VN Ren'Py Completed Pandora's Box [v1.0] [Void Star]

[MattDreamisBack]

I feel like this game hasn't the fandom it deserves, it's VERY well done, and the girl protagonist is a blast (I admit I have a soft spot for Female Protagonist games)

Only issue is the update rate, but I guess can't be avoided if not with more Patreons so do like me: become a Patreon of this man!

 

[Dependable_223]

seems like some ppl here need [ntr - avoidable] and [ntr - unavoidable] tag
but in most cases, DO NOT EVER assume avoidable ntr when the game comes with ntr tag unless officially stated by the dev
If you hate unavoidable ntr you should just skip anything with ntr tag to be safe

while this game do claims to have two routes, it says "The power is in your hands as two alternative paths follow. Corruption for the girlfriend and Submission for the boyfriend." So its corruption for the female and submission for the male, not ntr and non ntr route.

Agreed, but how many games first started with avoidable ntr and later shifted the story to unavoidable causing this unrest to begin with ? i do agree that if you see ntr it should be taken into account but i also look for games with no ntr tag and all i get is game with ntr tag so that is why this need to fixed. some games started with no ntr at all and later just added this tag in without users knowing it was going to be added at all.

 

[Ursus4321]

GoodGirlGoneBad is a very good example of game well done. You can decided if your path is pure, cheating, convert the girl in a total slut or only have sex with the people that you decide. Probable at the end she finished having sex with a lot of people but YOU decided all time: That´s the important

 

[Uncensored Loli]

It was mostly avoidable until this update. So if your not into it, don't play it..

It was avoidable because there was nothing to avoid till this update. Problem is this update has zero choices and early choices don't even matter. A much better way is a choice of if both, one, or neither drink. There would be different outcomes and choice would matter. Even if NTR is unavoidable there should be choices. How about if the GF can choose to stay with the landlord after the shower or the landlord ask the GF for help and so she has no sex with ex but someone else (doesn't have to be landlord of course).

 

[myuhinny]

Was nice till it went straight up rigged forced shit. Another for the burn pile. No real reason to have corruption or submission points at all in a rigged forced game where nothing matters anyway.

 

[deluges]

It was avoidable because there was nothing to avoid till this update. Problem is this update has zero choices and early choices don't even matter. A much better way is a choice of if both, one, or neither drink. There would be different outcomes and choice would matter. Even if NTR is unavoidable there should be choices. How about if the GF can choose to stay with the landlord after the shower or the landlord ask the GF for help and so she has no sex with ex but someone else (doesn't have to be landlord of course).

I went onto the Harem Hotel thread and asked if the harem content was avoidable... only the dev found it amusing.

 

[radical686]

You need to add rape to the tags. If she struggles not to have sex with a character and he forces her anyway . . . especially since there was no invitation to sex on her part, that's rape.

 

[Look-see]

aaaaaand thats the end of this game for me. had little hope knowing devs taste but was under the impression if you stayed loyal you would avoid NTR, that was a my bad. instead you get female protag rape scene. choices dont matter and pretty much made me lose all interest in this game. i often struggled whether or not to patron since NTR tag alone isnt enough to push me away if it can be avoided but this update decided i wont. that being said i wish dev good luck with game.

 

[deluges]

aaaaaand thats the end of this game for me. had little hope knowing devs taste but was under the impression if you stayed loyal you would avoid NTR, that was a my bad. instead you get female protag rape scene. choices dont matter and pretty much made me lose all interest in this game. i often struggled whether or not to patron since NTR tag alone isnt enough to push me away if it can be avoided but this update decided i wont. that being said i wish dev good luck with game.

Cool, bruh.

 

[baneini]

Cool, bruh.

What, you're not thrilled to read about these important would be patrons dropping the game for tagged content that is exactly the same as the devs other game?

Also considering how ubiquitous rape is in porn games I wonder where do the anti-rape folks even come from or why they think it's worth their time to complain about something that's universally popular and expected. It's not even rape which is the point of the scene, yet they feel welcome to shit up the thread anyway with their demands for inaccurate tagging.

 

[Ursus4321]

What, you're not thrilled to read about these important would be patrons dropping the game for tagged content that is exactly the same as the devs other game?

Also considering how ubiquitous rape is in porn games I wonder where do the anti-rape folks even come from or why they think it's worth their time to complain about something that's universally popular and expected. It's not even rape which is the point of the scene, yet they feel welcome to shit up the thread anyway with their demands for inaccurate tagging.

The majority of the complaint is not because it is mislabeled, it is because there are no options. The game automatically chooses the path regardless of your decisions

 

[Lol00000]

Should've been choices to avoid the bad ways,like in the beggining the boyfriend could've skipped the poker or refused to cheat,and why everything leads to the girlfriend to be a slut?

 

[sdibolcrif]

Really, Don't do it, get away from me, btw, you better wear a condom... Uhhh, Ahhh, Ohh... Just don't cum inside me or I'll kill you... Not too loud cause my boyfriend is just in the next room...

I know you're pissed off about this game going south as am I, I figured being able to play both sides I could control the narrative but apparently this is a forced NTR game and the focus is cheating, not rape. There's no Jello Tree here...

As much as I love F95 it's really goddamn disturbing to see rape apologia coming from a moderator of all people.

 

[ChocolateDouchebag]

As much as I love F95 it's really goddamn disturbing to see rape apologia coming from a moderator of all people.

In fact he is not even complaining about the rape scene that much. He's just one of the many people that found the time appropriate to fuss about the ntr content. I mean I get why people are disturbed from the rape scene but the dev is not obliged to make a non ntr route for those who don't like that... There are plenty games out there for a harem, all in one MC domination (get all the girls pregnant with just one look type of game). The most hilarious part is that most of the people are not even fund of the MC's clueless acting so I can't find a reason for them to deliberately just go with the non ntr root. They are almost all here for just the girls sex scenes. I can't really comprehend why they are hating so much but when there is crowd people always tend to massificate to the most common opinion. About the"rape scene" that sure was out of the blue, from an objective perspective it's widely common for games and not to be absolute... but anyone from common sense would agree that is one of the most popular tags to be expected given the circumstances since the girl very frequently gets corrupted (as the tag above). Sure it wasn't appreciated to include this without a warning but people here are overexaggerating like it's the end of the world. It's just a game.

 

[sdibolcrif]

In fact he is not even complaining about the rape scene that much. He's just one of the many people that found the time appropriate to fuss about the ntr content. I mean I get why people are disturbed from the rape scene but the dev is not obliged to make a non ntr route for those who don't like that... There are plenty games out there for a harem, all in one MC domination (get all the girls pregnant with just one look type of game). The most hilarious part is that most of the people are not even fund of the MC's clueless acting so I can't find a reason for them to deliberately just go with the non ntr root. They are almost all here for just the girls sex scenes. I can't really comprehend why they are hating so much but when there is crowd people always tend to massificate to the most common opinion. About the"rape scene" that sure was out of the blue, from an objective perspective it's widely common for games and not to be absolute... but anyone from common sense would agree that is one of the most popular tags to be expected given the circumstances since the girl very frequently gets corrupted (as the tag above). Sure it wasn't appreciated to include this without a warning but people here are overexaggerating like it's the end of the world. It's just a game.

Yeah that's fine and all but the point of this particular discussion is that the thread needs a "rape" tag.

Given the rather limited tag options here (compared to a site like VNDB anyway), there is a very significant distinction between "ntr" and "ntr+rape" - and going by the past couple pages, it's pretty clear that a lot of folks were perfectly okay with (for me, even totally into) the former, but entirely turned off by the latter.

And a moderator deciding that the definition of "rape" depends on what gets his willy up isn't helping things.

 

[radical686]

Yeah that's fine and all but the point of this particular discussion is that the thread needs a "rape" tag.

Given the rather limited tag options here (compared to a site like VNDB anyway), there is a very significant distinction between "ntr" and "ntr+rape" - and going by the past couple pages, it's pretty clear that a lot of folks were perfectly okay with (for me, even totally into) the former, but entirely turned off by the latter.

And a moderator deciding that the definition of "rape" depends on what gets his willy up isn't helping things.

Case in point. I was onboard with the game until I ran into the rape scene. I immediately exited the game and deleted it. I was maybe expecting the guy to use the picture of her boyfriend with the prostitute to talk her into having sex with him, but essentially roofying both her and her boyfriend so that he could then rape her?? Is that the character's MO with all his conquests?

I always pay attention to rape tags, b/c I tend to dislike, and thus avoid, the content.

 

[ltpika]

I always pay attention to rape tags, b/c I tend to dislike, and thus avoid, the content.

Tag system is fucking broken, almost everything labelled rape has no actual rape in it. A lot of people pass on games because there are oversensitive people who cry rape if the MC embellished a bit about himself on a date, since it's deception. Great games get passed over.

 

[TiffanyMonroe]

What, you're not thrilled to read about these important would be patrons dropping the game for tagged content that is exactly the same as the devs other game?

Also considering how ubiquitous rape is in porn games I wonder where do the anti-rape folks even come from or why they think it's worth their time to complain about something that's universally popular and expected. It's not even rape which is the point of the scene, yet they feel welcome to shit up the thread anyway with their demands for inaccurate tagging.

I wonder how long until your comment is not deleted for flaming. lol

Yeah that's fine and all but the point of this particular discussion is that the thread needs a "rape" tag.

Given the rather limited tag options here (compared to a site like VNDB anyway), there is a very significant distinction between "ntr" and "ntr+rape" - and going by the past couple pages, it's pretty clear that a lot of folks were perfectly okay with (for me, even totally into) the former, but entirely turned off by the latter.

And a moderator deciding that the definition of "rape" depends on what gets his willy up isn't helping things.

Statistics say 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang-rape.

 

[Ataly]

It could be a very good game ONLY WHEN developer will add... choices to the game xD Really, there are only few in this game, and even if you have a choice - it doesn't really have a big impact on the story. It's more like a comic book than a game...

Renders are very good quality though, so i still got hope that dev will fix this game and add some routes ;p

 

[Alfius]

I wonder how long until your comment is not deleted for flaming. lol

Statistics say 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang-rape.

I can actually understand rape fantasies, and although not my thing, I can see that some players might enjoy it.
I might even get some perverse pleasure finding it in a game.

The thing that caught me with this game, is it was so unexpected. To be honest, despite her rebellious looks, the GF was actually quite sweet and cute. So the rape was a bit left field for me. I think a lot of players were upset that there was no forewarning and it was also not in the game tags.

I'm still going to play the game, I like the GF quite a bit, but will see how it goes.