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Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]
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I'll throw in my 2 cents. The it's non-canon argument doesn't fully work.
Let's take a popular comic characters like Batman, Spiderman, Superman or Wonder Woman. There is the core version and other versions set in their own contained universe, think the comic book vs the movie versions as an example. Even though they are their own separate characters, they can still reflect on the perception of the character overall.
If you approached DC and said you wanted to do a comic with an alternative version of Wonder Woman where she becomes an absolute whore and goes around getting into gangbangs, even if there was an audience for that, that it could make them some profit, they would in no way allow it because they know it would reflect on Wonder Woman overall.
Let's take a popular comic characters like Batman, Spiderman, Superman or Wonder Woman. There is the core version and other versions set in their own contained universe, think the comic book vs the movie versions as an example. Even though they are their own separate characters, they can still reflect on the perception of the character overall.
If you approached DC and said you wanted to do a comic with an alternative version of Wonder Woman where she becomes an absolute whore and goes around getting into gangbangs, even if there was an audience for that, that it could make them some profit, they would in no way allow it because they know it would reflect on Wonder Woman overall.
And yet they exist I have seen soo much wonder woman porn, DC won't do it because they are afraid of being boycotted by what ever mortality groups are around. Life get less fun when you have you push passed pickets every day.
- Dec 4, 2018
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Actually it's kind of a mixed bag for me. NTR is not a major kink of mine. It's just in the "I can fap to it, depending on how it's done" category. And I actually really love the way the NTR is done in this game. It's hilarious. And that's not a word I usually ever associate with NTR 
! When I see a dialogue choice I always try to guess and intentionally chose which one is the NTR one just to see what happens. Since the game is going to be kind enough to "rollback" for me anyway.
I've actually really enjoyed these What Ifs as fun little non-canon side-episodes that are both funny and that I can also fap to haha. But I am also dying to see the main story continue because I'm so invested at this point. When everything is said and done, and we eventually get a completed game (knock on wood) that also has 10 or however many What If episodes along side it, I'll probably be glad that they're there. But when you're left on a main story cliffhanger that you're eager to see get continued, and then you keep seeing that there's a new update, get excited, and then see that it's "just" yet another What If episode, it can invoke feelings of "Oh come on!!"
! When I see a dialogue choice I always try to guess and intentionally chose which one is the NTR one just to see what happens. Since the game is going to be kind enough to "rollback" for me anyway.I've actually really enjoyed these What Ifs as fun little non-canon side-episodes that are both funny and that I can also fap to haha. But I am also dying to see the main story continue because I'm so invested at this point. When everything is said and done, and we eventually get a completed game (knock on wood) that also has 10 or however many What If episodes along side it, I'll probably be glad that they're there. But when you're left on a main story cliffhanger that you're eager to see get continued, and then you keep seeing that there's a new update, get excited, and then see that it's "just" yet another What If episode, it can invoke feelings of "Oh come on!!"
if you typed save into the search bar you'd find one here #11,277
Sigh. Was hoping for more main game content. Guess I'll be waiting a little longer.
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This is an interesting analogy. Protecting a brand in order to preserve an audience should be a key consideration for creators.
Just speculating here but, perhaps the "non-canon" NTR IS the brand? Hear my out: imagine watching a "canon" version of the film Groundhog Day. You'd miss a lot of funny scenes because they "didn't really happen".
With Power Vacuum one has the option to avoid these scenes, just like one has the option not to play the What Ifs... but like a speed-run of an RPG, they may be missing the point?
Granted, humor is subjective, and the NTR-themed comedy won't appeal to everyone (or even most people). The point is mainly the humiliation of the females, not the cuckolding of the main character. Those with fragile egos and those who self-insert may not be able to understand or appreciate such humor.
But circling back to your point: perhaps those themes ARE the brand, and the option to avoid them is like the option to get a salad at a burger joint, rather than bemoan carnivores for being degenerates or something.
I think it's smarter to cater to your "paying customers" (patrons) than to try and appeal to everyone by being inclusive and bland. Hell, if DC Comics could remember that maybe it wouldn't be a shadow of its former glory. Just a thought.
- May 9, 2018
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That makes me concerned about the future of the game. If the dev can't keep his word on the side stuff, how can we trust that he'll keep his word about stuff only being bad ends in the main game. All the more reason why he won't get more "vanilla" support and the more he does it the more skewed the support will be.
Hopefully at the very start of chapter 10, it went on way too long already. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Hopefully at the very start of chapter 10, it went on way too long already. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
- Nov 10, 2018
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Look with the What if's the dev wanted to give something back to his top patrons outside of the main game and when almost every suggestion is ntr he's not just gonna say "nah gotta appease the pirates".
With the main game he has always been firm on what he wants to do with it and we patrons have zero input on it so i really wouldn't worry about that end.
With the main game he has always been firm on what he wants to do with it and we patrons have zero input on it so i really wouldn't worry about that end.
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It does kind of fly in the face of every argument that I see that if a dev does NTR he is betraying his true fans and will face financial ruin because there aren't enough NTR fans or they don't pay for the content or whatever. The polls don't seem to support that hypothesis.
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Just a reminder as this was added to OP since last What If release:
NOTE: If you complain about the non-canonical NTR or side-story content, expect to get a Warning
NOTE: If you complain about the non-canonical NTR or side-story content, expect to get a Warning
what if 6 feels like it ended just a little too soon, kinda goes against the idea of a non cannon mini series but i hope there is a what if 6 part 2
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The rate at which the main story is going right now, you can be quite optimistic abt that what if 6 part 2... Hell, he might have more chapters of what ifs than the actual game
Ntr isn't for me but I can deal with it sometimes. Ugly bastard ntr; That's a no go for me. And this is one of the ugliest bastards I've seen lol. Still enjoy the game, and still gonna support the developer. Just gonna skip the what if's since the non ntr stuff is still fantastic
- Jan 8, 2018
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90% of his TOP patrons are NTR fans. Reason why he changed the 2:1. I was part of those 10% left so yeah. There is no complaining though. Gotta please the people that pay your lunch. If you don't enjoy what you're paying for, just stop paying, like I did. I degraded to 5$ a month so I could see teasers or post them here if nobody hasn't in awhile.
My only complaint is that hunter is fucking horrendous to look at, otherwise I wouldn't despise the NTR as much.
My only complaint is that hunter is fucking horrendous to look at, otherwise I wouldn't despise the NTR as much.
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quick update since it's been locked. Only new post on Patreon is that there will be no What if until release.
I'll just quote him
understandable. People didn't understand that he was doing these in his free time and it took no dev time away from main development. He could use a break and all were losing is just bonus scenes.
quick update since it's been locked. Only new post on Patreon is that there will be no What if until release.
I'll just quote him
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understandable. People didn't understand that he was doing these in his free time and it took no dev time away from main development. He could use a break and all were losing is just bonus scenes.