Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[themagiman]

That was... short.

 

[BhallThus]

Oh, separate download. So no new content that I care about. Ok. See you when chapter 9 comes out...

 

[Ryo69]

Save game Ch 7

 

[btrain33]

I got super excited as I thought it was the next chapter.

Haha...me too, was hoping for chapter 9.

 

[derof]

ffs

 

[Deleted member 75999]

Massive Reach

This is not an NTR game.
The story is not around Hunter. Hunter is just the antagonist. He sees it as a little game (competition) between him and the MC.
Hunter even helped the MC get rid of the "mom's" potential boyfriend.

And the canon of the game is that Hunter does not get a single female character. His presence is very limited in each update too.
99% of the game is about the MC and his relationship/interactions with the female characters.

Thats why Turning Off the NTR is so easy. Because its meaningless, none canon and it adds nothing to the overall plot.

Know I'm taking the crowd on here (and I ain't even trying to make you mad) but I don't understand the vehemence of the vanilla fans. The plot of this game is literally propelled by Hunter's predations on the female cast. You get it? Nothing in the story moves without Hunter because there would be no central conflict. It'd just be you farting around in another incest game going from scene to scene. Sterling gets closer to the family in due course, sure, but he also has to protect them and confront his own feelings BECAUSE of Hunter.

I'm pretty sure NTR is relegated to bad endings because the plot couldn't continue without it and the butthurt would be enormous if it couldn't be avoided. The guys paying for the fucking game generally like NTR content the best, which is why this "WhatIf" is the way it is in the first place.

I'll never understand why Hunter pisses you guys off so much, stop hopping on Sterling's dick as the "Giga Chad" just because he's your self insert. Really guys: Hunter isn't personally fucking your hoes, okay? V I S U A L N O V E L, ya dig?

 

[RolandG.]

do i see this right, no new content for the main game, only what if expansion ?

 

[hablat]

I downloaded the what if and all I could think while playing was:

We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled!

I will play this, What? Why?, and I will jerk to it to prove a point. But I won't be proud of it.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

Welp there goes my incentive playing this game.

It's not a kinetic novel... Someone must have added it to the tags because of the bonus event that just dropped. game still has choices.

 

[Hairy Pussy Lover]

WHAT IF we skip this and wait chapter 9 ???

 

[AdmiralHipperBG]

So there are still no sex scenes with MC and the busty MILF ?

 

[Naxos]

He cranked it out in like 3 days? with a 5-6 month development time between updates that's not making much of a difference and if you think otherwise your just being unreasonable.

There is going to be vanilla what if's, You gonna complain when they have content you like? i doubt it very much.

Probably about as much as I've complained about this one, which is exactly zero.... but while I'll enjoy the content more, I'll dislike it as much, because it still adds delay (even if 3 days*) to the actual release.

This is not a complaint, or bitching or whining, simply I've never understood why devs do it and people want it... side stories, dlc's stand along etc when the main story is not yet done. Why go for something that delays the main story?

* Which can quickly add up to weeks if these become regular monthly things.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

do i see this right, no new content for the main game, only what if expansion ?

Yes. next update is still a month or 2 away.

 

[Limited20]

Know I'm taking the crowd on here (and I ain't even trying to make you mad) but I don't understand the vehemence of the vanilla fans. The plot of this game is literally propelled by Hunter's predations on the female cast. You get it? Nothing in the story moves without Hunter because there would be no central conflict. It'd just be you farting around in another incest game going from scene to scene. Sterling gets closer to the family in due course, sure, but he also has to protect them and confront his own feelings BECAUSE of Hunter.

I'm pretty sure NTR is relegated to bad endings because the plot couldn't continue without it and the butthurt would be enormous if it couldn't be avoided. The guys paying for the fucking game generally like NTR content the best, which is why this "WhatIf" is the way it is in the first place.

I'll never understand why Hunter pisses you guys off so much, stop hopping on Sterling's dick as the "Giga Chad" just because he's your self insert. Really guys: Hunter isn't personally fucking your hoes, okay? V I S U A L N O V E L, ya dig?

You make it sound like all the supporters of the game are NTR fans lol
This is far from the case. I myself supported the dev last month and I will do so again when chapter9 drops.
And I dislike NTR, cheating, sharing, cucking ,rape etc...
Most people that are not NTR fans, just lurk

Most players are fine with NTR being in games as long as its avoidable and not canon.

Its all preference too. Whether players self insert as MC in games or not, has nothing to do with it.
Games and Novels are ment as escapism. To get away from reality and enjoy pure wish fulfillment fantasy.
Nobody wants to play a game or read a novel and get sad and depressed because of its content.
Just like NSFW/Adult games where the majority dislikes any form of NTR or elements like cheating, sharing, swinging, cucking etc... Novels are the same. If you go to Novel Updates(its similar site to this one) you will see that people are asking for novels with Harem and/or Romance with no NTR.
Like my personal favourite novel Womanizing Mage

And its not self insert all the time too. Some people are just uncomfortable with anything close to NTR even if they do not see themselves as the MC. I have also seen people see the MC's in Adult games as their imaginary friend. You know if your IRL best friend's girlfriend cheats on him and then he is all down and feeling bad, you would feel bad too to some extent.
Different strokes for different folks.

At the end of the day, NTR and all similar elements to it (cheating, raping, blackmail, sharing etc...) are not for everyone.
Some people would not even play games with such elements even if avoidable.
EMPATHY

But you are right. Hunter is the antagonist of the game and is a driving force. He was the one that pushed the MC into becoming a real man and drop the wimp act.
But the entire plot of the game is not around Hunter. Its around the girls and the MC.
Its still not a NTR game tho. Since the NTR in not canon and a Game Over, and a very small part of the game.

And lastly, the WhatIf's are not canon stuff. And there wont be just NTR WhatIf's, there will also be Vanilla WhatIf's.

 

[2524.]

Nothing in the story moves without Hunter because there would be no central conflict. It'd just be you farting around in another incest game going from scene to scene.

I completely ignore the old guy. I play as if I'm trying to seduce the whole family and friends, like any other incest harem high quality game.

The guys paying for the fucking game generally like NTR content the best

73% of statistics are made up.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

Probably about as much as I've complained about this one, which is exactly zero.... but while I'll enjoy the content more, I'll dislike it as much, because it still adds delay (even if 3 days*) to the actual release.

This is not a complaint, or bitching or whining, simply I've never understood why devs do it and people want it... side stories, dlc's stand along etc when the main story is not yet done. Why go for something that delays the main story?

* Which can quickly add up to weeks if these become regular monthly things.

Maybe they want to give a little something to the people supporting them at a higher level. I'm not a dev so I don't know.

 

[PBS666]

Is there a MAC link? or can I just merge the "game" folder into the main game?

This is meant as a standalone game. So better make a duplicate of the main game and replace the game folder inside that duplicate with the game folder from the Windows version.
And it's Mac BTW.

 

[NeroZee]

Probably about as much as I've complained about this one, which is exactly zero.... but while I'll enjoy the content more, I'll dislike it as much, because it still adds delay (even if 3 days*) to the actual release.

This is not a complaint, or bitching or whining, simply I've never understood why devs do it and people want it... side stories, dlc's stand along etc when the main story is not yet done. Why go for something that delays the main story?

* Which can quickly add up to weeks if these become regular monthly things.

I don't like side stories/bonus stories in games most of the time tbh, because all they end up doing is delaying the main game. This is my main problem with a game called Halfway House for instance. Love the game but the Dev is slow as fuck, not because he is milking anyone or because he is lazy, but because it's his first game and the renders in his game are some of the best i have seen, i can only imagine how long it takes him to render each scene, now for someone like him who already takes 4-5-6 months to release a single episode, him doing bonus content after each episode he releases makes no sense to me, from what i hear most of his patreons aren't that happy about it either because it's non-canon stuff as well and it's not even that interesting.

Now this on the other hand if it took Dev only 3 days, hell if he took him a whole week for this, i don't have any problem with it, because WWG is reasonably fast in his updates and his updates are fairly large compared to the vast majority of his competition, so even if it were a scene i entirely despised because at the end of the day he did a poll and his patreons CHOSE what they want. And we can talk about this all day but at the end of the day his patreons are what decide the game will be and i am talking about loyal, high paying patreons for the most part, not on and off again patreons or lurkers like myself.

 

[Badjourasmix]

I haven't checked this thread in a while, is this like a full NTR side story?

 

[bobdillan]

I skipped couple of updates, so that i can play when good Mom content arrives, but if what is writen here is true, then i guess its not worth to play it at all and i should just move away from the game. Oh well thats pitty tbh.

Um, whatever you're smoking... stay off it.

The nrt building off the vanilla would make the vanilla route the core route...
With Ntr off there is no feel of it being an ntr game, sure there is a threat of it and it's stupid though, how the mc is the hero and alpha of the story then in one scene he's suddenly all cuck like, even if it all works in his favour. It doesn't make it feel like a ntr game or anything, just makes those scenes to please the ntr fans weird and cheap and out of place for the rest of the game.

Massive Reach

This is not an NTR game.
The story is not around Hunter. Hunter is just the antagonist. He sees it as a little game (competition) between him and the MC.
Hunter even helped the MC get rid of the "mom's" potential boyfriend.

And the canon of the game is that Hunter does not get a single female character. His presence is very limited in each update too.
99% of the game is about the MC and his relationship/interactions with the female characters.

Thats why Turning Off the NTR is so easy. Because its meaningless, none canon and it adds nothing to the overall plot.

Actually if you played the game and read what Hunter says, you would understand that he is not delusional in thinking he has a chance with the girls lol
Seems he is just having fun. He is even talking/acting like 90's movies villain xd, but sometimes he gets real and down to earth and even gives advice to the MC.
You know that villain monologue about his plans and how he will win, but fails everytime.

Plus the MC becomes a Giga Chad. He gets taller, more buff and gets a bigger dick. And becomes more confident too

(The only thing close to NTR we get in the canon game, is the DnD game around the table with the girls. But thankfully, we can avoid the NTR there too)

Since my post has been deleted I won't delve into this too much, just want to quickly respond to clear up something.

My main point was misunderstood (I believe I worded it poorly).
What I was trying to say was the games core focus story-wise is NTR, and builds off of that. you remove the constant looming threat of NTR, and you remove the core story of the game.
That doesn't mean to imply that the game is mostly about NTR in overall story and content, just cause something is a core focus doesn't mean it is always the focus, only that removing it changes the core of the game entirely.

That is all I will really say, just wanted to clear that up, since previous comment was deleted I will stop here. Also I should probably add, besides the constant looming NTR, I actually don't mind the game, the humor is quite entertaining.
So by no means was I trying to comment on the quality of the game and whether or not it is good or bad.
Although ngl... MCs dick is a bit too big XP