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there were any doubt about it?XDwell both the patreon page and Discord server are down, so guess we can finally announce that this game is dead
there were any doubt about it?XDwell both the patreon page and Discord server are down, so guess we can finally announce that this game is dead
This game was dead long before Minxy stopped posting.well both the patreon page and Discord server are down, so guess we can finally announce that this game is dead
she probably tried to milk something out of itThis game was dead long before Minxy stopped posting.
She gave up after a couple of updates. The last update was a joke and we'd heard the "i'm sorry, i'll try harder" shit too many times. Minxy checked out, this was barely on life support that was kept alive and suffering in agony by a few fans that refused to switch off the machine.
You gotta make a decent amount of money to milk it. People are quick to put that label on anyone without thinking about how much money it takes to make that worth any effort. Most likely Minxy didn't realize just how much work goes into making a game over a long development process or simply wrote herself into a hole. Instead of dealing with the backlash of angry people, she just stopped altogether. More or less it wasn't an intentional milking so much as someone not bothering to turn the faucet off.she probably tried to milk something out of it
not mentioning how her "updates" were screenshots of the same three pictures but more or less zoomed
There are pages on patreon where you pay per item rather than a monthly basis. Mind you, the ones I am thinking of are not for games.You gotta make a decent amount of money to milk it. People are quick to put that label on anyone without thinking about how much money it takes to make that worth any effort. Most likely Minxy didn't realize just how much work goes into making a game over a long development process or simply wrote herself into a hole. Instead of dealing with the backlash of angry people, she just stopped altogether. More or less it wasn't an intentional milking so much as someone not bothering to turn the faucet off.
Patreon really should make it easier to creators to set up something like a pay per update setup. They wont ofc because it hurts their revenue, but it would be the most fair way of doing things.
Honestly? all i can tell you, is already written in previous pages...like how she intentionally continued to milk money, despite people sending her even tutorials about how she can stop the monthly check(or you know, that automatic monthly thing that takes money from your bank account just to send them to her) and how she keep acting like "no, you guys never told me about how to do it"You gotta make a decent amount of money to milk it. People are quick to put that label on anyone without thinking about how much money it takes to make that worth any effort. Most likely Minxy didn't realize just how much work goes into making a game over a long development process or simply wrote herself into a hole. Instead of dealing with the backlash of angry people, she just stopped altogether. More or less it wasn't an intentional milking so much as someone not bothering to turn the faucet off.
Patreon really should make it easier to creators to set up something like a pay per update setup. They wont ofc because it hurts their revenue, but it would be the most fair way of doing things.
man it sucks seeing games that have a lot of potential going to waste by Developers that either don't care or just doing it for the moneyHonestly? all i can tell you, is already written in previous pages...like how she intentionally continued to milk money, despite people sending her even tutorials about how she can stop the monthly check(or you know, that automatic monthly thing that takes money from your bank account just to send them to her) and how she keep acting like "no, you guys never told me about how to do it"
Her game started pretty popular...but she ruined it by not writing a real story, and adding siblings at random...making the basic plot even weirder and nonsensical and i'm talking about 3 in-game days! NOT A MONTH, she took 4 years to give us 3 in-game days of content...that you can play in 2 hours(if you go slow)
and i forgot to mention(i was about to edit my previous post, but you replied like 2 seconds before i could do that)man it's always sucks seeing games that have a lot of potential going to waste by Developers that either don't care or just doing it for the money
shadowr19 that's pretty much what happened...i managed to be critical while still encouraging her as much as i could, i used the "harsh but fair" approach, until the updates started to make little sense and she began to disappear for like 2 months and 29 days, and on the 30th day she came back to post one of those excuses, or claim that she was actually working hard, even sharing screenshots...which we discovered were the same pictures but with different levels of zoomingYeah, there was a time this was really popular. We weren't joking when we say it was on the verge of being one of the big games.
The plot was nonsense but it was fun and people warmed up to it. Her player base started growing and as soon as she got enough out to bring in a bit of money she seemed to give up.
We can say it was the pressure and all manner of excuses, fuck knows she used enough of them, but she never paused that Patreon page once even near the end no matter how many people tried to advise or help her get back into it or even build some good will she never listened.
She got away with it for so long because, to talk to her, she seemed like a genuinely nice person. She was easy to talk to, incredibly friendly and very easy to get along with. It also had the downside of it being hard to get pissed at her.
Even me, the self proclaimed queen of shitposting and girl behind a lot of the banter/arguments on this site had a hard time getting annoyed with her. We talked a bit and I genuinely liked her so when it came time to calling out her bullshit I am ashamed to admit I didn't. I tried talking to her like normal and that went nowhere.
I don't know if she set out to milk people and we got manipulated by her friendliness but I am pissed off I fell for it.
The 2 hours is you being kind ...but in reality what pissed me off about the dev is the "hey, i'm back, i will make the game great again" and less than a month disappear again, the dev just posted some screenshots about the "new game" and that, but in the end, finally look like patreon is cleaning the site, is not the first "dead" game that i have seen that they remove everything from there.she took 4 years to give us 3 in-game days of content...that you can play in 2 hours(if you go slow)
Just posted about it my dear home-boy XDThe 2 hours is you being kind ...but in reality what pissed me off about the dev is the "hey, i'm back, i will make the game great again" and less than a month disappear again, the dev just posted some screenshots about the "new game" and that, but in the end, finally look like patreon is cleaning the site, is not the first "dead" game that i have seen that they remove everything from there.
Beside trying to compile a mental list of what makes a good game, I've been trying to understand what causes a game to die like this. I get the sense that the plot/premise was complex (to be polite). Is that what did it in? Did the Dev get painted into a corner?Yeah, there was a time this was really popular. We weren't joking when we say it was on the verge of being one of the big games.
There was no plot in this game...only a vague premise.Beside trying to compile a mental list of what makes a good game, I've been trying to understand what causes a game to die like this. I get the sense that the plot/premise was complex (to be polite). Is that what did it in? Did the Dev get painted into a corner?
Seems to me that a game can't be started until the plot is laid out. Not necessarily written like a screenplay, but all the events and twists and turns and reveals figured out. Is that a fair assessment, or are games abandoned for more technical issues -- lack of time and resources?
Perhaps the opposite of being painted into a corner, but just as difficult when trying to plot where to go.There was no plot in this game...only a vague premise.
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No real plot, MC's mom just wanted him back...just that...i wish i could tell you more...but literally there is nothing else...
I think the dev didn't even think about a plot, but while in MyNewFamily the plot is minimal, but it's at least linear, even the order of birth, makes sensePerhaps the opposite of being painted into a corner, but just as difficult when trying to plot where to go.
And I thought The Last Jedi had a lazy half-baked script.
I've seen game announcements that admitted no real premise had been determined, "but look at these 6 great Daz models I've made!"
"I need a cast of characters made up of A, B, C, D, and E. And I can't think of a way to make it happen without it being silly or awful, or both."I think the dev didn't even think about a plot, but while in MyNewFamily the plot is minimal, but it's at least linear, even the order of birth, makes sense
Here even the basic premise of the game is weird...because MC's mom has the twins first no problems, no depression, then MC's dad dies while the mom is pregnant with MC, and gets both normal depression and post-partum depression...and she does the responsible thing of giving away MC...only to regret it nearly instantly, and instead of going back and taking MC from his step-family...she used artificial insemination to have another daughter and she adopts another one(randomly)...
it's convoluted, confused, just wrong and disturbing...because on one side, having a character who dealt with so much misery was appealing, i mean, depression is horrible, and made the game interesting..but at the same time...was done poorly in my opinion...
But that's you"I need a cast of characters made up of A, B, C, D, and E. And I can't think of a way to make it happen without it being silly or awful, or both."
My cast of characters has been revised several times. I've identified deadweight and removed it. I've acted on an opportunity to merge two under-utilized characters into one interesting and impactful one. I've even changed my mind on the MC twice. I can't imagine the trouble I'd be in right now if I had started publishing a game. Or the horror if I had accepted money for the development and then realized the plotting was rubbish and had to be redone.
What a shame.But that's you
Minxy never stopped the flow of money and kept lying and ignoring our advices and warnings...and it ended just like we warned her about...
of course keep in mind what Avaron said...Minxy, personality-wise isn't(or wasn't) a problem...but i don't know...she didn't love her creation...that's what i think...sometimes i feel like, she simply wanted to make easy money or maybe she thought that a porn-VN on Renpy would be easier to make...What a shame.