Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[dartred]

so we've gone from 10, to 8, to 18, to 16%. 16% being probably the most accurate. now if we add all the what if scenes as well as dream scenes were at what, probably 25-30%? maybe more? yeah yeah not part of the actual game and all, but they are still same universe and not any less cannon then the rest. idc that the game has the scenes but this trying to downplay them as something insignificant is wrong. maybe throw a vanilla suggestion out for voting if you want peoples perception of the game to change

https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-ch-11-official-what-why-games.36240/post-11464708

Stop complaining about it. Take the mods advice. If you don't like a fetish that is taking up "16%" of the game, delete it, put the thread in your ignore list and don't download any more updates. You don't even support the dev. Don't talk about "people should suggest Vanilla". That's hypocritical to ask others to do what you won't.

They do get suggested, but the people don't want it so they don't get voted on. You might not like to hear it. You might not agree with it, but since they were introduced, NTR has always been more popular in PV. Vanilla patrons weren't scared off that NTR was always winning, because they were winning from the start.



On the very first month WWG released PV, he made a poll asking if NTR should be kept or removed. 89.7% asked to KEEP NTR. That's 10% of players at release saying to remove NTR. Vanilla has never had a strong showing in PV. Yet this game didn't turn into an NTR first game.

Next year he made a poll, that would not change anything. He just made it to see how players choose to play his game. 63% of players played with NTR on.

 

[MangoMeta]

https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-ch-11-official-what-why-games.36240/post-11464708

Stop complaining about it. Take the mods advice. If you don't like a fetish that is taking up "16%" of the game, delete it, put the thread in your ignore list and don't download any more updates. You don't even support the dev. Don't talk about "people should suggest Vanilla". That's hypocritical to ask others to do what you won't.

They do get suggested, but the people don't want it so they don't get voted on. You might not like to hear it. You might not agree with it, but since they were introduced, NTR has always been more popular in PV. Vanilla patrons weren't scared off that NTR was always winning, because they were winning from the start.

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On the very first month WWG released PV, he made a poll asking if NTR should be kept or removed. 89.7% asked to KEEP NTR. That's 10% of players at release saying to remove NTR. Vanilla has never had a strong showing in PV. Yet this game didn't turn into an NTR first game.

Next year he made a poll, that would not change anything. He just made it to see how players choose to play his game. 63% of players played with NTR on.

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your the one that has made it your goal to downplay how much of the game it actually is when its a large chunk of the game. dont want people to talk about it? that then stop talking about it yourself. just accept that thats more then enough of a portion, even not considering the insane amount of dream and what if content, to not enjoy the game

 

[SuddenReal]

your the one that has made it your goal to downplay how much of the game it actually is when its a large chunk of the game.

But it's not, though. 16% isn't a large chunk. It's less than one fifth.

just accept that thats more then enough of a portion, even not considering the insane amount of dream and what if content, to not enjoy the game

If you think that's too much to enjoy the game, why not play it with NTR off? I mean, the option is right there, made specifically for people like you who don't enjoy it.

 

[dartred]

My goal to downplay? It's been my goal to set things straight. To use facts. Why do you think i make all the stat sheets? So we get to the bottom of things. My feelings don't effect the statistics. I've never wrote there were less NTR events then there actually were. I never wrote there was less penetration by NTR then there actually were. So how was i down playing? what have you helped with though? All you do is complain.

if 16% is more then enough to enjoy it. YOUR OWN WORDS. Delete this game and ignore it. You JUST said you don't enjoy this game. Put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise, never complain about the NTR again. You just lost your right after saying you don't enjoy this game anymore.

and it's not even 16% of the "game". it's 16% of the sex of the game. if we put how much runtime an NTR event is out of a whole chapters runtime. it's probably going to be 5% or less on average.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

your the one that has made it your goal to downplay how much of the game it actually is when its a large chunk of the game. dont want people to talk about it? that then stop talking about it yourself. just accept that thats more then enough of a portion, even not considering the insane amount of dream and what if content, to not enjoy the game

Your whole argument is meaningless. Dartred attempted to present objective facts, while you debate semantics and offer no concrete facts of your own.

The game is what it is, and it's nearing completion. It's way too late to change course just to appease complainers or appeal to a phantom audience.

Let it go, man.

 

[cxvvxcvcxvcx]

New teasers - paint me a picture with words

 

[jamiehmcw91]

New teasers - paint me a picture with words

Drew begins her life with Lucia and Keira

 

[dartred]

New teasers - paint me a picture with words

NTR teasers - Drew seems to have moved in with Lucia and her mom Keira. Seems they had the talk and Drew is father. Lucia actually looks HAPPY to be with Drew. It's a bad end, so makes sense. No nudity shown, but we know it's the bad end by the title saying NTR.

Oh and the blue shirt she's wearing. God damn! I don't know why, but it makes her breast look amazing. Lucia is actually looking like the hottest girl for this chapters set of teasers. It's not even fancy shirt or anything, but the way they make her breast look even without cleavage lol.

 

[jamiehmcw91]

NTR teasers - Drew seems to have moved in with Lucia and her mom Keira. Seems they had the talk and Drew is father. Lucia actually looks HAPPY to be with Drew. It's a bad end, so makes sense. No nudity shown, but we know it's the bad end by the title saying NTR.

Oh and the blue shirt she's wearing. God damn! I don't know why, but it makes her breast look amazing. Lucia is actually looking like the hottest girl for this chapters set of teasers. It's not even fancy shirt or anything, but the way they make her breast look even without cleavage lol.

Yeah I agree with you there Darted the blue shirt wow and Lucia does look hot

 

[Guyin Cognito]

It's funny. These arguments are all about NTR, percentage of game content, game development time, and so on--nothing in the actually political, per se. And yet, I feel like I can tell who's a Republican and who's a Democrat just from the manner in which they frame their arguments.

 

[dartred]

I don't like politic talks and it'll probably get deleted as for off topic, but who would i be?

 

[Guyin Cognito]

I don't like politic talks and it'll probably get deleted as for off topic, but who would i be?

Oh, well THIS will DEFINITELY get deleted. Spoilered for those who'd "rather not get into it."

Spoiler: I'd guess

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[Fayn Arawn]

It's funny. These arguments are all about NTR, percentage of game content, game development time, and so on--nothing in the actually political, per se. And yet, I feel like I can tell who's a Republican and who's a Democrat just from the manner in which they frame their arguments.

Oh, so you must be ok with them teaching NTR theory to our kids in schools?

 

[dartred]

Yeah, you're right lol.

 

[Talilover]

Is there any gallery? Gameplay is a bit boring at the start and wanna make sure the scenes are worth the slog

 

[Kas96]

As a NTR hater, i still love the developer work bcoz we need to understand, whenever you are forcing dev to accomplish our idea rather than his plan, the work will not be significant. And tbh this game contains 80% vanilla and 20% NTR and those NTR will be replaced if you choose them correctly.... Simple as it is, i don't wanna see the NTR and i never choose the bad ending

 

[Satou Pendragon]

As a NTR hater, i still love the developer work bcoz we need to understand, whenever you are forcing dev to accomplish our idea rather than his plan, the work will not be significant. And tbh this game contains 80% vanilla and 20% NTR and those NTR will be replaced if you choose them correctly.... Simple as it is, i don't wanna see the NTR and i never choose the bad ending

It's even easier just play it with NTR off and you won't even get the option to see ntr.

 

[Miss Kobayashi's]

As a NTR hater, i still love the developer work bcoz we need to understand, whenever you are forcing dev to accomplish our idea rather than his plan, the work will not be significant. And tbh this game contains 80% vanilla and 20% NTR and those NTR will be replaced if you choose them correctly.... Simple as it is, i don't wanna see the NTR and i never choose the bad ending

so right now it's like that, but it won't go any further than pawing, and in the end Grandpa won't get anything, because all the NTR scenes in the game are considered bad endings, and you'll have to go back to make another choice.

 

[Guyin Cognito]

Is there any gallery? Gameplay is a bit boring at the start and wanna make sure the scenes are worth the slog

Gallery appears in Sterling's room after Chapter 1 is complete. Looks like film reels over on the right, above the helpful robot.
Chapter 1 has a more "grind for points" aspect that is not present in most of the game.
Each chapter has around 11 entries in the gallery. Eventually, you get to fully animated and rather lengthy sex scenes with multiple positions and sometimes more than one girl at a time. The sex scenes are pretty great.
HOWEVER! This is a comedy, and if you don't appreciate the comedy aspect, you will get frustrated.
Try to get to the end of Chapter 2 (you'll know, because it says a new chapter starts and there's a big confrontation/conversation scene between Sterling and Hunter). It feels like less of a slog after Chapter 1.
Do not be afraid to use the robot and the hourglass functions while getting through Chapter 1. It's still useful later, but especially in Ch1.

 

[DD69-1]

https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-ch-11-official-what-why-games.36240/post-11464708

Stop complaining about it. Take the mods advice. If you don't like a fetish that is taking up "16%" of the game, delete it, put the thread in your ignore list and don't download any more updates. You don't even support the dev. Don't talk about "people should suggest Vanilla". That's hypocritical to ask others to do what you won't.

They do get suggested, but the people don't want it so they don't get voted on. You might not like to hear it. You might not agree with it, but since they were introduced, NTR has always been more popular in PV. Vanilla patrons weren't scared off that NTR was always winning, because they were winning from the start.

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On the very first month WWG released PV, he made a poll asking if NTR should be kept or removed. 89.7% asked to KEEP NTR. That's 10% of players at release saying to remove NTR. Vanilla has never had a strong showing in PV. Yet this game didn't turn into an NTR first game.

Next year he made a poll, that would not change anything. He just made it to see how players choose to play his game. 63% of players played with NTR on.

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NTR is more popular in PV as dartred mentioned before, there's no debate about it, all what-if's and dream sequences are majority with the NTR fan-base <on patreon voting and even on F95: they're heavy NTR supporters>, as dartred rightly said that there aren't simply enough vanilla supporters to push it, I realized when chapter 10 & 11 released when I was a patreon, after chapter 11, I just dropped support after playing chapter 11: because nothing was going to change the outcome of how the scenes are designed, of the main game and side content.

Just imagine, I was patreon and just voiced my opinion a couple of days back, all my replies are downvoted here, shows how much support there is for NTR here on f95 and patreon, again this is not kink-shaming. If you're a vanilla fan and don't like how things are going then just drop support, if you don't support the developer financially then just play the game as it is. I thought I can share feedback since I was a patreon but clearly not