ottoeight]

No, you're confusing this choice for the later one on the park bench. If you pick the right-most choice here (as shown on the walkthrough), you'll definitely become Fuck Buddies with Mina and you can still get her sex scene in Chapter 4.
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That's what I told. I told the same thing you say. By "right choice", he meant the choice on the right side of Mr Bubu's flowchart walkthrough. That's why I put those words in quotes and wrote that the "right choice" was the "wrong" one.

I do pick the right choice, which is agreeing to do fucket list, and I get the hotel scene (where I get the option to say "I love you"), so I don’t understand how this isn't "fuck buddies". There's nothing in her script that involves hotel "call me daddy" sex, so this is definitely not "acting partner".

Don't ask me why: this is how things are. The game notifies you when a relation with a girl changes, so you know when Mina's relation status changes from "acting partner" to "casual lovers".

You cross the line, then you accept with a kiss ---> casual lovers
You don't cross the line, but you kiss in the park and get "a clean start" ---> remain acting partner. BUT I guess you can become "causal lovers" in a future update.

Choosing left choice and then fucking Hana triggers the "Cheated on Mina" tag and can be addressed in the cafe immediately before the hotel scene.

Yes. You know, if you first cross the line with Mina and accept her with a kiss, then you dump her because you choose to be Hana's girlfriend, you will have a "casual lovers" relation status at the end of this latest update.

These are my relationship statistics with Hana and Mina in my Hana girlfriend gameplay, without cheating on Hana:

 

[YuNobi1]

You cross the line, then you accept with a kiss ---> casual lovers
You don't cross the line, but you kiss in the park and get "a clean start" ---> remain acting partner.

I crossed the line. I did NOT accept with kiss, [edit: I verbally accepted to help out with fucket list] . I never got the park scene. Here is my current status:

 

[ename144]

I crossed the line. I did NOT accept with kiss. I never got the park scene. Here is my current status:
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It does seem kind of weird to leave Mina's relation as "Fuck buddies" after we nearly re-break her heart making it clear there won't be anymore fucking. I guess it's one of those minor branching details that isn't worth the time to sort out in the middle of a chapter.

 

[TD1900]

It does seem kind of weird to leave Mina's relation as "Fuck buddies" after we nearly re-break her heart making it clear there won't be anymore fucking. I guess it's one of those minor branching details that isn't worth the time to sort out in the middle of a chapter.

Honestly, I'm just prone to neglect with updating that screen. Sometimes I forget about it. In particular, what gets added to the 'history' section is pretty arbitrary, but something like that is pretty glaring. So thanks to YuNo for pointing it out.

 

[YuNobi1]

It does seem kind of weird to leave Mina's relation as "Fuck buddies" after we nearly re-break her heart making it clear there won't be anymore fucking. I guess it's one of those minor branching details that isn't worth the time to sort out in the middle of a chapter.

But I didn't. Instead of agreeing to do the fucket list by kissing her (and getting the "lovers" status) I agreed to do the fucket list by saying "I'll help you with your list" so there will be a lot more fucking.

 

[ename144]

Honestly, I'm just prone to neglect with updating that screen. Sometimes I forget about it. In particular, what gets added to the 'history' section is pretty arbitrary, but something like that is pretty glaring. So thanks to YuNo for pointing it out.

It happens, you have lots of more important thing to juggle in game.

Seriously, I really appreciate all the attention to detail you put into the scenes themselves. I can live with a missed UI update here and there!

But I didn't. Instead of agreeing to do the fucket list by kissing her (and getting the "lovers" status) I agreed to do the fucket list by saying "I'll help you with your list" so there will be a lot more fucking.

In your case, sure. I was talking about what happens if, for some inexplicable reason, you became Fuck Buddies with Mina right before you decided to commit to Hana sincerely.

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On a related note, I'd never noticed the shadows walking back and forth across the sidewalk until now. Nice touch!

 

[sunnychad]

when will the new update is going to be released

 

[Idontplay]

In a near (but unknow) future.