Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[MAGO-DAG]

I would like to point out my post was in reply to a discussion on why harem fans do not like it when there is optional NTR.
Thus those statements are not explicitly specific to this game.
Even if this game is completely airtight and never leaks any NTR, people got burned enough times on other leaky games that they would be wary.

Dude...

I've never seen harem fans whining here, even in the last few months none of the harem people have discussed anything about PV and their NTR because everyone already knows what this game is about...

You wrote some incomprehensible things lol,Maybe you wrote this based on the conclusions of crying anti-ntr fans?
I don't even remember a single scene from ntr being involved in canon.

 

[harem.king]

Just because things like this can happen in other games, doesn't mean it happens in this particular one. In fact, none of your five points happen in this game, so you bringing this up without proper (and incorrect) context is like saying you don't play FPS games because you can glitch through the world in some indie FPS.

Also, point six is a dev post, not in-game content. The only reason why people are wary of these thing happening is because of people like you who use other games as examples for things non-applicable for this game.

1. official dev posts not being in game is irrelevant. It still happened. I am still traumatized from seeing hunter naked.
Also, while the dev post happened out of game, the CONTENTS of the dev post exists in the game.
Thus, if the content did not exist in the game, it would never have been found in a dev post.

2. the claim that none of the in game examples occur here is also false. there are various "close call" / "near miss" scenes in this game. (usually followed up by hunter getting brutally injured in the harem path). take for example the scene where he has his tooth knocked out after drugging your sister and forcing you help him try to fuck her. You have a last moment save which causes him to lose a tooth to her punch. But there was still that entire scene that, while not NTR, was a near miss which was unpleasant.

3. some of us have functional pattern recognition. While it is hypothetically possible that NTR leak will never happen in a specific game (not this one since it already has). it is entirely legitimate to be wary of NTR leak happening due to optional NTR existing. The odds of a leak are near infinitely larger (divide by zero) when NTR is added to the game compared to it just not existing (something needs to exist in order to leak).

4. your analogy about FPS games is so nonsensical to the point of not even being worthy of detailed breakdown.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

1. official dev posts not being in game is irrelevant. It still happened. I am still traumatized from seeing hunter naked.
Also, while the dev post happened out of game, the CONTENTS of the dev post exists in the game.
Thus, if the content did not exist in the game, it would never have been found in a dev post.

2. the claim that none of the in game examples occur here is also false. there are various "close call" / "near miss" scenes in this game. (usually followed up by hunter getting brutally injured in the harem path). take for example the scene where he has his tooth knocked out.

3. some of us have functional pattern recognition. While it is hypothetically possible that NTR leak will never happen in a specific game (not this one since it already has). it is entirely legitimate to be wary of NTR leak happening due to optional NTR existing. The odds of a leak are infinitely larger (divide by zero) when NTR is added to the game compared to it just not existing.

4. your analogy about FPS games is so nonsensical to the point of not even being worthy of detailed breakdown.

You're putting harem fans in an awkward position, dude, better stop it.

 

[lupogba6]

is there no gallery in this game ?

 

[MiltonPowers]

is there no gallery in this game ?

Yes there is.

When you're in your room. Click the movie reel thing on the right.

 

[thatoneguy543w745387]

Very rarely have i played a game with such a pathetic, spineless beta-male as the main character in this game.

Hes not a harem protagonist, Hes a NTR protagonist.

Picture every negative aspect associated with weakness a man could have: - Now apply all of them to this main character.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Picture every negative aspect associated with weakness a man could have: - Now apply all of them to this main character.

I don't know I don't think Sterling would ever post a comment like this, or unironically use the phrase beta-male, so I don't think your supposition is correct.

 

[DD69-1]

WWG said they might be rolled out one by one but maybe we'll see them bundled together in an epilogue chapter.
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wow more bad ends, and we get 1 ending for Sterling since it's a harem game lol, I thought this was the final chapter for NTR, apparently this isn't the case and chapter 13.2 will also have have the bad ends, glad I stopped subscription after chapter 10.
It's a good news for NTR fans though they have more than 5+ NTR bad end scenes this update [from the polls and teasers] and it will continue as well going forward and more coming next update as well.

Edit: Didn't Drew get an epilogue where he stays with Lucia and Keira, so he'll be getting another epilogue now ? also Kevin got a happy ending epilogue as well in chapter 12 along with Ophelia and main female cast, so meaning they'll get additional epilogues on top on those in chapter 13 and 13.2. WWG is really biased towards NTR crowd.

Very rarely have i played a game with such a pathetic, spineless beta-male as the main character in this game.

Hes not a harem protagonist, Hes a NTR protagonist.

100% true --> that's why majority of the game is funded by NTR patrons

 

[thatoneguy543w745387]

I don't know I don't think Sterling would ever post a comment like this, or unironically use the phrase beta-male, so I don't think your supposition is correct.

'UnIrOnIcAlLy UsEs ThE tErM BeTa MaLe'

Beta male isnt a medical term. Its an insult used to describe pathetic, cowardly, spineless, weak males.

But that takes too long.

So in short, beta males.

I swear, we need to bring back the facepalm emoji...

 

[TigerWolfe]

'UnIrOnIcAlLy UsEs ThE tErM BeTa MaLe'

Beta male isnt a medical term. Its an insult used to describe pathetic, cowardly, spineless, weak males.

But that takes too long.

So in short, beta males.

I swear, we need to bring back the facepalm emoji...

Not sure what made you think I thought it was a medical term, it's from a flawed understanding of how wolf pack hierarchies work.

Men who worry about projecting strength are often the weakest and most insecure, actual strong men don't worry about whether they appear strong, they appear strong because of what they do.

The alpha beta choads of the internet are some of the saddest most insecure humans I've ever encountered, but you do you boo boo.

 

[SuddenReal]

The alpha beta choads of the internet are some of the saddest most insecure humans I've ever encountered

Says the man who admits being a BETA tester in his sig...

I'm kidding! I'm kidding!

Anyway, back to serious mode...

Also, while the dev post happened out of game, the CONTENTS of the dev post exists in the game.

So, you refuse to play any game with an early game over screen or multiple paths? Because all that content is also in that game. Boy, I hope you never discover any of the Baldur's Gate games, because that shit will blow your mind.

But there was still that entire scene that, while not NTR, was a near miss which was unpleasant.

Ah, allow me to become some of the saddest most insecure humans TigerWolfe has ever encountered: a real alpha male will always fight to keep his girl, no matter what or how. The fact that you draw the line somewhere shows you're not.

some of us have functional pattern recognition.

And some of us know that functional pattern recognition isn't applicable everywhere. So, yeah, that's the dumbest shit ever.

your analogy about FPS games is so nonsensical to the point of not even being worthy of detailed breakdown.

Because it exposes your dumbest shit ever? I glitch through the world in badly made FPS games, therefor I can glitch through the world in any FPS game. It's called functional pattern recognition. Look it up.

 

[TigerWolfe]

Says the man who admits being a BETA tester in his sig...

I'm kidding! I'm kidding!

Anyway, back to serious mode...

I can be pretty sad and insecure sometimes.

 

[harem.king]

I don't know I don't think Sterling would ever post a comment like this, or unironically use the phrase beta-male, so I don't think your supposition is correct.

Beta male is a perfectly valid term to use. It perfectly describes a certain type of person. And you perfectly understood exactly what he meant. Meaning the word worked as intended

The origin of the word comes from a researcher who observed a family of wolves mistakenly thinking they are unrelated.
She noticed the wolves do not engage in incest, but not realizing that this is what they are doing, she instead started humanizing them and basically described how the "weak males" are a bunch of cuckolds.
She poured out all her understanding of human sexuality into her imagination of what wolves are like.

Later on she finally figured out what she was doing wrong. and retracted her paper. while explaining that oops, they were actually just avoiding incest.
But the term already caught on. and that is fine. as far as terms go it is a perfectly serviceable term that is easily understood.

Also, I don't know if you have not noticed, but this isn't a hospital. So people can communicate with each other here without using terms out of a medical textbook.

 

[Dogorti]

Assholes who spend all day crying in porn game forums over a tag use the term beta male as if they were alpha males. I hope one day to be as delusional as those people.

 

[thatoneguy543w745387]

Not sure what made you think I thought it was a medical term, it's from a flawed understanding of how wolf pack hierarchies work.

Men who worry about projecting strength are often the weakest and most insecure, actual strong men don't worry about whether they appear strong, they appear strong because of what they do.

The alpha beta choads of the internet are some of the saddest most insecure humans I've ever encountered, but you do you boo boo.

Nah, i find that beta males are actually more insecure (and the internet warriors who defend them).

Lets take this game for example.

The MC here is a beta who constantly worries about saving his family from his evil pervy grandad.

If i were in his shoes, grandad would have an 'accident' pretty much immediately after the first conversation.

Instead of cowering, i would do whats necessary to protect my family - ya know, like a normal red blooded man.


I wont go so far as to say i am the pinnacle of alpha-ness like arnold shwarzenegger or something, but i can damn well say that i have some fucking pride.

There is a limit on what is acceptable weakness for men.

There is a general level of masculinity and strength that men should abide by. A metric standard.

Its not fucking rocket science. Its pretty damn common sensical if you think about it.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

If i were in his shoes, grandad would have an 'accident' pretty much immediately after the first conversation.

And how would you have paid the mortgage? It might be harder to protect your family if they're homeless. Play chess, not checkers.

 

[thatoneguy543w745387]

And how would you have paid the mortgage? It might be harder to protect your family if they're homeless. Play chess, not checkers.

i said i wasnt a bitch.

I never said i was good at planning.

But if i had to give an explantation...

I would get a job.

I would tell the sisters to get a fucking job.

The mother might have to get a job.

Might have to sell the million dollar house and downsize to an apartment.


But it would still be a million times better than letting that evil old man run around molesting the family.

Plus, this game takes place in america - debt is not the end of the world in america.

 

[TigerWolfe]

And how would you have paid the mortgage? It might be harder to protect your family if they're homeless. Play chess, not checkers.

Life lessons from the big strong alpha child.

 

[snakeplisskin]

Life lessons from the big strong alpha child.

Do people not realize everything about this game is making fun of NTR troupes. Therefore Sterling is merely a parody of the standard dude who gets NTR'd.

 

[SuddenReal]

If i were in his shoes, grandad would have an 'accident' pretty much immediately after the first conversation.

Instead of cowering, i would do whats necessary to protect my family - ya know, like a normal red blooded man.

Yeah, sorry to burst your bubble, but normal red blooded men are not psychopaths for who violence is the first option.

But if i had to give an explantation...

I would get a job.

I would tell the sisters to get a fucking job.

The mother might have to get a job.

Might have to sell the million dollar house and downsize to an apartment.

Holy fuck, how boomer of you. "Get a job"?
And what would your job be? Stalking the rest of the family to make sure that every guy who shows interest in them has a "little accident"?

Not to mention that this is a porn game. The object is still to fuck the rest of the family. Not a lot of time to do that if they all have jobs, not that they'd want to fuck you, since you're the one who forced them to get a job in the first place.