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As I said, if you ever really displease the PC leadership, Abel, Sophia and maybe Jacob might be the only ones capable of saving your hide
Ian with maxed bromance just sitting in the corner doing nothing in this scenario?
 

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Might be that we had a similar discussion earlier, it still makes fun to discuss!
I do not have a rosetinted view of Sophia, I am very aware of her perks, flaws and being a dangerous person (actually it can be a boon for Edwin that she is, if ever something goes south with the current leadership of PC), but you underestimate one thing. Abel will not be the CEO of Waller all that much longer, his retirement will be in the not too far future. Then Sophia will be the boss and you the husband of said boss. Two nerds in command of a medical empire, there are worse ways to end up.

Also you most probably did not get it in your playthrough, but if you and Sophia connect well, there are changes happening. Small for now, but they happen. If you keep your distance from her, these changes do not start.
I mentioned it before, a scene of Viktoria visiting Edwin, while Sophia is visiting him too would be very interesting,

I find it funny that you mention Rosi as a top option for Edwin. Rosi is one of the most manipulative persons in the game! Something even Edwin is partly aware off now. There are reasons why I consider Hana, Felicia and Sophia the LI top choices for Edwin. Among them is the fact that all three are very much "What you see, is what you get" persons. Granted, they have additional wishes, wants and traits (like Felicia being an renowned artist and is at PC to save her former school), but their general personalities are not affected by this.
Kath, Rosi or Chuck on the other hand are very manipulative, shifty and behind the curtain persons.

Rosiland as the best choice for EDWIN? Maybe for the player (with a milf fetish) but not Edwin lmao.

Aren't a good portion of her (non club) scenes reliant on you "promising" her you'll do your best for her to "win the game"? Even if I'm remembering incorrectly how many of Edwin x Rose scenes involve Edwin thinking "she's/her situation is just like my moooooommmmmmy"? Thats something he clearly struggles with even at the start of the game (literally just WATCHING porn tapes of his mother), and the best way to get over that is someone who reminds Edwin of his mom 99% of the time? If you guys mean " I would fap hardest to this scenario" then just say that. For me it would Edwin ending up with Veronica :HideThePain:

Considering that even at max score with her she gives Edwin the "if you speak while my daughter is on the phone I will cut your balls off" look... meaning right now even if Edwin is the absolute "best" he can be she still doesn't even trust him enough for her daughter to know that...... a MALE was in their house!?!?! But I'm sure a couple more weeks and she'll be willing to bring Edwin over to meet the daughter (ignore that Edwin has the possibility of still working at the club as an "end state")

I think the 3 Carnations are "best match" for various players, someone like Hana (similar struggles, similar current situation, similar values) or even Mina because of her having to "act like a person" pretty much all the time both offer actual paths of "growth" for Edwin.

Edit: To be clear I don't think Sophia is a better "match" than Rose. We don't know enough about the "real nature" of her relationships to claim one way or the other
You guys missed my sarcasm. I obviously don't think Rose is a good LI. In fact, she may be the worst romance option for Edwin. Here's what I wrote a few months back:

I feel like people here underestimate just how underhanded and vicious Rose is. She's not some beat junkie bimbo getting turned out to get her next fix, she's a mother who's trying to get her child and herself out of danger. A few weeks ago she was a typical repressed housewife in a dead marriage with a loser husband, and now her whole world's been turned upside down.

Edwin is very susceptible to Rose, due to his own mommy issues and with Rose being in the same situation Vicky was when Edwin was a boy. But I believe Rose only sees Edwin as a useful idiot out of who she can fuck favors and help. It's a shame that Rose doesn't know about Vicky's circumstances, or she would be able to manipulate Edwin much more effectively.

Much like Vicky learned to enjoy the gangbangs and humilliation once she let go of shame and inhibitions, so does Rose start to enjoy her own humilliation, and the little slave/master relationship she's fostering with Edwin, as evidenced by her lust stat. But just as Vicky let go of her porn career and returned to normal life unscathed, Rose will want to forget about the Club as soon as she cashes out, and resume her normal life. And at the end of the day Edwin is just another one of her tormentors, who's also good friends with Ian, who has extensively tested Rose out before she got the gig. I doubt Rose cares about Edwin's petty struggles that led him to the club, especially given the gravity of her own situation.

Also, do you people actually think that Rose will let her daughter anywhere near a freak like Edwin, who's morally grey at best. I just think our boy Edwin shouldn't be surprised once Rose skips state after she gets the cash. The age gap is the least of their problems.
 
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I only saw the quote in Turrets reply to ename, I didn't know you posted an opinon of her months ago...and let's be honest we've got people screaming cunnilingus is bad (for days straight) maybe someone really does think rose is best match :HideThePain:

I fully agree with your post though. Rose staying around Edwin (even if he leaves the club) is just people wanting to end with their waifu. Hell Felica could leave her husband, Veronica has nobody to leave, but rose putting Edwin before her daughter? Lol no.

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Ian with maxed bromance just sitting in the corner doing nothing in this scenario?
I have in my main playthrough a maxed bromance and I am sure Ian would be there for me, but let´s face it: Ian and Edwin are in over their heads when it comes to the PC leadership and power. If it is "just" a business falling out, August might, just might, let you two go, but Kath and Chuck - no way.
Remember what I said about Sophia? This is something you should pay heed to in real life as well. If a person as capable and dangerous as Sophia Lundgren tells you someone is scary, you should listen and react accordingly. It changes nothing if Sophia is exactly as dangerous as she seems to be or if she is a punchclock villian (something which would also make her really dangerous), I truly doubt pissing off Chuck without substantial backing would be good for your health.
 

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Ian and Edwin are in over their heads when it comes to the PC leadership and power. If it is "just" a business falling out, August might, just might, let you two go, but Kath and Chuck - no way.
I truly doubt pissing off Chuck without substantial backing would be good for your health.
Chuck is not going to fuck over family (both blood and "chosen family") because they want to leave the sex club :KEK:
He told kathleen to keep Edwin out of office politics but when edwin wants to leave "fall out of the business" he does something that impacts Edwins health?

IIRC the end states that have been mentioned are just "stay"/"leave" the club not sabotage the club and ruin chucks playground
 

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Chuck is not going to fuck over family (both blood and "chosen family") because they want to leave the sex club :KEK:
He told kathleen to keep Edwin out of office politics but when edwin wants to leave "fall out of the business" he does something that impacts Edwins health?
IIRC the end states that have been mentioned are just "stay"/"leave" the club not sabotage the club and ruin chucks playground
I have the gut feeling that the Club could develop to be like Hotel California when it comes to leaving on some decision paths.
 

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I have the gut feeling that the Club could develop to be like Hotel California when it comes to leaving on some decision paths.
I mean maybe on some of the "leave" "dead ends with story" that have been mentioned? Unless TD playing 4d chess there will be endings where you get out from the club and presumably have some semblance of a "good ending".

I think the "drama" of wanting to leave the club is going to be more focused on the Carnations than it being difficult for Edwin to leave. Chuck isn't going to "injure" him because he wants to leave the club, chucks knows it would be good (both connections and release) for Edwin to be at the club but he's not going to off the kid to keep his secret. August is on the fence but if Hana takes over (and decides to stay) I don't see why she would stop Edwin (if he wants to leave), Kathleen is the obvious sticking point she is "evil" and has a personal interest in Edwin. Chuck and August/hana would outvote her though and if Chuck caught Karhleen doing something to Edwin or Victoria IRL he would do something "not good to her health" :HideThePain:
 
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I mean maybe on some of the "leave" "dead ends with story" that have been mentioned? Unless TD playing 4d chess there will be endings where you get out from the club and presumably have some semblance of a "good ending".
I agree that we will get some good, happy endings for both "staying" and "leaving" the Club scenarios, but I am also sure TD will create some endings which will be harrowing.
And in some of the endings Chuck will certainly play a less than noble role. That he has a very dark side has Chekov´s guned several times before. From Abel, Sophia and Daria.
 

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Something even Edwin is partly aware off now. There are reasons why I consider Hana, Felicia and Sophia the LI top choices for Edwin.
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Frankly it's not really fair, since those 3 are not only the 3 most authentic and interesting, they're the 3 most physically attractive.

Sorry musclehead and mommy, the world aint fair.
 
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I only saw the quote in Turrets reply to ename, I didn't know you posted an opinon of her months ago...and let's be honest we've got people screaming cunnilingus is bad (for days straight) maybe someone really does think rose is best match :HideThePain:

I fully agree with your post though. Rose staying around Edwin (even if he leaves the club) is just people wanting to end with their waifu. Hell Felica could leave her husband, Veronica has nobody to leave, but rose putting Edwin before her daughter? Lol no.

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I enjoy rose the most. Mostly for depravity reasons, but also because she's the only female in the game who at least tries to act like one. In the traditional sense. She seems to try to be a good mother and from what she tells she also seemed to be a good wife. The rest is a rich bitch karen, a feminist wannabe tough gurl, a man, and a manipulating cheater who's biggest dream in life is to have sex in different ways. Of course it's like having to choose between the devil and the deep blue sea, but I don't mind as I'm here for the dark side of the game.

Oyakodon ending for rose would be funny.
 

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Frankly it's not really fair, since those 3 are not only the 3 most authentic and interesting, they're the 3 most physically attractive.

Sorry musclehead and mommy, the world aint fair.
How is Sophia the most authentic? One person saying we know "the real nature" of her relationships and she is baaaaaaaaad. Then another saying she's authentic (which implies we know the real nature)? So which is it? And how did I miss an infodump that revealed her reasons and intentions while still convincing some she was bad and some not?
 
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Frankly it's not really fair, since those 3 are not only the 3 most authentic and interesting, they're the 3 most physically attractive.

Sorry musclehead and mommy, the world aint fair.
Well, Rosi, Mina, Dalia, Celine or Andrea (even Kath) are also attractive females, but I agree with you that Hana, Felicia and Sophia are the most attractive, authentic and interesting women characters in PC. :)
 

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What does it mean to act like a female? You're acting like a bitch, yet I'm 99.9% sure that you're a biological male. Curious :unsure:

Like I wrote: in the traditional sense. Gentle, caring, demure, etc.

I believe I stayed rather polite. Having, keeping and expressing an unpopular opinion is not acting like a bitch. The whole topic of cunilingus was started by TD1900 by the way.

Feel free to go down the way of insults, you will have a hard time to find something that sticks.

But I would prefer to just talk normally, even if there are radically different views on things. After all, nobody needs more negativity in his life.
 
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Frankly it's not really fair, since those 3 are not only the 3 most authentic and interesting, they're the 3 most physically attractive.

Sorry musclehead and mommy, the world aint fair.
Veronica is the most honest person there, and not only can she be a bro for the MC, you don’t have to say no homo when banging to keep it from being gay.
 

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How is Sophia the most authentic? One person saying we know "the real nature" of her relationships and she is baaaaaaaaad. Then another saying she's authentic (which implies we know the real nature)? So which is it? And how did I miss an infodump that revealed her reasons and intentions while still convincing some she was bad and some not?
I think you take the authentic a bit too literally here, but yes, Sophia is among the most authentic persons in PC. She does not pretend to be something she is not. It is pretty obvious she is an amoral, eccentric, genius nerd and she does not act or hide it. Even and especially Kath, who pretends to be nice most of the time, is unnerved by Sophia´s disposition. Doc Lundgren does not give a flying fuck how she comes across.
 
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I think you take the authentic a bit too literally here, but yes, Sophia is among the most authentic persons in PC. She does not pretend to be something she is not. It is pretty obvious she is an amoral, eccentric, genius nerd and she does not act or hide it. Even and especially Kath, who pretends to be nice most of the time, is unnerved by Sophia´s disposition. Doc Lundgren does not give a flying fuck how she comes across.
But we don't know enough about her character to say that this is her real personality do we? Like we don't know her goals? Can you say with absolute certainty that this is her "real" self? Obviously i cant but i try to refer to her as mostly unknown/a wild card (with slight leanings towards her being "bad). Hell we don't know even know what if anything Abel is truly offering her for all this just that fact could drastically change things couldn't it?
 

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But we don't know enough about her character to say that this is her real personality do we? Like we don't know her goals? Can you say with absolute certainty that this is her "real" self? Obviously i cant but i try to refer to her as mostly unknown/a wild card (with slight leanings towards her being "bad). Hell we don't know even know what if anything Abel is truly offering her for all this just that fact could drastically change things couldn't it?
Nobody but yourself (and sometimes not even you) can say with absolute certainty what your real self is. With others we have to go with observations and consistency. It is really tough to impossible to pretend to be something you are not for a longer time without slipping up. So far Sophia´s behavior is consistent with what we know and learned about her.
 

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. It is really tough to impossible to pretend to be something you are not for a longer time without slipping up. So far Sophia´s behavior is consistent with what we know and learned about her.
Edwin has been around her (the only times we really see her) for like a few hours tops spread across like 4 times? The only time we see her and Abel outside the club (home break in) they are dealing directly with the club.

We've never seen her truly outside the club, without abel or the clubs influence, nor in a situation where she wasn't "in control" ignoring her being passed out(?) On the table but we can't really glean much more nformation from that other than what TD has said. I'm just saying it could go either way you are getting esoteric and saying that she "has to be the way she currently seems" :HideThePain:

so how about that Alice threesome with Ian, it's all I want from the game :KEK:

Max bromance = balls touch
 
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