VN Ren'Py Abandoned PolyCafe [v0.1b] [2idiotgames]

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ptahn

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It's not NTR it's a poly relationship meaning multiple partners.

It's not 1 on 1 there are other people involved.

The clue is in the title.
The description of the game indicates that the life long friend can become a love interest or be pushed away. When your love interest is intimate with another man, I consider that NTR. The impression the description gave was that there were choices that you could make to determine your relationship with Lillie that was not the case. Whether intentional or not the description of the game is misleading. As for the title the POLY could refer to multiple partners which could include the MC and multiple females, or multiple males and multiple females. The description seemed to indicate that was the players choice. I have no issue with developers making games for people with varying tastes. I do have an issue with misleading players to get them to play a game that they will not like.
 

Avaron1974

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My only concern was that the game description on the OP of this thread is misleading.
How was a description about leading into a poly relationship misleading?

People read poly and assumed harem yet it's the devs fault and they were mislead because they were wrong?

Let us run this through the machine and see what it comes out with......

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magus448

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So whats the difference between Poly and FWB? I thought all poly partners had to be agreed upon with all members of the group or that's just how some do it.
 
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btrain33

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How was a description about leading into a poly relationship misleading?

People read poly and assumed harem yet it's the devs fault and they were mislead because they were wrong?

Let us run this through the machine and see what it comes out with......

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The game description is misleading. It alludes to that there is an option to win the affections of Lillie, yet while playing the game there are NO options of any kind to do exactly that. Calling me stupid for pointing this out is your prerogative. But I can assure you I will not stoop to your level of playground name calling.
 

CorujaCega

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Damn i just see the new art with the Rapistface really looks like he is gonna stay until the end, well i am out, good luck for the dev i am saying for real keep doing your game the way you want its just not for me and this is ok good luck :D
 

Avaron1974

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The game description is misleading. It alludes to that there is an option to win the affections of Lillie, yet while playing the game there are NO options of any kind to do exactly that. Calling me stupid for pointing this out is your prerogative. But I can assure you I will not stoop to your level of playground name calling.
0.1. What choices were you expecting to form in a 0.1?

Considering it's supposed to be his sister you are shocked you don't have the choice in the very first release to go after her?

Considering we're using playground logic I thought it appropriate.
 
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btrain33

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0.1. What choices were you expecting to form in a 0.1?

Considering it's supposed to be his sister you are shocked you don't have the choice in the very first release to go after her?

Considering we're using playground logic I thought it appropriate.
Actually, when I played the game I left that relationship as friend. Never changed it to sister. Have a good evening ma'am.
 

TheKryptonian

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Im just confused why the dev said in multiple posts that he understands most people dont like the Liam guy and the pay for sex with MC's sister/friend and that hes "working" on fixing it and then does a rewrite and its the same deal.

I mean wtf. Are we selling snake oil on this site now? o_O
 

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here is my unofficial android port of PolyCafe v0.1b.
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have fun and please report problems (you can reach me ).
 
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Avaron1974

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I played through it again to see what the complaining was about and the only thing I could see is the MC is the douchiest douche that ever douched.

Pretty sure his friend had a narrow escape.

I went with bikini girl and afterwards he acts like a complete cunt to her.

Fuck that guy.
 

Riitesh

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I played through it again to see what the complaining was about and the only thing I could see is the MC is the douchiest douche that ever douched.

Pretty sure his friend had a narrow escape.

I went with bikini girl and afterwards he acts like a complete cunt to her.

Fuck that guy.
This is why people are complaining. They want to be nice guy that gets his girl or at least gets close to her but nope all we get is a douche MC that jumps on the first hole he sees.
The story is going to revolve around MC and Lillie and with that comment from dev i think they are going to remove/Side track Liam from game in near future. Which i hope they don't.
You can experiment with the story but in sexual content there aren't much scope for experiment.
 

voyeurkind

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Played through 0.1b, and I had some thoughts:

* Banter between MC and Lillie could be better.

* 'sometime passed midnight' should be 'Sometime past midnight'

* Is that a dildo on the bathroom counter? Interesting thing in this situation, as they aren't lovers and I would imagine that whoever owns it would prefer to to keep it hidden even if the other party knows about it. Oops, apparently on second glance it's hairspray.

* I have a difficult time believing the MC doesn't know what thte noises coming from Lillie's room are. Perhaps he should be teasing her about them? I think it would show a closer relationship between the two.

* From the very first time he shows up on screen, I find Liam unlikable. If that's intentional, great, but I'm getting the feeling he isn't supposed to be.

* The business is surprisingly successful very, very quickly. Perhaps too quickly to work for the story.

* MC is definitely acting more like a lover than a friend or...whatever he's meant to be to Lillie.

* I see the MC reacting to Lillie's first reaction to Liam, but it's difficult to tell it's his thoughts as it's the same font as the general narration. Maybe those thoughts should be italicized or something similar to separate them and give clarity. This is also a point where I would like to see the MC elaborate on his thoughts in this regard, something like, "wow, she's really taken with him".

* It's good that Lillie is obviously attracted to Liam before the big tip, but I still think the big tip should be either taken out or reduced significantly.

* I see the MC reflects on Lillie's attraction after Liam gives her the tip, but I think it would be better if he thought those things before. It would be good to establish that Lillie is attracted to Liam before he starts throwing money around, otherwise it makes both characters much less likeable. AS it is now, Lillie looks like a gold digger, and Liam like a pompous ass.

* Now he teases her about masturbating? The timing just seems wrong.

* 'expedited', not 'expidited'

* The descriptive text for how bikini girl looks could be reduced a lot. You have images availalble to set the scene visually, so not so much is needed.

* I'm surprised they didn't talk about hiring more people the night before. Given a fledgling business and how busy they've been, I would think hiring someone else would be a heavy priority.

* It would be nice to see Lillie and Liam in more poses. Right now they kind of look like cardboard cut outs.

* Assuming Liam is in his late 30's-early 40's, he could stand to look a little older. Perhaps some more grey in his hair.

* Is this story going to be told from both the MC's and Lillie's perspectives? If that's not the case, we don't need to see her thoughts. It also might be better if the MC described her reactions, considering how well he knows her--assuming he knows her well.

* Why isn't Lillie talking to the MC about her feelings for Liam? If they have a strong relationship, especially if they're best friends/siblings, one would think she'd be down with sharing.

* If Liam is meant to be a business mentor, why isn't he doing more toe befriend the MC? Also, thinking about it, why didn't he ask Lillie earlier about your relationship to one another?

* 'pushes passed you' should be 'pushes past you'

* Lillie is a brand new business owner at a business that we already know is understaffed and overworked. I'm amazed she can state definitely that she'll be free any night that far prior.

* He seems kind of creepy to me too. Maybe the MC should ask her what she sees in Liam?

* I think 'would that seem too despite' was meant to be 'would that seem too desperate'

* Didn't Lillie already set a date with Liam? Why does she need to text him and ask again?

* I'm just realizing we know almost nothing about Lillie's personality. Apparently she's shy?

* I'm wondering what the MC and Lillie talk about when they hang out.

* I do like 'have fun with grandpa'. I wish there was more stuff like that. It would definitely make me think they're closer.

* That town needs more bars.

* Right away, Liam is being a condescending prick to Lillie, who doesn't seem to notice. I'm fine with him calling her 'good girl' and 'pet', but only if they've already established some sort of D/S relationship. Right out of the box it sounds creepy.

* I think this could use a lot less narration.

* Yes, why is she admitting this?

* There's so much we don't know about Lillie. Why has she been celibate? Why hasn't she seen the MC in five years? Why was she living with a crazy aunt who was obviously an unfit guardian?

* I'm not saying this never happens, but this negotiation is way too quick. She barely knows this guy so she has no references for him, and she apparently has zero experience with kink. If she were a newbie coming to her first munch, I and a lot of others would be warning her away from this exact situation.

* It would be good at some point for hte MC to think, "well, Lillie's an adult, and she's free to make her own choices" I think that would lessen the accusations of NTR.

* I'm surprised bikini girl drives to this bar rather than living within walking distance. She doesn't seem the type that cares much what other people think, and it would likely be more convenient for her to go to a local rather than a place she continuously has to drive to and back several times a night.

* The sex is fine, but it would be hotter if it were more public.

* I personally preferred it when bikini girl made it clear that she was mainly looking for a quick fuck. I don't think that ruined her as a potential character down the line, and in fact I think it's contrary to the behavior she exhibits before.

* If Liam is experienced at topping, he's acting like a creep.

So my biggest issues were with the relationship between the MC and Lillie, and with Liam's behavior.

For the former, it just never seems as if the two of them are close. Their banter feels stiff and uncomfortable, they don't talk or share their feelings, and their thoughts don't elaborate enough on their feelings about the current situation. We see at the end that the MC is a little jealous and so is Lillie, but it's hard to tell why. I just never got the feeling that these two had a close relationship.

I think I was pretty direct about my dislike for Liam in my thoughts, but to sum things up he seems to be an obnoxious predator rather than someone who's genuinely interested in Lillie. Perhaps if there had been some elaboration on their discussions that would have helped--there's a lot of talking between them that the player isn't privy to. There's all sort of things they could have discussed that, if I knew those things had been discussed, it would have been easier to accept.

It's fine to keep some mystery, but I also think it's important to establish at least some sort of public personality for the characters. If Lillie and the MC were estranged for some reason, mentioning that fact could help a lot with understanding their relationship.

Oh yeah, are they meant to be siblings? That's the usual reason for asking the player to define relationships like that. If not, I think it would be better if you just said they were best friends or former lovers or whatever, rather than allowing the playe to define it.
 

Avaron1974

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This is why people are complaining. They want to be nice guy that gets his girl or at least gets close to her but nope all we get is a douche MC that jumps on the first hole he sees.
The story is going to revolve around MC and Lillie and with that comment from dev i think they are going to remove/Side track Liam from game in near future. Which i hope they don't.
You can experiment with the story but in sexual content there aren't much scope for experiment.
I don't mind jumping in the first hole, I picked to jump in it, I liked her.

Problem is the game makes him look like a right dickhead afterwards. She tries to talk to him and he more or less tells her to fuck off which wasn't what I picked to do.

If choices don't mean anything then have them?

I don't care about other guys having sex with whoever, she's free to do what she wants but when I pick to go with someone I don't want to act like a twat to them afterwards.

It hardly gives a good impression of the MC and if people hate the MC they are less likely to keep playing.
 

Riitesh

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I hope we get to fuck Liam in the ass.....metaphorically though. #nohomo
Haha i hope..
But chances of him fucking MC and his girl in the ass is much higher and not just metaphorically cause the dude is wisdomous FFS.
 

Radriewyn

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I was going to download this update to see what was changed, but from reading all of the comments. It isn't worth the bandwidth of this crappy hotel internet to do, sounds like I will still be disappointed with it. I remember one of the biggest things from the first release and from what I read so far about this one is...

It is not NTR not cuck hell at this point I am trying to figure out how it is going to be Poly between the MC and Lillie.

The love is there, even though you barely can tell it, but the most important aspect is not there which is trust. How can they have any type of relationship with each other if they hide things from the other, or will not talk to the other, and how can they really seem trustworthy in a relationship if they are dropping their pants for the first person that shows them interest?

Good luck with the story, you should find some interested people, but for me it is still too fast paced, and Having been in a Poly relationship before, this is far from a good start of one in my opinion. I will check back after a few more updates and see if it gets any better. I really like the renders, and I like the writing style, so I do hope it gets better in time.
 

magus448

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I don't mind jumping in the first hole, I picked to jump in it, I liked her.

Problem is the game makes him look like a right dickhead afterwards. She tries to talk to him and he more or less tells her to fuck off which wasn't what I picked to do.

If choices don't mean anything then have them?

I don't care about other guys having sex with whoever, she's free to do what she wants but when I pick to go with someone I don't want to act like a twat to them afterwards.

It hardly gives a good impression of the MC and if people hate the MC they are less likely to keep playing.
It seems the scene that shows after they have sex is the same when you turn her down, which I found odd.
 

DrakoGhoul

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The preview pics and the details in the OP look interesting. I guess I'll give it a go.
 

Riitesh

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I don't mind jumping in the first hole, I picked to jump in it, I liked her.

Problem is the game makes him look like a right dickhead afterwards. She tries to talk to him and he more or less tells her to fuck off which wasn't what I picked to do.

If choices don't mean anything then have them?

I don't care about other guys having sex with whoever, she's free to do what she wants but when I pick to go with someone I don't want to act like a twat to them afterwards.

It hardly gives a good impression of the MC and if people hate the MC they are less likely to keep playing.
I haven't played 0.1b but description of mc sounds like typical beta jealous mc who cannot man up to his girl :p
I am sure they will change MC as the game progress but..
With the opening like this i am certain he(Dev) lost support of many harem lover. And IDK what will happen if they shift the game to love story b/w Lillie and MC. IDk how many NTR lover will support this.
I hope there are audience for such games.
 
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