- Mar 9, 2018
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So we will be able to skip Lillie and Liam together, but their scenes will still happen, but we won't see them, then what's the point of skipping them
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- Nov 15, 2018
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Adding more dialogue wont help those that clearly didn't read the dialogue in first version. Seriously most of the assumptions made were already contrary to what dialogue showed...ie Lille a whore, slut and sold by tip even though dialogue clear she was attracted even as walking up to table, other dialogue also showed they both only dated occasionally in past (with mutual support) and had been working hard to get the Cafe a reality with personal lives on hold. Liam a prick and throwing money around buying what he wanted...he rude once when waiting an hour, rest of time he treated both MC and Lillie politely even if MC rude...even when he in Dom/sub role play he was barely pulling it off he was so respectful, and seriously what sort of "user" would get her off and then forgo own pleasure, Problem was not at your end or with writing. No matter how much back story and effort you go into explaining no relationship between Lillie and MC yet these guys going to cry NTR and no matter how much you hide the Lillie/Liam relationship they going to cry about not having all the women only worshiping their cock alone. Also ask yourself why are they so upset at speed of Liam/Lillie relationship when MC was getting a BJ from a girl he didn't even know without even going on date without same complaints? It has nothing to do with speed or build up just that its not with MC.
I for one thought you did great job giving a lot of information with a week long demo without getting bogged down with backstory.
- Nov 30, 2018
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Same here should definitely be two routes for this the MC route with all the women and another for sharing, I was enjoying this game up until that point with Liam that stuff just ain't for me.
- Aug 10, 2018
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The reason most people (guys) were upset is because bikini girl came off as a whore to begin with where as lillie was supposed to be an actual love interest, and a lot of people cant stand the thought of your li getting with someone else unless your in the sharing/ntr crowd. Everyone has their kinks and I'm not one to shame. Yes there are double standards when it comes to male and female. Wether you admit it or not if a female is sexually experienced and tries to take charge she's considered a slut, easy etc. If a Male is in the same situation hes considered a ladies man. I'm not saying it's fair but that's how most people in society see it. Also most people if they are honest will answer this. If a guy sees 2 girls let's say twins for the sake of the argument. One being inexperienced and shy while the other experienced and wild most guys will say one is relationship material while the other is just for fun. While on the other hand if you have male twins that one is experienced and take charge while the other one is shy and inexperienced most women will choose the experienced one to be with. Obviously there are exceptions to any argument but if your honest with yourself you know most women would see the inexperienced one as less of a man than the experienced one. Also this is a game and the Liam character brought out a 50 shades vibe which most guys didnt like the movie (except the sex scenes) let's be honest while women went wild over the 50 shades movie. I know there are women here playing games also but the majority that play here are males. But like I said before everyone has their own kinks and if you like this game play it and to the dev keep doing what you like. You wont please everyone. It's not about more dialog it's about them seeing their li with someone else. So skip or not to those scenes it wont matter in the long run.
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There's a strong vocal presence on these forums that want every single game to be for them and them only, and they will declaim loudly if a game isn't aimed a them or doesn't include one of their fetishes. And of course, rather than creating a game of their own or finding one that focuses on these interests, they'll try to browbeat new developers into making the game they want,not what the developer is attempting to make. Many developers cave into these demands, which is unfortunate, as it's frequently a small minority that really want that content. There's likely an audience for all types of content here who rarely if ever post but are looking for games that do something different.
I want to support every honest developer that creates a game, even if that game has content that's not to my liking. It takes a lot of time and effort to create one of these games, and I appreciate that. I personally don't want every game to be the "same-old same-old", and I find it refreshing when someone tries something different, whether it pleases me or not.
I would very much like to see this game succeed as the creators originally intended. Maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't, but I want to see a game that isn't just the usual fuckfest or harem or catering entirely to the same demographic as all of the others.
I think there are some valid points of criticism for this game that have been raised in this thread, but I also feel like a lot of the criticism is of the "it's not how I want it so I'm going to complain" variety. I don't think that's useful or encouraging. I understand that there are things that people like to see in these games, but once again not every game needs to be the same, and they would all get very boring if they were.
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There's a strong vocal presence on these forums that want every single game to be for them and them only, and they will declaim loudly if a game isn't aimed a them or doesn't include one of their fetishes. And of course, rather than creating a game of their own or finding one that focuses on these interests, they'll try to browbeat new developers into making the game they want,not what the developer is attempting to make. Many developers cave into these demands, which is unfortunate, as it's frequently a small minority that really want that content. There's likely an audience for all types of content here who rarely if ever post but are looking for games that do something different.
I want to support every honest developer that creates a game, even if that game has content that's not to my liking. It takes a lot of time and effort to create one of these games, and I appreciate that. I personally don't want every game to be the "same-old same-old", and I find it refreshing when someone tries something different, whether it pleases me or not.
I would very much like to see this game succeed as the creators originally intended. Maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't, but I want to see a game that isn't just the usual fuckfest or harem or catering entirely to the same demographic as all of the others.
I think there are some valid points of criticism for this game that have been raised in this thread, but I also feel like a lot of the criticism is of the "it's not how I want it so I'm going to complain" variety. I don't think that's useful or encouraging. I understand that there are things that people like to see in these games, but once again not every game needs to be the same, and they would all get very boring if they were.
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- Aug 10, 2018
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That is why I said you cant please everyone and I agree good luck to the Devs on their game
- Jan 26, 2018
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Thinking about it, I think one of the big problems people have with the Liam/Lillie relationship is the large tips Liam keeps throwing around. This creates the perception that one of the major reasons Lillie is attracted to him is because of his money, which makes her much less attractive as a potential love interest in the eyes of many people. I'm sure the developers are aware of the resentment a lot of men harbor towards women who seem to be obviously attracted to financial status over everything else, and having Liam throwing money around like it was sand doesn't help.
I got the feeling that Lillie's attraction to Liam was meant to be unnatural, as if Liam was using mind control or something similar. Assuming that was the intention, rather than having him throw around money, perhaps he could show up and bring her a single rose or something along those lines. Make the attraction more about his charisma than his money,
The other thing I would say is that the relationship between the MC and Lillie isn't developed well enough initially. We know they have a relationship, but what is it? Are they childhood friends who grew up together? Did they meet in college? Afterwards? Are they related? Is there mutual attraction? I know that there's an attempt to let the player define the relationship and that's likely why there's so little detail, but maybe there should be some consideration about fleshing out their relationship better. Obviously if they live together and she's comfortable walking around in front of him wearing her panties they're fairly close, but what kind of history do they have?
I got the feeling that Lillie's attraction to Liam was meant to be unnatural, as if Liam was using mind control or something similar. Assuming that was the intention, rather than having him throw around money, perhaps he could show up and bring her a single rose or something along those lines. Make the attraction more about his charisma than his money,
The other thing I would say is that the relationship between the MC and Lillie isn't developed well enough initially. We know they have a relationship, but what is it? Are they childhood friends who grew up together? Did they meet in college? Afterwards? Are they related? Is there mutual attraction? I know that there's an attempt to let the player define the relationship and that's likely why there's so little detail, but maybe there should be some consideration about fleshing out their relationship better. Obviously if they live together and she's comfortable walking around in front of him wearing her panties they're fairly close, but what kind of history do they have?
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Calling her "pet" right from the get go didnt help either
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Also one more thing. People have a problem with a li getting into a relationship during the game there is less hate when the li is already in a relationship at the start of the game and during the process of the game leaves that relationship to be with the mc
- Jul 24, 2017
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I'm in the middle of playing this right now. I don't know how I feel about Liam yet- he does seem a little heavy-handed with Lillie, but I'm willing to see where it goes.
Regardless, it *really* bothers me that their first day of business they order a pizza. I get that you're tired of cooking all day, but when you're working in a kitchen, you'd probably graze as you go, plus you have a ton of product that's going to go bad or food waste, plus they are out of their savings and are talking about that $200 tip... They have food at the restaurant. I don't think they'd spend the money or the waiting time on a pizza. More like, hey, I prepped the $whatever, let's eat it instead of tossing it.
Am I the only one here?
PS- I hope they hire Emma.
Regardless, it *really* bothers me that their first day of business they order a pizza. I get that you're tired of cooking all day, but when you're working in a kitchen, you'd probably graze as you go, plus you have a ton of product that's going to go bad or food waste, plus they are out of their savings and are talking about that $200 tip... They have food at the restaurant. I don't think they'd spend the money or the waiting time on a pizza. More like, hey, I prepped the $whatever, let's eat it instead of tossing it.
Am I the only one here?
PS- I hope they hire Emma.
- Aug 22, 2018
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It's not a harem game, of course they still happen the women don't belong to the MC it's a poly relationship which involves other people.
If that's not your thing this isn't the game for you.
There is no relationship with the MC, it's poly, everyone is involved with each other.
- Mar 9, 2018
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Yeah the game is not for me, but skipping their scenes would defeat the purpose of poly relationship
- Aug 22, 2018
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Of course it does but you get people that like to skip over other people having sex in things like this.
- Aug 10, 2018
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I know theres no relationship, I never said there was. I said she was a love interest. Which is different.
- Aug 22, 2018
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My mistake. I seem to have got the word "relationship" mixed up with "relationship" which is obviously a completely different word.
- Aug 10, 2018
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No you see the word jus not the context. If you read it you understand that the person is a li that doesn't mean you are in a relationship with them it means possible relationship. Also I said the li getting into a relationship was a problem not that the li already in a relationship was a problem. Just to clear up what you misunderstood
- Jun 23, 2018
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I quit the game and deleted forever since I could not keep Lillie from Liam. NTR is not my thing. I wished the developer had used the NTR tag so I would not have wasted my time.
Hello everyone!
We have finally released version 0.1b
We have changed much of the script. Taken several scenes out and added some new ones!
Cheers!
Side note: Sorry as this is our first time updating the game, will the amazing mods here automatically update the top post with the new version link or...?
We have finally released version 0.1b
We have changed much of the script. Taken several scenes out and added some new ones!
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Cheers!
Side note: Sorry as this is our first time updating the game, will the amazing mods here automatically update the top post with the new version link or...?
Also it would be amazing if the main image would be updated to this.
Thank you!