Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

And if you're not sure about something it's better to just avoid it all together. You don't need a bunch of secondary or third tagging. It's takes about five mins to look through a thread or read some of the reviews to find out if a game is right for you or not.

This is a luxury enjoyed by fans of genres(tags) overrepresented on this site that not all players have. I see where you're coming from, if you don't like a particularly game tagged with incest, there's a mere 66 more pages of options.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

That's why you can also use the search function to see if certain content is avoidable or not or how much it is. Stop acting like this is rocket science. There's a bunch of stuff you can do to find out more about the game and it's probably a good idea to do that before you try any game anyway.


Sorry, but if you don't like a genre then choose to play a game with heavy content for that genre then complain about it I'm going to condemn you. I don't care at all what genres you like or don't like. I know I don't like what everyone here likes. People have preferences and that's ok. But you have to be smart about how you approach content you do and don't like. The tags aren't just to let people know it has content they like it's also to let people know that a game has content they don't like. It's like the definition or choosing a book by it's cover. The least you could do is read the back of the book to get some idea of what it's about. Next thing you know you accidently bought smut for your kid thinking it was a YA novel.


That's why I said it works better for sandbox games or games where the family characters are more minor. Because the incest themes are easier to write off or ignore if it's something your not into in those games compared this this game where 70% of the content is incest themed. Even the ntr is incest. And if you're not sure about something it's better to just avoid it all together. You don't need a bunch of secondary or third tagging. It's takes about five mins to look through a thread or read some of the reviews to find out if a game is right for you or not.


So is it vapid because it's bad advice or is it vapid because you don't like being called out on intentionally making ill informed decisions? It's like going to an ntr heavy game and complaining when all you had to do is use the search function to see whether the ntr was avoidable or not.

I agree with you that Power Vacuum has heavy incest themes that are pretty obvious despite using the patch or replacing the pronouns, and people who are turned off by incest should probably avoid this game.

But you also commented about incest games in general, while I think there are varying degrees. I've played several games without patching and was either oblivious to the intended relationships or found them very easy to ignore; non-fans of incest can probably enjoy those games without issue.

Basically I'm saying your point may be better received if you kept it to the context of this game.

 

[storm1051787]

I agree with you that Power Vacuum has heavy incest themes that are pretty obvious despite using the patch or replacing the pronouns, and people who are turned off by incest should probably avoid this game.

But you also commented about incest games in general, while I think there are varying degrees. I've played several games without patching and was either oblivious to the intended relationships or found them very easy to ignore; non-fans of incest can probably enjoy those games without issue.

Basically I'm saying your point may be better received if you kept it to the context of this game.

Which is why I said most games not all games and listed tags that typically have less heavy incest themes assosiated with them. And why I suggested using the search function. Frankly if it's a VN type game with incest themes just avoid it. The more prominate the family members are in the story the harder it is to avoid incest themes. I don't really care about my point being better recieved. I just think the other commenters point was dumb. You want to complain that people are annoyed at you choosing to play a game with tags you dislike and then complaining about it. Like I said it's really just you being annoyed at people calling you out for your bad decision making.

 

[storm1051787]

This is a luxury enjoyed by fans of genres(tags) overrepresented on this site that not all players have. I see where you're coming from, if you don't like a particularly game tagged with incest, there's a mere 66 more pages of options.

It is very very very easy to find a game on this site without an incest tag. Some of the most popular games on the site don't have the tag or any incest themes at all. Just like it's also very easy to find games that don't have the ntr tag. This site literally has hundreds of games. I honestly say it's harder to find a good game with a tag you like for most tags than it is to find one without tags you don't like. If a game is heavy with content you like but is also very heavy with unavoidable content you don't like then it's better to avoid the game.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Which is why I said most games not all games and listed tags that typically have less heavy incest themes assosiated with them. And why I suggested using the search function. Frankly if it's a VN type game with incest themes just avoid it. The more prominate the family members are in the story the harder it is to avoid incest themes. I don't really care about my point being better recieved. I just think the other commenters point was dumb. You want to complain that people are annoyed at you choosing to play a game with tags you dislike and then complaining about it. Like I said it's really just you being annoyed at people calling you out for your bad decision making.

I dont disagree sometimes search by tags to exclude is more useful than inclusion.

I'm still always confused at the pushback anyone gives against a better tag weighting system. Why WOULDNT anyone want everyone to be able to find their preferences more easily? This isn't black and white, so stop treating it like some discrete system. I'd wager the average player may have themes they can tolerate in the background, but won't play if they're the main focus of the game.

This lazy rhetoric almost sounds like politics to say "you picked a game that had a tag you disliked then complained", a la "you dont like the way this country/business/group runs, you can just get out!" ignoring the context of those decisions.

Again, I want everyone (including you!) to be able to find the games they like quickly and easily. That seems pretty uncontroversial.

 

[User_123]

Is there a way to get rid of the incest in Chapter 11? Previously (or at least chapter 10) I deleted patch.rpy as people mentioned, but Sterling still calls Ophelia mom. I'm not a fan of incest so if it can't be removed anymore I'll sadly have to drop this game.

Override patch.rpy with the attached one (Works with Chapter 11)

How does it work?

Opening the game with patch.rpy overrides the variable that stores the default-lines with the incest lines, these remain, even when patch.rpy is removed. But you can modify patch.rpy and write the old lines back.

 

[Duke4515]

I see people talking about the bestiality content, but isn't there a choice to not see it. The choice that has (Unleash the beast) gives a clear scope into what will happen if you end up picking that choice. The other choice, ends it after Sterling is done fucking her. Yes, she may let out what she did if you go into that choice but as you find out in that choice she has never been mounted by the dog. Also she was in two scenes prior to this, Catherine's birthday and then when she came back after a while to just get dicked down the first time. She is a toss away character that even after Chapter 11 if she never shows up, no one cares.

Yes, you can avoid her getting fucked by the dog. My issue is that she has already sucked dog dick before that. The choice isn't the issue but her already established history of partaking in it. Again, the choice is fine and I'm ok with it, but that choice doesn't change the fact that she already has a previous sexual history with her dog. That is where my issue lies with the whole thing. I agree she is an unimportant side character but that's why I'm confused why we can't choose to avoid her all together. It's a niche kink that turns me off completely and I have no desire to see her again. If we could avoid her or if she was established as never actually blowing the dog previously, then I would have less issues with her. The dog dildo is still kind of weird tho.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Because it's really not necessary and your suggestion is more complicated that it sounds.
Even some of the tags that have light content is just because it hasn't been fully implimented and is planned later on. Most of what you suggested can be solved simply by using the search function. The real issue is that people seem to be incapable of actually using it. And no it's nothing like politics because this is entertainment and not something that effects your personal lives the majority of the time.


It's like you saw a movie you disliked. Yeah it was bad and you disliked it so you choose to never watch it again and go do something else.
If you want to find out whether content is heavy or light use the search function ask people in the threads, look at reviews. This stuff takes at best a couple of mins, but you people just choose to instantly download instead of doing the bare minimum of research before getting into something. The site could use more tags I agree but having some sort of tag for light or heavy content is pretty useless when that information is usually on the front page.


You people need to do more research before you commit to something. And stop getting mad when people point it out. This is not like who you vote for this is like choosing what movie you want to watch on movie night. If you don't know what that movie on Netflix is about you can use google or watch the trailer.

Interesting point about planned content. I'm genuinely curious how many long-time players of Power Vacuum have been turned off with the gradual addition of more niche content.

Pr0GamerJohnny's point about politics may not have come across, but your all-or-nothing stance sounds exactly like politics (in the US).

Movies are a good example of a tiered approach though. Compare two hypothetical movies rated "PG-13" & "R" (again, in the US). Both films may include violence and profanity, but you can expect these elements will differ in frequency/intensity based on the ratings.

Reviews are also inherently subjective, so the idea of a content rating system for porn games has some merit. Perhaps qualifiers like "brief/occasional" vs "extreme/frequent" could work?

 

[Fayn Arawn]

It's litearlly nothing about politics because because unlike politics you can pick up and leave.

Here's the problem right here, you're taking his comparison literally. Consider re-reading it...

This lazy rhetoric almost sounds like politics to say "you picked a game that had a tag you disliked then complained", a la "you dont like the way this country/business/group runs, you can just get out!" ignoring the context of those decisions.

This is not written literally. "Almost sounds like" is a giveaway. The real-world gravity of porn vs politics is not being discussed. The actual basis of comparison was totally valid: my-way-or-the-highway thinking. That's literally all he was getting at, I don't know why you're reading deeper into it.

This reminds me of back when I was a waiter in high school and people would just pick something based on the title or picture and refuse to read what was actually in the food. Sorry you don't like onions but next time read the menu.

Maybe some people dislike heavy onions, but don't mind light onions?

Comparing it to politics is just stupid to me. The consequences for not liking a game as well as the alternitives and actions you can do to avoid it are all far less drastic than anything political. It's a dumb comparsion.

Again, no one is trying to conflate porn games and politics.

 

[Jamiehjmcw91]

So chapter 12 bad ending what do you think

 

[Jacowboy]

Yes, you can avoid her getting fucked by the dog. My issue is that she has already sucked dog dick before that. The choice isn't the issue but her already established history of partaking in it. Again, the choice is fine and I'm ok with it, but that choice doesn't change the fact that she already has a previous sexual history with her dog. That is where my issue lies with the whole thing. I agree she is an unimportant side character but that's why I'm confused why we can't choose to avoid her all together. It's a niche kink that turns me off completely and I have no desire to see her again. If we could avoid her or if she was established as never actually blowing the dog previously, then I would have less issues with her. The dog dildo is still kind of weird tho.

I mean you do realize PV is a comedic game with a very seriously fucked up sense of humor, right? I understand if the dog thing is upsetting to you, but maybe it's a sign that it's just not for you and you might want to not continue playing this game, 'cause listen, I'm not sure what the dev's plans are, but I'm fairly confident things are gonna get even more fucked up in future updates, considering the escalation the game's had since the begining.

I know it's something that might upset some people, trust me, it's NOT my kink either, AT ALL... but I wouldn't want it to be removed from the game, because THAT is what the game is about... and it fits perfectly with the rest of the insane bat-shit stuff that happens in it. It is what it is, and either you can hang with it or you can't...

 

[thatguyfoot007]

Why do you think Catherine has a bun in the oven? And who is the dad going to be?

Her interrupted sentence where she was saying she hasn't had her period in a while.

The dad... Sterling, through time travel ala Futurama.

 

[Jamiehjmcw91]

Her interrupted sentence where she was saying she hasn't had her period in a while.

The dad... Sterling, through time travel ala Futurama.

Maybe

 

[Vectoro]

The dad... Sterling, through time travel ala Futurama.

Oh, I wish, Time Travel (a confusing double-edged sword it may be) would VASTLY expand the kind of fun that could be had but sadly for all the utter nonsense parts of this game (our MC's change being one), it's still one grounded in reality.

But hey if any of you enterprising mad lads want to pull a Sumatra 3D & make your own time travel spin-off I'd play it.

 

[Jamiehjmcw91]

Oh, I wish, Time Travel (a confusing double-edged sword it may be) would VASTLY expand the kind of fun that could be had but sadly for all the utter nonsense parts of this game (our MC's change being one), it's still one grounded in reality.

But hey if any of you enterprising mad lads want to pull a Sumatra 3D & make your own time travel spin-off I'd play it.

I think the first one with a bun in the oven is Brenna

 

[Vectoro]

I'd prefer that (not a fan of Cathrine) & it MIGHT explain why she was acting extra intense even for her with that whole thing at the hotel. As we know Brenna has major trust & abatement issues so the possibility of her being a single mother (at what 19/20? I'm not sure how old she is off the top of my head beyond College age) & by her brother no less (the source of those issues) may drive her to do drastic things to maintain some kind of stability in her life as to not go through what her mother went through.

Or I could be reading WAY too much into it & am talking out of my ass.

 

[Jamiehjmcw91]

I'd prefer that (not a fan of Cathrine) & it MIGHT explain why she was acting extra intense even for her with that whole thing at the hotel. As we know Brenna has major trust & abatement issues so the possibility of her being a single mother (at what 19/20? I'm not sure how old she is off the top of my head beyond College age) & by her brother no less (the source of those issues) may drive her to do drastic things to maintain some kind of stability in her life as to not go through what her mother went through.

Or I could be reading WAY too much into it & am talking out of my ass.

Yeah Brenna has got to be the first one pregnant from sterling or hunter.

 

[john984]

Yeah Brenna has got to be the first one pregnant from sterling or hunter.

It's impossible for any girl to be pregnant on the main canon route by Hunter or any other guy, because that's where we play and Sterling avoids that to happen, it can only happen on a bad end

 

[mightybored]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cath was pregnant, I remember there being a big deal about her not banging until she went on BC that was just kind of... dropped.

 

[john984]

Someone can help with this? If I become a patreon today it says it will charge me today and then on 1st April. If I cancel it right after signing up, will I have the patreon posts from today till 1st April or today till 23rd April?