VN Ren'Py Completed Pandora's Box [v1.0] [Void Star]

[Deleted member 21439]

Is the NTR optional?

 

[Computergod67]

Is the NTR optional?

Nope

 

[Deleted member 21439]

Try reading every comment since the last update.

Way easier to just ask innit?

 

[DanThaMan]

Way easier to just ask innit?

Its actually easier to just read, lol.

 

[Fear375]

Frankly speaking, I have not played this game yet, but considering that it was created by the author Forgotten Paradise and he pays a lot of time to it, I am sure that it is not in vain and the game is interesting at least. Thank you!

 

[deluges]

You shouldn't be forced to open up pandora's box.

At the same time, calling your game that should give you hint that it's not going to be sunshine and rainbows.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Tag system is fucking broken, almost everything labelled rape has no actual rape in it. A lot of people pass on games because there are oversensitive people who cry rape if the MC embellished a bit about himself on a date, since it's deception. Great games get passed over.

This one however is quite clearly rape. If the dev doesn't want people to avoid his game because they don't like rape, he shouldn't have added it.

 

[Sayora]

The latest update is just fucked up.
MС who gives an unfamiliar person an intimate photo of his girlfriend, what would he jerk off .... this is the last straw.
facepalm (

 

[ltpika]

This one however is quite clearly rape. If the dev doesn't want people to avoid his game because they don't like rape, he shouldn't have added it.

That's not in dispute. It's just ridiculous this game does NOT get the tag, but vanilla games are labelled rape. It's a perfect illustration of how it's hard to find things here because things aren't tagged for content/fetish clarity. I want it tagged because I look for this kind of stuff but I'd never find it. Both sides have everything to gain from accurate tags.

 

[Fruble]

whoa holy shit, dude went from Mr.Try'n-steal-your-girl to just straight up rape real quick, even had a villain laugh

 

[muttdoggy]

Added rape tag.

Here's the thing. NTR here is defined as being done by the romantic partner to cause jealousy in the MC. In this instance, even after her ex intentionally gets them both drunk on the non-ntr route, she tells him "no" and he forces himself on her. That is rape. To put it plainly, he incapacitated her with alcohol then forced himself on her after she told him she wasn't interested. In America, you get sent to prison for 20 years for doing what her ex did. It's SUPER ILLEGAL. She isn't trying to cheat on her boyfriend or make him jealous. She was raped, plain and simple. And being raped does not equal NTR.

Reminder.. pay attention to the dialogue.. she hints that she might get taken advantage of, remarks on all the alcohol being served, says she's getting under the influence, and on the non-ntr route, she clearly tells him to back off. That is non-consensual. She did not consent even after someone was intentionally getting her drunk.

So I consider it avoidable NTR because she was raped in the non-ntr route. To me, rape is not NTR.


My take on this...
The MC's an absolute moron for hearing what she said then agreeing to drink.. a blithering idiot, in my opinion. I would have thrown the ex's ass out when she made the remark she did about being taken advantage of. Remember the first episode where she talked about her ex and what he did? Or even the text exchange between the two men? Flash forward to now, hearing her say what she said?? Oh hell no. I would have told him "I see what you're doing. GTFO. NOW." I think she was trying to warn him to watch her ex in case anything happened but wanted and hoped to still have a good night where everybody could heal the past but that's not how it turned out. The moronic MC trusts her ex, takes his girlfriend's comment as a joke, and then gets drunk. He made the choice to get drunk and put her in danger. His poor gf paid the price for his stupidity. He failed in the most basic of responsibilities and now his girlfriend has to pay the price because she just got raped. Again.. the mc is the second worst of the worms. The ex is the worst of the worms.

Remember the picture of the blowjob?? I bet this is how it could turn out- The ex is planning on using it to get the girlfriend to get very angry and break up with the MC. He'll say "I was super drunk, still in love with you and he knew. But he didn't care about you. See this text? That text? Now see this picture? He got a blowjob from my now ex-girlfriend". Then after he gets the ex-girlfriend back, he will then use the same image and the texts to force the MC to stay away from her.

 

[Look-see]

I can actually understand rape fantasies, and although not my thing, I can see that some players might enjoy it.
I might even get some perverse pleasure finding it in a game.

The thing that caught me with this game, is it was so unexpected. To be honest, despite her rebellious looks, the GF was actually quite sweet and cute. So the rape was a bit left field for me. I think a lot of players were upset that there was no forewarning and it was also not in the game tags.

I'm still going to play the game, I like the GF quite a bit, but will see how it goes.

i also like the gf's look but this update pretty much tells you from now on anyone who has their eyes on the girl is gonna get her. so at the very least the fat boss is gonna get her. i think the only realy choice you have is whether she's a slut/corrupt about it or not. still i can appreciate the quality of the renders.

 

[KyoriKusagami]

Added rape tag.

Here's the thing. NTR here is defined as being done by the romantic partner to cause jealousy in the MC. In this instance, even after her ex intentionally gets them both drunk on the non-ntr route, she tells him "no" and he forces himself on her. That is rape. To put it plainly, he incapacitated her with alcohol then forced himself on her after she told him she wasn't interested. In America, you get sent to prison for 20 years for doing what her ex did. It's SUPER ILLEGAL. She isn't trying to cheat on her boyfriend or make him jealous. She was raped, plain and simple. And being raped does not equal NTR.

Reminder.. pay attention to the dialogue.. she hints that she might get taken advantage of, remarks on all the alcohol being served, says she's getting under the influence, and on the non-ntr route, she clearly tells him to back off. That is non-consensual. She did not consent even after someone was intentionally getting her drunk.

So I consider it avoidable NTR because she was raped in the non-ntr route. To me, rape is not NTR.


My take on this...
The MC's an absolute moron for hearing what she said then agreeing to drink.. a blithering idiot, in my opinion. I would have thrown the ex's ass out when she made the remark she did about being taken advantage of. Remember the first episode where she talked about her ex and what he did? Or even the text exchange between the two men? Flash forward to now, hearing her say what she said?? Oh hell no. I would have told him "I see what you're doing. GTFO. NOW." I think she was trying to warn him to watch her ex in case anything happened but wanted and hoped to still have a good night where everybody could heal the past but that's not how it turned out. The moronic MC trusts her ex, takes his girlfriend's comment as a joke, and then gets drunk. He made the choice to get drunk and put her in danger. His poor gf paid the price for his stupidity. He failed in the most basic of responsibilities and now his girlfriend has to pay the price because she just got raped. Again.. the mc is the second worst of the worms. The ex is the worst of the worms.

Remember the picture of the blowjob?? I bet this is how it could turn out- The ex is planning on using it to get the girlfriend to get very angry and break up with the MC. He'll say "I was super drunk, still in love with you and he knew. But he didn't care about you. See this text? That text? Now see this picture? He got a blowjob from my now ex-girlfriend". Then after he gets the ex-girlfriend back, he will then use the same image and the texts to force the MC to stay away from her.

@muttdoggy, I think the answer to some doubt about the last sex scene will be in the 0.5 update and pay attention at the dialogues and actions from MC's girlfriend.

 

[Claudio83]

A few panthyhose but no stockings fot the moment… it's a pity! I hope in many cuckold/swinging scenes in the future updates… led by MC's girlfriend!

 

[Print0o]

has the trojan been dealt with?

 

[deluges]

I'm not sure anyone was going into it expecting it to be sunshine and rainbows. I think most people were expecting that they would have more control over their actions, and the choices made would actually matter.

It seems that most people were expecting that they would have control over whether the box is open. It can be opened either through actions of the boyfriend, the girlfriend, both, or neither. Instead the choice is taken away from them.

People were likely expecting that choices would lead to consequences. Instead we have choices that will define the characters resulting personalities. We cannot control that the box was opened. We simply decide whether the guy will become submissive about it all, and if the girl will become a corrupted cumslut. This is how it looks like it will go, but it's obviously too early to know anything in that regards.

At least for now it looks to be just another dime-a-dozen NTR fuckfest.

Yeah, I think the gambling scene kind of set the table as far as how as the game was going to go. You couldn't choose not to do it, so regardless of whether you helped Bill out, the mc was fucked.

 

[Dependable_223]

Added rape tag.

Here's the thing. NTR here is defined as being done by the romantic partner to cause jealousy in the MC. In this instance, even after her ex intentionally gets them both drunk on the non-ntr route, she tells him "no" and he forces himself on her. That is rape. To put it plainly, he incapacitated her with alcohol then forced himself on her after she told him she wasn't interested. In America, you get sent to prison for 20 years for doing what her ex did. It's SUPER ILLEGAL. She isn't trying to cheat on her boyfriend or make him jealous. She was raped, plain and simple. And being raped does not equal NTR.

Reminder.. pay attention to the dialogue.. she hints that she might get taken advantage of, remarks on all the alcohol being served, says she's getting under the influence, and on the non-ntr route, she clearly tells him to back off. That is non-consensual. She did not consent even after someone was intentionally getting her drunk.

So I consider it avoidable NTR because she was raped in the non-ntr route. To me, rape is not NTR.


My take on this...
The MC's an absolute moron for hearing what she said then agreeing to drink.. a blithering idiot, in my opinion. I would have thrown the ex's ass out when she made the remark she did about being taken advantage of. Remember the first episode where she talked about her ex and what he did? Or even the text exchange between the two men? Flash forward to now, hearing her say what she said?? Oh hell no. I would have told him "I see what you're doing. GTFO. NOW." I think she was trying to warn him to watch her ex in case anything happened but wanted and hoped to still have a good night where everybody could heal the past but that's not how it turned out. The moronic MC trusts her ex, takes his girlfriend's comment as a joke, and then gets drunk. He made the choice to get drunk and put her in danger. His poor gf paid the price for his stupidity. He failed in the most basic of responsibilities and now his girlfriend has to pay the price because she just got raped. Again.. the mc is the second worst of the worms. The ex is the worst of the worms.

Remember the picture of the blowjob?? I bet this is how it could turn out- The ex is planning on using it to get the girlfriend to get very angry and break up with the MC. He'll say "I was super drunk, still in love with you and he knew. But he didn't care about you. See this text? That text? Now see this picture? He got a blowjob from my now ex-girlfriend". Then after he gets the ex-girlfriend back, he will then use the same image and the texts to force the MC to stay away from her.

Agreed

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The mc in this game is just total loser. who dont deserve the girfirend. he needs to lose it all.

 

[radical686]

Added rape tag.
My take on this...
The MC's an absolute moron for hearing what she said then agreeing to drink.. a blithering idiot, in my opinion. I would have thrown the ex's ass out when she made the remark she did about being taken advantage of. Remember the first episode where she talked about her ex and what he did? Or even the text exchange between the two men? Flash forward to now, hearing her say what she said?? Oh hell no. I would have told him "I see what you're doing. GTFO. NOW." I think she was trying to warn him to watch her ex in case anything happened but wanted and hoped to still have a good night where everybody could heal the past but that's not how it turned out. The moronic MC trusts her ex, takes his girlfriend's comment as a joke, and then gets drunk. He made the choice to get drunk and put her in danger. His poor gf paid the price for his stupidity. He failed in the most basic of responsibilities and now his girlfriend has to pay the price because she just got raped. Again.. the mc is the second worst of the worms. The ex is the worst of the worms.

Possible bug here. When I played through it was sorta on the non-NTR path. I didn't get the choice to drink or not drink. I was actually flummoxed that the scene escalated so quickly because in my playthrough there was no transition to the drinking part. I didn't even know the ex was over for dinner/drinks/whatever. It was like the scene jumped into the middle of them drinking. I assumed he had roofied them both but wasn't sure since I didn't see the transition scene. I didn't even know what happened. Some movies jump into the middle of dinner scene where dinner was discussed previously and then they jump right into the middle of it, so I assumed that was what happened, then suddenly, BAM, rape scene.

 

[LP83]

Spoiler: Can't really wait for the old man to have a piece of her!!

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Spoiler: So HOT!

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Spoiler: When someone doesn't get over their Ex

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[RedPillBlues]

@muttdoggy, I think the answer to some doubt about the last sex scene will be in the 0.5 update and pay attention at the dialogues and actions from MC's girlfriend.

Something tells me a lot of people won't be playing 0.5.