TrapIsJustice

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You do know there is also NTR in the main game?

If people hate NTR so vehemently, they are already playing a game with NTR endings.

The What If's are just side stories.
The thing is the games that have ntr in it, that can be disabled, usually get clearly noted as so, just like it is in this one. I've never seen anyone get mad that a game had ntr in it that can be disabled, however people throw a fit in here everytime they get notified, and open the thread and its the ntr focused* side* game*.
I agree that people shouldn't complain at this point, but claiming to not get it is weird, its pretty obvious why people are upset.
 
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FoolishFool0

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I mean, I have no horse in this race but I feel like between straight up NTR and futanari/trans/intersex women in a vanilla/harem capacity I'll take the second any time, especially since NTR usually does involve some major non-con/dub-con issues on the female character's part, and is speficially done from the POV of the cucked dude rather than, like, normal cheating which is usually more consensual on the woman's part and done through her viewpoint.

Like, it's a woman with a dick, get over it, does anyone here have any idea how popular trans porn alone is, people want to fuck them/want to get fucked by them, lots of fucking people if you look at the charts, the main issue here should be, like, how the self insert character is "cucked" by the woman with a dick instead, which is not dissimilar to him getting cucked by any other character getting a magical mind control dick, Ophelia being the one doing it is only topycal due to her characterization within the game itself and her taunts to Sterling during the unfortunately short lived Femdom section where she claims she would fuck all his fuck buddies if she had a dick just to spite him.

I guess the idea that this is, like, NTR Involving a woman with a dick is what making people feel more conscious, especially given the themes of mind control and the evident "she is far better than him" message, is what's making everyone go spare over it, in which case, again, if you don't like it don't read the what if? It's non canon and it's entirely based on the women being mind controlled too so you can't even say "well but that means they might cheat too" yeah if you had a mind controlling magical dick come on, you can't even go "well, this is happening in some alternate universe tho" in one alternate universe Catherine went mad and set the house on fire, I don't see people going wild over it because it turns her into a serial killer for killing her whole family (which is more of a recurring trait for her since that would be the SECOND bad end/what if where she kills someone).
 
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(That said, can anyone tell me what the "missing" what ifs that never won the polls were? I know of a couple of them like the amazon futa island, anything else?
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to many bugs the main ones are clicking the robot to see whats left gives a error and when you click on the mom outside reading her book gives a error and when brenna has a friend over
 
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FoolishFool0

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I feel the same with pregnancy but I never complained about it. It could be worse, you could be an Anti ntr person having to see 8 what ifs.:ROFLMAO:
7 What Ifs, What If 3 is straight up cult harem ending for the MC, no NTR there, at least not if you identify as Sterling of course, also some of the what ifs that didn't win the polls apparently also didn't have NTR in it, like the "Brenna becomes the Dea del Sesso" one (which would have sent my theory that is dependant on the feet thing to the trash since she didn't develop that mutation) which would have comported a dual Harem with Bisexual Brenna (Bienna?), Sterling as the second in comand, and then the rest of the Harem.

Honestly, the main compliant anti-ntr people should have is how certain what ifs win other what ifs in polls, because apparently NTR people have the money and votes in this conversation with the author, not non-ntr ones.
 
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The thing is the games that have ntr in it, that can be disabled, usually get clearly noted as so, just like it is in this one. I've never seen anyone get mad that a game had ntr in it that can be disabled, however people throw a fit in here everytime they get notified, and open the thread and its the ntr focused* side* game*.
I agree that people shouldn't complain at this point, but claiming to not get it is weird, its pretty obvious why people are upset.
Dude... there were people complaining here because there was NTR on the game even after it was stated to be a fail state AND after a switch to turn it off got implemented so if you've never seen someone get upset over that you either haven't read the whole thread here OR those messages got deleted because complaining about NTR was banned on this thread... because despite being properly warned and shown that you can turn it off they kept complaining.
 

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Honestly, the main compliant anti-ntr people should have is how certain what ifs win other what ifs in polls, because apparently NTR people have the money and votes in this conversation with the author, not non-ntr ones.
This is often the complaint on this forum, but it's taken in stride among the supporters on Patreon & Discord. There are actually many more suggestions that don't even make it to the final poll. Usually people are somewhat disappointed when their suggestions don't win, but are not overly upset about whichever ones do win.
 

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(which would have sent my theory that is dependant on the feet thing to the trash since she didn't develop that mutation)
Not really, the whole dea del sesso is the whole point of the what if so it can fuck with cannon, though the whole theory of the feet seems to be pretty accurate so far or atleast it determines who is dominant or submissive in the family.
 

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This is often the complaint on this forum, but it's taken in stride among the supporters on Patreon & Discord. There are actually many more suggestions that don't even make it to the final poll. Usually people are somewhat disappointed when their suggestions don't win, but are not overly upset about whichever ones do win.
Which is honestly really mature of them, they are supporting the dev financially and they are respecting both his artistic vision as well as the popular vote.

Wait, dumb question, I'm guessing the author picks the 3 what ifs to poll right? Or do they do a bigger poll in-house before releasing a smaller one between the 3 finalists within the discord?.
 

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Wait, dumb question, I'm guessing the author picks the 3 what ifs to poll right? Or do they do a bigger poll in-house before releasing a smaller one between the 3 finalists within the discord?.
The way it works is there's a first round where everyone can make up to 2 suggestions. "Voting" during this phase is done by "liking" the suggestions, so there's no limit on how many you can vote for. After a deadline, the top "liked" suggestion and 2 others selected by the dev become the final poll. This time everyone only gets a single vote.

What's odd is that the final round seems to get way more engagement than the suggestion round, and relatively unpopular suggestions can end up winning.
 
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NachoAndCheez

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Ok so this What if is way better than all the other ones in my opinion but just like all the other ones I'm just gonna read it once and bin it.

BUT what I want to discuss, The what if before the bad ending in which Ophelia got fucked had a line about, well, Ophelia being next on the chopping block and this one had the whole "the whole reason this pill worked on a woman is because she was carrying a babby boy at the time" sooooo... does that mean, creampie on chapter 11?

I mean it could have been as simple as "Holy cow! The ultrascience dick pill also works on women... heh, never really tried to test that." and well we know that Lucia's mom who debuted on what if 3 is going to appear on chapter 11 thanks to the teasers, am I wrong to think this what ifs have one or two things that do end up or tease what's next on the game?

Also cheering for the remaining grandma appearence soon, also also I never want to see Bella doing that face again :cry:
 

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I'd like to see that what if with the dream involving David's Mom & Keira as a possible preview to them maybe showing up in the main game.
 

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I'd like to see that what if with the dream involving David's Mom & Keira as a possible preview to them maybe showing up in the main game.
Too late for Kiera, she is appearing on the next chapter (out in January) but the grandma... PLEASE!!! I need it!!! I wanna see how this dev handles older woman, actual older woman the eldest woman in PV so far isn't even on her 40s and Kumiko doesn't count no matter her actual age.
 
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