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theres ton of way to change "scenes" without change renders the biggest being dialogue changes, which happen alot in the early game but has been slowing down..
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If there's anything this game has, it's dialogue changes.
True, but why I mention the devs attention to detail. You have 2 people talk on a couch, plenty of devs use the same 2 images of each character with an open mouth and reuse it to high hell. PC doesn't do that.
Say you're not into boobs and you wanna skip the boob fondling. You can do that too. It saves images, but you need branching dialogue that fits.
Almost no other game does this. Mention some small event that happened way back like pissing on Vero. PC does this and the devs hafta now remember that you aren't a breast fiend just cuz you skipped it to keep the narrative concise.
Say you're not into boobs and you wanna skip the boob fondling. You can do that too. It saves images, but you need branching dialogue that fits.
Almost no other game does this. Mention some small event that happened way back like pissing on Vero. PC does this and the devs hafta now remember that you aren't a breast fiend just cuz you skipped it to keep the narrative concise.
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actually quite few games do that... but PC is one that stands out well in the use of it.
I really appreciate your quick response...but it also confirms my biggest fear.Not every day of the in-game calendar is made equal. In theory, the next update is going to be two days, and we're hoping will be done in less time than this update. Time will tell how that bears out, but it is also an inside joke between GIL and I that we'll be finished in 2030 - in a haha, "oh god please no" way. So hey, maybe you're not too far off the mark.
We do both want to make another game after this, but I look at it this way: if this is, for whatever reason, the one VN I get to work on in my life, no corners shall be cut and the ending will not be rushed. I don't mean that in a perfectionist sort of way, because we make compromises all the time, but because the enjoyment of our day-to-day work is tied to aspects that simply take time. Like yeah, GIL could reuse the same handful of images for every conversation and cut the image count down by a third, but why even play ball at that point? GIL enjoys crafting life-like sequences, and so that's what he does. For us, enjoying the process is just as essential as being satisfied with the end result.
Copium.
In short: "quality takes time" and yeah, yours is really top notch!
So we'll see us at 2030, when you'd be finished and until then whishing you both the best!
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As this is talk about me: I honestly think this is commendable. Especially for someone who is afaik a fan of starless. It's wise not to spread too much darkness regardless if one's own desires may be into it or if others would like to see it. After all, the stuff one puts out there has an effect on people and on oneself.
Not sure if this sounds like sarcasm, it's not.
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I already said I understand it would be more work. This is supposed to be a VN with variations. Not a linear KN where every action is already decided for the reader. You say that it would be a large amount of work to give options but even for the Mina rejection as it is now cuts a significant amount of content that they "worked on" in the end. Then you have the last scene with Mina and Falish where you can technically intervene or not but it is back on the rails right after that you have zero say in whether you want to aggressively finger there poopers out of the blue or not. All I'm saying is as soon as they start the player is basically ignored so "Edwin" can be himself. There is nothing inherently wrong with an opinionated MC but I think they have taken it too far in some parts.
You can look at the first night of the competition as an example. That has three(?) different endings with animations with every one. It may be the same animation with a model swap put it is still a lot of extra work because you have a choice of how you want to be treated. It effects the ending but even that one is pretty rigid. I'm not trying to say they don't do a good amount of work but it takes a significantly shorter time to make images and animations in HS compared to something like Daz.
You also have the traits that effect the outcome of several scenes. If someone is making an actual VN then they most likely go into this with the mind set that they will have to make several versions of a scene depending one the choices made. Not really part of the topic but social chameleon is single handedly the most used trait in the game. Every other one is about useless,
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I'm still catching up on all the updates, but I'll toss my two meta cents in - end of the day, this game is still a commercial product. If Coppola can re-cut his films to be more marketable, I think we can excuse TD and GIL for not emulating A Serbian Film.
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Uh, so what I'm getting from this is, you do want to choose positions? But sort of.
The thing is, not interrupting the girl fun not only skips the fingering, but also makes Edwin less aggressive during the scene. I get that you probably mean you want some granularity between Edwin letting his id take over and sitting in the cuck chair, which I guess... fair enough. I appreciate the feedback. I tend to see the reader as the devil on Edwin's shoulder, rather than a vehicle for the player, which has its ups and downs.
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That's fair. All I'm saying is for me personally there is a severe lack of choice in the sexual side of things. Like you say, Edwin's id just takes over and the player on his shoulder just has to sit back and watch what he does. Just feels forced I guess.
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Wake me up when Hana is the main focus of the update
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Hey everyone...I just finished the latest update and all I can say is WOW...I have a question? I chose to have relationships with other women even though I promised Hana that I wouldn't when we became a couple...is this going to come back to me and bite MC in the ass? I really don't want to lose Hana but I can't help myself lol. any help would be great thanks
I mean, you had a choice to be her BF or her fuckbuddy for a reason... so yes, it will probably have consequences.
Of course it will. Just maintain a second save, or use the cheat mod to manipulate your flags/stats so you can get the best outcomes for everyone.
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Thanks for your help...so...I am using cheat mod to manipulate my points...does that help if Hana catches me with other women? Sorry...I'm just trying to understand the best outcome. Thanks
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No one can tell you how anything will actually turn out. The cheating points you accumulate are more of a contextual thing to establish a pattern of behavior, so if you cheat on Hana enough, Edwin will stop thinking "but, but... Hana!" every time the opportunity to get his dick wet comes up.
I will say this: cheating on Hana will be a minefield. Not everything you do is going to get back to her, y'know? Sooooomething might though. Who knows.
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Well i think its clear the thing with Mina will get back to her now that their hanging out LmaoNot everything you do is going to get back to her, y'know? Sooooomething might though. Who knows.
Honestly i was really disspointed we didn't have the option to tell her about Mina when we have the option to date her, like we had the option to tell Mina about Hana but not the other way around and that sucked Lol
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thanks for everyone's input...damnit...I really like Mina as well...I guess I'll have to go back and make a save when I had the option to tell Mina so I don't lose Hana...it's tough to make decisions when it comes to having sex hahaha...thanks again everyone
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I completely agree. Hana is the one who wants transparency but it's Mina that ends up getting it if you tell her about Hana. There is no reason you couldn't tell her about the previous deal unless it so the devs can use it for a bomb of sorts.